Pacquiao 'agrees to Mayweather's demands'

[Pavlik]

FIGHTHYPE \\ WADA: "WADA IS NOT A TESTING AGENCY...USADA IS THE BODY WHICH WOULD BE THE BEST ONE TO USE"

[Majesty]

FIGHTHYPE \\ WADA: "WADA IS NOT A TESTING AGENCY...USADA IS THE BODY WHICH WOULD BE THE BEST ONE TO USE"

Not looking good for Mr Arum, and as always this is all being covered by no one, not ESPN not anything, just mainly us boxing forum heads.

[JazMerkin]

FIGHTHYPE \\ WADA: "WADA IS NOT A TESTING AGENCY...USADA IS THE BODY WHICH WOULD BE THE BEST ONE TO USE"

Well I guess that's that cleared up then

So the USADA excuse is out of the window, what's Bob going to come up with next?

[Hunter]

I take Pacs side on this one. Floyd is the one being the little bitch. Floyd could have gone down as the GOAT if he had just fought Hatton at 140, Margarito at 147, Cotto at 147, Williams at 147 and Pacquaio at 147 before someone else beat them. Floyd would have beaten them all. But he chose to be a bitch. I really dont see how Pac can beat Floyd. But again Floyd is acting like a scared clown. Just fight the guy, you will win! I would hope Pac would beat Floyd but if I had to bet the house it would be on Floyd no question.

[Majesty]

I take Pacs side on this one. Floyd is the one being the little bitch. Floyd could have gone down as the GOAT if he had just fought Hatton at 140, Margarito at 147, Cotto at 147, Williams at 147 and Pacquaio at 147 before someone else beat them. Floyd would have beaten them all. But he chose to be a bitch. I really dont see how Pac can beat Floyd. But again Floyd is acting like a scared clown. Just fight the guy, you will win! I would hope Pac would beat Floyd but if I had to bet the house it would be on Floyd no question.

Yes because Mayweather uses USADA testing to duck opponents, especially hane Mosley and Victor Ortiz, it's not like if Pacquiao's camp didn't accept and then go back on the drug testing that the fight would have happened, I mean look what happened when Mosley and Ortiz accepted those terms.. oh wait!!

[Pavlik]

I take Pacs side on this one. Floyd is the one being the little bitch. Floyd could have gone down as the GOAT if he had just fought Hatton at 140, Margarito at 147, Cotto at 147, Williams at 147 and Pacquaio at 147 before someone else beat them. Floyd would have beaten them all. But he chose to be a bitch. I really dont see how Pac can beat Floyd. But again Floyd is acting like a scared clown. Just fight the guy, you will win! I would hope Pac would beat Floyd but if I had to bet the house it would be on Floyd no question.

Yes because Mayweather uses USADA testing to duck opponents, especially hane Mosley and Victor Ortiz, it's not like if Pacquiao's camp didn't accept and then go back on the drug testing that the fight would have happened, I mean look what happened when Mosley and Ortiz accepted those terms.. oh wait!!

I for one believes that the extra tests is not warranted as of the moment but with all "these" news coming out and Arum and company looking like a fool I really don't know what to say anymore

[TitoFan]

I take Pacs side on this one. Floyd is the one being the little bitch. Floyd could have gone down as the GOAT if he had just fought Hatton at 140, Margarito at 147, Cotto at 147, Williams at 147 and Pacquaio at 147 before someone else beat them. Floyd would have beaten them all. But he chose to be a bitch. I really dont see how Pac can beat Floyd. But again Floyd is acting like a scared clown. Just fight the guy, you will win! I would hope Pac would beat Floyd but if I had to bet the house it would be on Floyd no question.

He does that a lot.

[Nameless]

Well, 2 things:

1) I agree with Conte when he says that athletes should be tested off season too, which means that if Pac and FLoyd are to have a USDA type of testing, it should start before they both go in full speed for the right.
2)Even if Uncle Bob has a problem with Tygart and Floyd's relationship, I fail to see how the "friendship" they might have can discredit the whole agency. As far as I know, Tygart doesn't make/control the tests and neither does he handle the samplers, he's the chief executor and it's Andrew K Morrison who's the director in chief of the testings. I really fail to see where is the problem except if you suspect that the whole analyse department is corrupted under the words of Tygart and personally, I don't buy such crap.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

FIGHTHYPE \\ WADA: "WADA IS NOT A TESTING AGENCY...USADA IS THE BODY WHICH WOULD BE THE BEST ONE TO USE"

Well I guess that's that cleared up then

So the USADA excuse is out of the window, what's Bob going to come up with next?

OMG, I'm now struggling to put this all in perspective. Let me see if this is right:

1. So Bob is saying that HE has a issue with the 'neutrality' of the USADA and suggests that the WADA should be used instead.

