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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunistKevin View Post
    What has khan done to get so many people to hate him. I'm from the us so you really do not hear much about him besides his actual fights.
    He is a fraud!!!
    He is slowly alienating the uk and it's fans.
    His attitude makes froch the best person on earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunistKevin View Post
    What has khan done to get so many people to hate him. I'm from the us so you really do not hear much about him besides his actual fights.
    He has a 'way' about him. A sort of numbskull arrogance. Which is neither here or their imo. I think Khan is okay, I wish him well... usually, just not in this fight. I just want Judah to finally take his chance!
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    Default Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah on HBO - July 23 - who ya got?

    I think it will be a highly competitive boxing match early on, maybe with Judah rocking Khan a couple of times.

    As it progresses though, i see Judah fading ( as always) and Khan slowly breaking him down round after round landing good hard shots. I think Judah will make it to the finish line but Khan will of gave him a good beating along the way.

    Khan by UD, like 9 rounds to 3 or 8 rounds to 4 in favor of Khan.

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    I think Judah's speed and southpaw stance may cause Khan a lot of problems and if he lands a big shot on Khan I think it may be all over. Judah is a much better finisher than Maidana and if Khan gets hurt like he did in that fight then I do believe it will be all over.

    This is the fight I was hoping for at 140 even when Khan was in talks with Bradley and I am delighted it is happening, a real hard one to pick for me but if it goes past the 6th I think Khan is in with a great chance, I expect Judah to be at least ahead at that point though if not in the dressing room celebrating victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    I think Judah's speed and southpaw stance may cause Khan a lot of problems and if he lands a big shot on Khan I think it may be all over. Judah is a much better finisher than Maidana and if Khan gets hurt like he did in that fight then I do believe it will be all over.

    This is the fight I was hoping for at 140 even when Khan was in talks with Bradley and I am delighted it is happening, a real hard one to pick for me but if it goes past the 6th I think Khan is in with a great chance, I expect Judah to be at least ahead at that point though if not in the dressing room celebrating victory.
    I have to disagree on that.

    Judah is a terrible finisher. Look for example in fights against Cotto, Tszyu, etc.

    He was able to hurt those guys and couldn't take advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
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    I think Judah's speed and southpaw stance may cause Khan a lot of problems and if he lands a big shot on Khan I think it may be all over. Judah is a much better finisher than Maidana and if Khan gets hurt like he did in that fight then I do believe it will be all over.

    This is the fight I was hoping for at 140 even when Khan was in talks with Bradley and I am delighted it is happening, a real hard one to pick for me but if it goes past the 6th I think Khan is in with a great chance, I expect Judah to be at least ahead at that point though if not in the dressing room celebrating victory.
    I have to disagree on that.

    Judah is a terrible finisher. Look for example in fights against Cotto, Tszyu, etc.

    He was able to hurt those guys and couldn't take advantage.
    Both of who have good recovery powers and neither were hurt anywhere near like Khan was against Maidana.

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    Default Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah on HBO - July 23 - who ya got?

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
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    I think Judah's speed and southpaw stance may cause Khan a lot of problems and if he lands a big shot on Khan I think it may be all over. Judah is a much better finisher than Maidana and if Khan gets hurt like he did in that fight then I do believe it will be all over.

    This is the fight I was hoping for at 140 even when Khan was in talks with Bradley and I am delighted it is happening, a real hard one to pick for me but if it goes past the 6th I think Khan is in with a great chance, I expect Judah to be at least ahead at that point though if not in the dressing room celebrating victory.
    I have to disagree on that.

    Judah is a terrible finisher. Look for example in fights against Cotto, Tszyu, etc.

    He was able to hurt those guys and couldn't take advantage.
    Both of who have good recovery powers and neither were hurt anywhere near like Khan was against Maidana.
    True but for Khan to get past what Maidana was doing to him in those late rounds shows he to, has good instincts when hurt.

    Maidana is relentless yet Khan got past that and went on to win. Judah just doesn't have that same killer instinct that Maidana has when someone is hurt plus he doesn't have the same power as Maidana.

    I bet Judah stuns Khan with a left hand at some point but i'm also willing to bet, he does nothing about it.

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    Default Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah on HBO - July 23 - who ya got?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    I think it will be a highly competitive boxing match early on, maybe with Judah rocking Khan a couple of times.

    As it progresses though, i see Judah fading ( as always) and Khan slowly breaking him down round after round landing good hard shots. I think Judah will make it to the finish line but Khan will of gave him a good beating along the way.

