Twin Towers WTC v Grenfell Tower

[Gandalf]

I didn't put you down, miles. With the chance of an education and commitment any literal English speaker could do your job. They might not be as good as you, they might be better, but regardless they could do it.

You have an abnormal predisposition to be upset by people that don't regard you as a unique special snowflake.

True, there are hundreds of thousands of excellent and talented teachers out there and people can dedicate themselves to it if they want to. I do the best I can, but I have my flaws like anyone. You do the best you can.

I am a unique and precious snowflake, Fenster. We all are. That other man is just angry though.

[brocktonblockbust]

I didn't put you down, miles. With the chance of an education and commitment any literal English speaker could do your job. They might not be as good as you, they might be better, but regardless they could do it.

You have an abnormal predisposition to be upset by people that don't regard you as a unique special snowflake.

True, there are hundreds of thousands of excellent and talented teachers out there and people can dedicate themselves to it if they want to. I do the best I can, but I have my flaws like anyone. You do the best you can.

I am a unique and precious snowflake, Fenster. We all are. That other man is just angry though.

I don't think Miles is judging anybody at all I think too much is being read into his comments

[Gandalf]

I just said there are some hoodlums on council estates and I don't want to be around them. Then I defended being a teacher as the skill it is. It seemed to trigger Beanz.

[Beanz]

I just said there are some hoodlums on council estates and I don't want to be around them. Then I defended being a teacher as the skill it is. It seemed to trigger Beanz.

No you didn't. You say things like


"I went for a walk today and no kids hanging around the street corner, no syringes on the floor, no people walking rottweilers, no debris from gang violence. Lovely. Council estates are rough and problematic and the children from poor, broken families do not do as well in life. It's just the reality. I prefer to be around peace, civility, and people who don't call other people a cunt."


and then you act surprised ?


You said the same thing about re-homing the families affected by the fire. You would not want them in your block.

and I am the judgmental one ?

pair of jokers

[brocktonblockbust]

I just said there are some hoodlums on council estates and I don't want to be around them. Then I defended being a teacher as the skill it is. It seemed to trigger Beanz.

Beanz's likes to piss on other people's chips. That is his job in life to bring everybody down. If you say something good about yourself he has to go on his soapbox and get on his high horse and say how that is arrogant or self-aggrandizing. You just can't make this stuff up. He must have been constantly put down by his parents when he was being raised and now he is projecting that on to everybody else.

[Beanz]

I just said there are some hoodlums on council estates and I don't want to be around them. Then I defended being a teacher as the skill it is. It seemed to trigger Beanz.

Ben's likes to piss on other people's chips. That is his job in life to bring everybody down. If you say something good about yourself he has to go on his soapbox and get on his high horse and say how that is arrogant or self-aggrandizing. You just can't make this stuff up. He must have been constantly put down by his parents when he was being raised and now he is projecting that on to everybody else

Cut the amateur psychology bullshit and think about what you post. Nobody including me has a problem with people saying something good about themselves. Slagging off people purely because they are poor or live in a tower block etc is something entirely different. You both do it all the time. Dismiss whole swathes of people because in Miles case he actually thinks he is better, and in your case because you think it's what people want to hear. I am not triggered I am expressing my opinion and you can't handle anything but smoke being blown up your arse. It would be a bit weird if I had more sympathy for someone in a luxury apartment being allergic to homeless people being rehoused then fire victims, but that is you and Miles position not mine.

Your contribution to the entire forum is just the fuck everyone off for the sake of it like a three year old, it's hardly constructive.

[brocktonblockbust]

What have you got against free speech?

[Beanz]

You are quite welcome, Batman. Even if you are from a council estate, I am more than happy to discuss this with you as there are worthy people from council estates too. You and I and others too. You are into books, so may I recommend Lightbown and Spada's "How languages are learned". It is an excellent appraisal of both 1st and 2nd language aquisition. For Beanz I recommend "Politeness: Some universals in language usage". I feel it may come in useful when it comes to his online posting style.

Fuck you. I am quite happy to not be considered worthy or polite if that is how shitty your value system is. The funny thing is real academics would laugh in your face.