2. Then Victor Fuckin Conte pipes up and says that the USADA does not do any type of drug testing themselves, they simply refer the testing out to a WADA accredited laboratory.

3. The USADA media relations manager, Annie Skinner then stated in response: "No other organization in the US does the type of gold standard testing that that we do. Personally, at least, I've never heard of any third party organization that performs the WADA approved standards to the same degree that we do."

Which is only opinion of course and still does not solve the 'neutrality' with regards to the USADA or more specifically Senior Managing Director & General Counsel to USADA,Travis Tygart. But then...

4. Senior Media Relations & Communications Manager to the WADA, Terence O'Rorke unequivocally AGREES with USADA media relations manager Annie Skinner!!!

So where does that leave Bob?

Anyway... Here's a lovely little video to watch while you ponder the wonder...

[fan johnny]

FIGHTHYPE \\ WADA: "WADA IS NOT A TESTING AGENCY...USADA IS THE BODY WHICH WOULD BE THE BEST ONE TO USE"

Well I guess that's that cleared up then

So the USADA excuse is out of the window, what's Bob going to come up with next?

OMG, I'm now struggling to put this all in perspective. Let me see if this is right:

1. So Bob is saying that HE has a issue with the 'neutrality' of the USADA and suggests that the WADA should be used instead.

2. Then Victor Fuckin Conte pipes up and says that the USADA does not do any type of drug testing themselves, they simply refer the testing out to a WADA accredited laboratory.

3. The USADA media relations manager, Annie Skinner then stated in response: "No other organization in the US does the type of gold standard testing that that we do. Personally, at least, I've never heard of any third party organization that performs the WADA approved standards to the same degree that we do."

Which is only opinion of course and still does not solve the 'neutrality' with regards to the USADA or more specifically Senior Managing Director & General Counsel to USADA,Travis Tygart. But then...

4. Senior Media Relations & Communications Manager to the WADA, Terence O'Rorke unequivocally AGREES with USADA media relations manager Annie Skinner!!!

So where does that leave Bob?

Anyway... Here's a lovely little video to watch while you ponder the wonder...

If you have any exposure to what the Hague is, then that is model on how WADA is setup. They are similar to a corporate office that basically doesn't have facilities to do the actual work but train branch offices (like franchises) to do the work. They also certify outside agencies to do the specialty work. (i.e. make approve the labs certifying that they meet the standards testing for PED's)

I didn't think Arum ever mentioned WADA as a administrative testing agency but rather specified an Olympic testing organization in he press release or something like that, but someone pointed out an article by Michael Marley and he quoted Arum as saying WADA would do the testing. I find it hard to believe Arum wouldn't understand out the system is setup and the relationship between WADA and USADA so I'm guessing he was trying to talk down to Marley although it's possible.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I'm already clear on how WADA works (Nice video above) but who or what constitutes an 'Olympic testing organization' besides WADA?
If I google 'olympic anti doping agency', WADDA comes up... So who else exactly does Bob wanna use Who else is there?

How many acronyms can there be! lol

To my very limited knowledge, the USADA are recognised as the most capable organization, or maybe the only organization capable of implementing Olympic testing protocols. Is this correct?
I gotta be honest, I think Bob has fucked up here...

[fan johnny]

I'm already clear on how WADA works but who or what constitutes an 'Olympic testing organization' besides WADA?
If I google 'olympic anti doping agency', WADDA comes up... So who else exactly does Bob wanna use Who else is there?

How many acronyms can there be! lol

To my very limited knowledge, the USADA are recognised as the most capable organization, or maybe the only organization capable of implementing Olympic testing protocols. Is this correct?
I gotta be honest, I think Bob has fucked up here...

(Any anti-doping organization is capable) or can be a signatory of the rules or policies implemented under WADA, but typically countries only use one. In this case, it doesn't matter who you use because what Arum originally said was that the hierarchy would have to come under the Athletic Commission so that there would be accountability should a fighter be found dirty. What is important is the standards WADA uses for administering the testing. Thus you have Floyd's request for OST. The truth is Floyd's style of testing does not follow WADA policy. It is extremely excessive to the point of being harassment by comparison.

Personally I find the whole issue is rather blindingly absurd. Governments make rules for the people that follow the rules. People that don't follow the rules don't care what rules you use because they are not bound by them. So in reality is, it only makes the people under the system jump through more hoops. Nothing gets better in the end and you haven't really prevented any more people from using other means not listed in the rules.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

You have to excuse me for all the questions. I figure you are the authority on the subject and I simply like to question authority but what is 'Floyds style of testing'? I thought he wanted Olympic style testing. Would USADA actually action protocols other than those set by the WADA?

Also, in saying 'harassment by comparison' I assume you are merely referring to random testing as opposed to scheduled testing?