    Khan by UD, like 9 rounds to 3 or 8 rounds to 4 in favor of Khan.

    Sounds about right, Zab having his moments early, then Khan takes over the fight and wins a UD. (hopefully a clear cut UD or Zab will start bitching)

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    Default Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah on HBO - July 23 - who ya got?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
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    I think Judah's speed and southpaw stance may cause Khan a lot of problems and if he lands a big shot on Khan I think it may be all over. Judah is a much better finisher than Maidana and if Khan gets hurt like he did in that fight then I do believe it will be all over.

    This is the fight I was hoping for at 140 even when Khan was in talks with Bradley and I am delighted it is happening, a real hard one to pick for me but if it goes past the 6th I think Khan is in with a great chance, I expect Judah to be at least ahead at that point though if not in the dressing room celebrating victory.
    I have to disagree on that.

    Judah is a terrible finisher. Look for example in fights against Cotto, Tszyu, etc.

    He was able to hurt those guys and couldn't take advantage.
    Both of who have good recovery powers and neither were hurt anywhere near like Khan was against Maidana.
    True but for Khan to get past what Maidana was doing to him in those late rounds shows he to, has good instincts when hurt.

    Maidana is relentless yet Khan got past that and went on to win. Judah just doesn't have that same killer instinct that Maidana has when someone is hurt plus he doesn't have the same power as Maidana.

    I bet Judah stuns Khan with a left hand at some point but i'm also willing to bet, he does nothing about it.
    Judah has a lot more punches in his armory though where as everything Maidana does is power punch. When Prescott KO'd Khan he used his jab to set up the power punches, he actually almost Knocked him down with a jab. Maidana swung wildly when Khan was hurt, if he had set up his big shots he would have finished him. Judah is a good enough all round boxer to do that if Khan gets hurt.

    If Judah hits Khan with the uppercut he landed on Tszyu in the first round though Khan will not get up never mind stay up like Tszyu did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
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    I think Judah's speed and southpaw stance may cause Khan a lot of problems and if he lands a big shot on Khan I think it may be all over. Judah is a much better finisher than Maidana and if Khan gets hurt like he did in that fight then I do believe it will be all over.

    This is the fight I was hoping for at 140 even when Khan was in talks with Bradley and I am delighted it is happening, a real hard one to pick for me but if it goes past the 6th I think Khan is in with a great chance, I expect Judah to be at least ahead at that point though if not in the dressing room celebrating victory.
    I have to disagree on that.

    Judah is a terrible finisher. Look for example in fights against Cotto, Tszyu, etc.

    He was able to hurt those guys and couldn't take advantage.
    Both of who have good recovery powers and neither were hurt anywhere near like Khan was against Maidana.
    True but for Khan to get past what Maidana was doing to him in those late rounds shows he to, has good instincts when hurt.

    Maidana is relentless yet Khan got past that and went on to win. Judah just doesn't have that same killer instinct that Maidana has when someone is hurt plus he doesn't have the same power as Maidana.

    I bet Judah stuns Khan with a left hand at some point but i'm also willing to bet, he does nothing about it.
    Judah has a lot more punches in his armory though where as everything Maidana does is power punch. When Prescott KO'd Khan he used his jab to set up the power punches, he actually almost Knocked him down with a jab. Maidana swung wildly when Khan was hurt, if he had set up his big shots he would have finished him. Judah is a good enough all round boxer to do that if Khan gets hurt.

    If Judah hits Khan with the uppercut he landed on Tszyu in the first round though Khan will not get up never mind stay up like Tszyu did.
    Judah does have a better array of punches but he isn't as relentless as Maidana nor does he have the power that Maidana has.

    The Prescott fight is a bad example, especially considering since then Khan has improved loads. He defends better, has better footwork, throws better array of punches, etc. I even think Khan moving up in weight improved his punch resistance slightly.

    Judah will catch Khan probably, but your totally overating Judah's power. He has good pop but he's not a one shot ko type of fighter. It doesn't help him either that he only fights for 4 rounds in a fight. He's just not good enough to stop and beat Khan at this point.

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    Default Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah on HBO - July 23 - who ya got?

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    I think Judah's speed and southpaw stance may cause Khan a lot of problems and if he lands a big shot on Khan I think it may be all over. Judah is a much better finisher than Maidana and if Khan gets hurt like he did in that fight then I do believe it will be all over.

