Barker v Martinez 1st Oct

[boxingbantz]

and it doesnt matter if you or anybody else thinks he should or shouldnt have won a fight the fact is he didnt win those two fights

So applying the same logic then, the fact is, Matthysse lost to Devon Alexander? Or that Lara lost to Paul Williams, yeah?

[erics44]

and it doesnt matter if you or anybody else thinks he should or shouldnt have won a fight the fact is he didnt win those two fights

So applying the same logic then, the fact is, Matthysse lost to Devon Alexander? Or that Lara lost to Paul Williams, yeah?

yes, they should have won, but it would be impossible to start ranking fighters off fights they should or shouldnt have won, the only way to do it soundly is to do it by facts

I'll give you an example, Degale just fought Groves, Groves won, a lot of people think Degale won, and a lot of people who think Groves won thinks Degale is still a better boxer

But no matter what Groves has to be ranked above Degale because he won the fight

[MMASUX]

Martinez within 7, not going to be close at all.