The way you speak to people on this forum is appalling. Miles is correct about you you are an extremely unhappy person yet you go around telling me and miles that we are the ones who are unhappy when it is you. It is clear you're a very intellectual person I have always thought that from the very beginning I won't speak for miles but I'm sure he also thinks that. But it takes more than intellect beans. He's right about your style you're so abrasive and insulting to people it was my original problem with you back in 2013 when I email the mod one time and asked you to be warned or even banned because of how rude and abrasive you are being. It has been the case with you ever since that despite your high level of intellect which nobody can deny and your excellent sense of humor you also are such so incredibly and personally judgemental and insulting at times and that is the style that miles is referring to. Please don't take it like anyone is insulting your intelligence which is obviously extremely high and your wit and creativity which is also better than probably anybody else is here. But you just come out and say such personally judgemental moralistic and insulting things to people that that is what pisses everybody off

This is your kill free speech bollocks again. If you want beige prose you are in the wrong place. How would you possibly know anything about me if all I do is piss on other people's chips? The forum is littered with you and Miles opinions on everything and 99% is moaning or childish crap designed to get a reaction. Very little real content at all. I am not an intellectual I am an ordinary bloke with quite an average IQ who loves boxing. It's what brought me here and why I stay. it used to have loads of other fun stuff too but most of the people that posted back then have gone. How many of them did you ask to get banned? There are many, many people who post in the boxing sections but nowhere else here and I can't say I blame them. It's now like the worst kind of cliquey club where if you don't know the posters or refuse to toe the line you are made to feel like the freak. Fuck being one of you lot. Most of you don't even watch boxing for fucks sake.

I don't cut my arms, i don't wait hanging on for the next terrorist atrocity so that I can gleefully say "I told you so" or try to be more authentic than everyone else or own four smoking jackets for Christ's sake. You lot are fucking mental and I am not projecting anything.

[brocktonblockbust]

How f****** very dare you make fun of people who own for smoking jackets. Now you are going to tell people what they can have in their wardrobe?

[Gandalf]

I just said there are some hoodlums on council estates and I don't want to be around them. Then I defended being a teacher as the skill it is. It seemed to trigger Beanz.

No you didn't. You say things like


"I went for a walk today and no kids hanging around the street corner, no syringes on the floor, no people walking rottweilers, no debris from gang violence. Lovely. Council estates are rough and problematic and the children from poor, broken families do not do as well in life. It's just the reality. I prefer to be around peace, civility, and people who don't call other people a cunt."


and then you act surprised ?


You said the same thing about re-homing the families affected by the fire. You would not want them in your block.

and I am the judgmental one ?

pair of jokers

Earlier in the thread I said I wouldnt want to be around dodgy scallies in my building. Never once did I mention the people from Grenfell. It's fake information meant to make me look bad but it did not happen.

You are manipulating information. You are trolling me.

[El Kabong]

You are quite welcome, Batman. Even if you are from a council estate, I am more than happy to discuss this with you as there are worthy people from council estates too. You and I and others too. You are into books, so may I recommend Lightbown and Spada's "How languages are learned". It is an excellent appraisal of both 1st and 2nd language aquisition. For Beanz I recommend "Politeness: Some universals in language usage". I feel it may come in useful when it comes to his online posting style.

Fuck you. I am quite happy to not be considered worthy or polite if that is how shitty your value system is. The funny thing is real academics would laugh in your face.

The way you speak to people on this forum is appalling. Miles is correct about you you are an extremely unhappy person yet you go around telling me and miles that we are the ones who are unhappy when it is you. It is clear you're a very intellectual person I have always thought that from the very beginning I won't speak for miles but I'm sure he also thinks that. But it takes more than intellect beans. He's right about your style you're so abrasive and insulting to people it was my original problem with you back in 2013 when I email the mod one time and asked you to be warned or even banned because of how rude and abrasive you are being. It has been the case with you ever since that despite your high level of intellect which nobody can deny and your excellent sense of humor you also are such so incredibly and personally judgemental and insulting at times and that is the style that miles is referring to. Please don't take it like anyone is insulting your intelligence which is obviously extremely high and your wit and creativity which is also better than probably anybody else is here. But you just come out and say such personally judgemental moralistic and insulting things to people that that is what pisses everybody off

