Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post

I wrote that Wlad talked also, The problem is Haye did alot more talking, alot more.

Haye was the challenger and didn't take it to Wlad surely knowing it would be much harder to outbox Wlad and especially get a decision in Germany.

Wlad could of done more but he wasn't out there to prove he was better than Haye, we already knew he was.

The division isn't poor because of the Klitschkos either. It's poor because most heavyweights today simply suck. They are either unfit or unskilled or both.

I know the Klitschko's aren't necessarily exciting but at least they bring class to the division. You know that when you watch the klitschkos, you know you are going to see world class boxers, not the crap that most of the division has today.
the HW division is extremely dull and yes there isnt that much competition but the main champion is a dull fighter, far too cautious to ever be in a good fight, so i'd say its a mixture of the lack of tallent and the style of the champion

even in a division void of tallent a tyson as champ would be much more entertaining

we wont have any entertainment in the division until the klits retire

and yes haye probably did more talking but wlad did his fair share and also didnt do as he had promised (there was a period of at least a few weeks in the build up where haye said very little and wlad was doing all the trashing)

and i dont agree that because haye was the challenger he had to do more, he just had to do what he felt would win the fight didnt he?
Haye must of known he couldn't outbox Wlad and waiting for one shot is a terrible strategy especially against someone of Wlad's caliber.

Wlad and Vitali are only two fighters, they don't affect how bad the rest of the division is and how bad those fights are.

Yeah there fights are dull sometimes especially Wlad but he has to be cautious because his chin is poor.

Once the Klitschkos do retire, i feel sorry for the heavyweight division because it will only get worse imo.