    This is the fight I was hoping for at 140 even when Khan was in talks with Bradley and I am delighted it is happening, a real hard one to pick for me but if it goes past the 6th I think Khan is in with a great chance, I expect Judah to be at least ahead at that point though if not in the dressing room celebrating victory.
    I have to disagree on that.

    Judah is a terrible finisher. Look for example in fights against Cotto, Tszyu, etc.

    He was able to hurt those guys and couldn't take advantage.
    Both of who have good recovery powers and neither were hurt anywhere near like Khan was against Maidana.
    True but for Khan to get past what Maidana was doing to him in those late rounds shows he to, has good instincts when hurt.

    Maidana is relentless yet Khan got past that and went on to win. Judah just doesn't have that same killer instinct that Maidana has when someone is hurt plus he doesn't have the same power as Maidana.

    I bet Judah stuns Khan with a left hand at some point but i'm also willing to bet, he does nothing about it.
    Judah has a lot more punches in his armory though where as everything Maidana does is power punch. When Prescott KO'd Khan he used his jab to set up the power punches, he actually almost Knocked him down with a jab. Maidana swung wildly when Khan was hurt, if he had set up his big shots he would have finished him. Judah is a good enough all round boxer to do that if Khan gets hurt.

    If Judah hits Khan with the uppercut he landed on Tszyu in the first round though Khan will not get up never mind stay up like Tszyu did.
    Judah does have a better array of punches but he isn't as relentless as Maidana nor does he have the power that Maidana has.

    The Prescott fight is a bad example, especially considering since then Khan has improved loads. He defends better, has better footwork, throws better array of punches, etc. I even think Khan moving up in weight improved his punch resistance slightly.

    Judah will catch Khan probably, but your totally overating Judah's power. He has good pop but he's not a one shot ko type of fighter. It doesn't help him either that he only fights for 4 rounds in a fight. He's just not good enough to stop and beat Khan at this point.
    Judah definitely has the power to KO Khan. Of that I have no doubt. I'm not saying he will but it would not be a shock at all if he does. Maidana should have set up his big shots instead of just swinging wildly, that is the point I am making, if Judah hurts Khan in that way i'm pretty confident he will not just telegraph wild swinging punches at a staggering target like Maidana did.

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    Default Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah on HBO - July 23 - who ya got?

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    I think Judah's speed and southpaw stance may cause Khan a lot of problems and if he lands a big shot on Khan I think it may be all over. Judah is a much better finisher than Maidana and if Khan gets hurt like he did in that fight then I do believe it will be all over.

    This is the fight I was hoping for at 140 even when Khan was in talks with Bradley and I am delighted it is happening, a real hard one to pick for me but if it goes past the 6th I think Khan is in with a great chance, I expect Judah to be at least ahead at that point though if not in the dressing room celebrating victory.
    I have to disagree on that.

    Judah is a terrible finisher. Look for example in fights against Cotto, Tszyu, etc.

    He was able to hurt those guys and couldn't take advantage.
    Both of who have good recovery powers and neither were hurt anywhere near like Khan was against Maidana.
    True but for Khan to get past what Maidana was doing to him in those late rounds shows he to, has good instincts when hurt.

    Maidana is relentless yet Khan got past that and went on to win. Judah just doesn't have that same killer instinct that Maidana has when someone is hurt plus he doesn't have the same power as Maidana.

    I bet Judah stuns Khan with a left hand at some point but i'm also willing to bet, he does nothing about it.
    Judah has a lot more punches in his armory though where as everything Maidana does is power punch. When Prescott KO'd Khan he used his jab to set up the power punches, he actually almost Knocked him down with a jab. Maidana swung wildly when Khan was hurt, if he had set up his big shots he would have finished him. Judah is a good enough all round boxer to do that if Khan gets hurt.

    If Judah hits Khan with the uppercut he landed on Tszyu in the first round though Khan will not get up never mind stay up like Tszyu did.
    Judah does have a better array of punches but he isn't as relentless as Maidana nor does he have the power that Maidana has.

    The Prescott fight is a bad example, especially considering since then Khan has improved loads. He defends better, has better footwork, throws better array of punches, etc. I even think Khan moving up in weight improved his punch resistance slightly.