This is your kill free speech bollocks again. If you want beige prose you are in the wrong place. How would you possibly know anything about me if all I do is piss on other people's chips? The forum is littered with you and Miles opinions on everything and 99% is moaning or childish crap designed to get a reaction. Very little real content at all. I am not an intellectual I am an ordinary bloke with quite an average IQ who loves boxing. It's what brought me here and why I stay. it used to have loads of other fun stuff too but most of the people that posted back then have gone. How many of them did you ask to get banned? There are many, many people who post in the boxing sections but nowhere else here and I can't say I blame them. It's now like the worst kind of cliquey club where if you don't know the posters or refuse to toe the line you are made to feel like the freak. Fuck being one of you lot. Most of you don't even watch boxing for fucks sake.

I don't cut my arms, i don't wait hanging on for the next terrorist atrocity so that I can gleefully say "I told you so" or try to be more authentic than everyone else or own four smoking jackets for Christ's sake. You lot are fucking mental and I am not projecting anything.

....you have something to say about my smoking jackets that you'd like to get off your chest?

[El Kabong]

I've tried to steer clear of insults of ANY kind towards Beanz lately....yet I find if I make the personal decision NOT to insult or call names there's no reciprocity. I'm not going to complain about it(the comment about it was just that a COMMENT, a statement of fact) , I'd just say that if it's your personal choice to go the insult route then what you get in response to what you post isn't anyone's fault but your own.

[brocktonblockbust]

No but then he says YOURE restricting free speech.

[Batman]

You are quite welcome, Batman. Even if you are from a council estate, I am more than happy to discuss this with you as there are worthy people from council estates too. You and I and others too. You are into books, so may I recommend Lightbown and Spada's "How languages are learned". It is an excellent appraisal of both 1st and 2nd language aquisition. For Beanz I recommend "Politeness: Some universals in language usage". I feel it may come in useful when it comes to his online posting style.

Fuck you. I am quite happy to not be considered worthy or polite if that is how shitty your value system is. The funny thing is real academics would laugh in your face.

The way you speak to people on this forum is appalling. Miles is correct about you you are an extremely unhappy person yet you go around telling me and miles that we are the ones who are unhappy when it is you. It is clear you're a very intellectual person I have always thought that from the very beginning I won't speak for miles but I'm sure he also thinks that. But it takes more than intellect beans. He's right about your style you're so abrasive and insulting to people it was my original problem with you back in 2013 when I email the mod one time and asked you to be warned or even banned because of how rude and abrasive you are being. It has been the case with you ever since that despite your high level of intellect which nobody can deny and your excellent sense of humor you also are such so incredibly and personally judgemental and insulting at times and that is the style that miles is referring to. Please don't take it like anyone is insulting your intelligence which is obviously extremely high and your wit and creativity which is also better than probably anybody else is here. But you just come out and say such personally judgemental moralistic and insulting things to people that that is what pisses everybody off

This is your kill free speech bollocks again. If you want beige prose you are in the wrong place. How would you possibly know anything about me if all I do is piss on other people's chips? The forum is littered with you and Miles opinions on everything and 99% is moaning or childish crap designed to get a reaction. Very little real content at all. I am not an intellectual I am an ordinary bloke with quite an average IQ who loves boxing. It's what brought me here and why I stay. it used to have loads of other fun stuff too but most of the people that posted back then have gone. How many of them did you ask to get banned? There are many, many people who post in the boxing sections but nowhere else here and I can't say I blame them. It's now like the worst kind of cliquey club where if you don't know the posters or refuse to toe the line you are made to feel like the freak. Fuck being one of you lot. Most of you don't even watch boxing for fucks sake.

I don't cut my arms, i don't wait hanging on for the next terrorist atrocity so that I can gleefully say "I told you so" or try to be more authentic than everyone else or own four smoking jackets for Christ's sake. You lot are fucking mental and I am not projecting anything.

....you have something to say about my smoking jackets that you'd like to get off your chest?

[El Kabong]

both of mine are MUCH MUCH better than that