    Judah will catch Khan probably, but your totally overating Judah's power. He has good pop but he's not a one shot ko type of fighter. It doesn't help him either that he only fights for 4 rounds in a fight. He's just not good enough to stop and beat Khan at this point.
    Judah definitely has the power to KO Khan. Of that I have no doubt. I'm not saying he will but it would not be a shock at all if he does. Maidana should have set up his big shots instead of just swinging wildly, that is the point I am making, if Judah hurts Khan in that way i'm pretty confident he will not just telegraph wild swinging punches at a staggering target like Maidana did.
    Maidana was tired by those late rounds, he had no choice but to swing wildly especially with time running out.

    Judah always swings recklessly when he has someone hurt and he rarely lands. he's just not a good finisher.

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    I think Judah's speed and southpaw stance may cause Khan a lot of problems and if he lands a big shot on Khan I think it may be all over. Judah is a much better finisher than Maidana and if Khan gets hurt like he did in that fight then I do believe it will be all over.

    This is the fight I was hoping for at 140 even when Khan was in talks with Bradley and I am delighted it is happening, a real hard one to pick for me but if it goes past the 6th I think Khan is in with a great chance, I expect Judah to be at least ahead at that point though if not in the dressing room celebrating victory.
    I have to disagree on that.

    Judah is a terrible finisher. Look for example in fights against Cotto, Tszyu, etc.

    He was able to hurt those guys and couldn't take advantage.
    Both of who have good recovery powers and neither were hurt anywhere near like Khan was against Maidana.
    True but for Khan to get past what Maidana was doing to him in those late rounds shows he to, has good instincts when hurt.

    Maidana is relentless yet Khan got past that and went on to win. Judah just doesn't have that same killer instinct that Maidana has when someone is hurt plus he doesn't have the same power as Maidana.

    I bet Judah stuns Khan with a left hand at some point but i'm also willing to bet, he does nothing about it.
    Judah has a lot more punches in his armory though where as everything Maidana does is power punch. When Prescott KO'd Khan he used his jab to set up the power punches, he actually almost Knocked him down with a jab. Maidana swung wildly when Khan was hurt, if he had set up his big shots he would have finished him. Judah is a good enough all round boxer to do that if Khan gets hurt.

    If Judah hits Khan with the uppercut he landed on Tszyu in the first round though Khan will not get up never mind stay up like Tszyu did.
    Judah does have a better array of punches but he isn't as relentless as Maidana nor does he have the power that Maidana has.

    The Prescott fight is a bad example, especially considering since then Khan has improved loads. He defends better, has better footwork, throws better array of punches, etc. I even think Khan moving up in weight improved his punch resistance slightly.

    Judah will catch Khan probably, but your totally overating Judah's power. He has good pop but he's not a one shot ko type of fighter. It doesn't help him either that he only fights for 4 rounds in a fight. He's just not good enough to stop and beat Khan at this point.
    Judah definitely has the power to KO Khan. Of that I have no doubt. I'm not saying he will but it would not be a shock at all if he does. Maidana should have set up his big shots instead of just swinging wildly, that is the point I am making, if Judah hurts Khan in that way i'm pretty confident he will not just telegraph wild swinging punches at a staggering target like Maidana did.
    Maidana was tired by those late rounds, he had no choice but to swing wildly especially with time running out.

    Judah always swings recklessly when he has someone hurt and he rarely lands. he's just not a good finisher.
    Watch this video and tell me Judah can't finish. And that is against someone with a far far better chin than Khan. He lets his hands go yes but he certainly lands. Maidana struggled to land on a very old washed up Morales, yet he had Khan seriously hurt.



    Also from the first fight watch around 4:44. If that shot hits Khan, it will be lights out. Judah can punch FACT.


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    Default Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah on HBO - July 23 - who ya got?

    I think Khan will win a unanimous decision in a boring fight , I cant stand the man he is coming accross as very greedy and arrogant person with his dealings with SKY for instance , who in there right mind would pay £15 ppv against McCloskey, when Sky wanted to down size the card and pay less money , he threw his dummy out of the pram , and went to Primetime he is being advised very badly IMO , SKY is the only place to be on british TV .

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    Default Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah on HBO - July 23 - who ya got?

    Quote Originally Posted by roberto duran legend View Post
    I think Khan will win a unanimous decision in a boring fight , I cant stand the man he is coming accross as very greedy and arrogant person with his dealings with SKY for instance , who in there right mind would pay £15 ppv against McCloskey, when Sky wanted to down size the card and pay less money , he threw his dummy out of the pram , and went to Primetime he is being advised very badly IMO , SKY is the only place to be on british TV .
    I agree with the second part of your post though I do think Judah still has enough left to give Khan a real test. I don't particuarly like either man but I think the styles may clash well.

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