Old Super-Middleweight/Middleweight/Light Middleweight Threads

[killersheep]

Should Pavlik/Martinez qualify for the Saddoboxing Middleweight Championship?

Yes (3 votes) : JazMerkin, Killersheep, markb018
No (1 vote) : Violent Demise

The fight qualifies as a Title fight by a vote of 3-1

[killersheep]

Do we reverify these pool members?

David Lopez - Boxer hasn't fought since 4/10/09 where he won against Ossie Duran both came in a 1/2 pound over the limit, before that Lopez hasn't fought at 154 since 2001. His next scheduled fight is at 160.

Sergio Mora - Boxer his last fight was at middleweight (actually over limit) on 4/3/10. His last 154 fight was a loss to Vernon Forrest (RIP) on 9/13/08

[killersheep]

Should David Lopez and Sergio Mora remain in the pool at 154?

Verify Lopez, Verify Mora
(0 votes) : N/A

Drop Lopez, Verify Mora
(0 votes) : N/A

Verify Lopez, Drop Lopez
(0 votes) : N/A

Drop Lopez, Drop Mora
(7 votes) : Cleon, Galaxy, JazMerkin (+1), Killersheep, markb018, TigerFan

[killersheep]

Ok here are the potential candidates.

The winner of Antonio Margarito - Boxer vs. Roberto Garcia - Boxer on 5/8/10. - Margarito is back from his suspension and moves up to Light Middle to try to get his career back on track. Garcia is trying to get a marquee win.

Joe Greene - Boxer - 2004 National Golden Gloves champ, only 24 years old, been absolutely dominant where he should be dominant, doesn't have any big names on his resume, but the potential is there.

Erislandy Lara - Boxer - Cuban National Champ 2000, 2005, 2006 and 2007, Gold Medalist Central American Games 2006. Every one of his fights has been televised he is moving up to fighters with recognizable names as a last stop before going for some titles.

The winner of Shawn Porter - Boxer vs. Raul Pinzon - Boxer - Porter was the 2007 National Golden Gloves champ, a 2008 Olympic alternate. Pinzon is a typical Colombian power punching specialist with only one of his victories going the distance (94% of victories coming by way of stoppage.

Nobuhiro Ishida - Boxer - Ishida is currently holding the mandatory (interim) status for the WBA (Yuri Foreman's title), he has also in the past held the Japanese and OBPF Light Middleweight titles.

[JazMerkin]

Garcia hasn't done shit to earn a nomination for me & Margarito will only get credit from me when he beats an opponent who might at least make me think some of what he used to do was sans plaster.

Greene gets in on promise, I think he has what it takes to be a threat here.

Lara has more than earnt the spot with wins over Brewster & Perez.

I'm not all over Porter like many are because he's a Manny sparring partner, but Pinzon is at least a slight step up & was involved in what might have been FOTY last year if anyone had seen it with Torres.

Ishida hasn't done enough to be in the pool for me regardless of being a mandatory.

[killersheep]

Which of the following nominees enter the pool at 154?

The winner of Margarito/Garcia
Yes (2 votes) : Killersheep, TigerFan
No (5 votes) : Cleon, Galaxy, JazMerkin (+1), markb018

Joe Greene
Yes (3 votes) : Cleon, JazMerkin (+1)
No (4 votes) : Galaxy, Killersheep, markb018, TigerFan

Erislandy Lara
Yes (7 votes) : Cleon, Galaxy, JazMerkin (+1), Killersheep, markb018, TigerFan
No (0 votes) : N/A

Porter/Pinzon winner
Yes (3 votes) : Cleon, JazMerkin (+1)
No (4 votes) : Galaxy, Killersheep, markb018, TigerFan

Nobuhiro Ishida
Yes (2 votes) : Killersheep, markb018
No (5 votes) : Cleon, Galaxy, JazMerkin (+1), TigerFan


Only Erislandy Lara enters the 154 pool.

[killersheep]

Stieglitz (#7) won a UD over Eduard Gutknecht - Boxer
Eduard is a pool member, should we keep him in the pool or drop him to unranked status?

Here's an account of the fight... Boxing: Stieglitz retains WBO title

[killersheep]

Does Gutknecht remain in the pool after losing to Robert Stieglitz

Yes (4 votes) : Cleon, Galaxy, Killersheep, TigerFan

No (1 vote) : JazMerkin

Gutknechy remains in the pool by a vote of 4-1

[killersheep]

After a clear decision loss to our new title holder Sergio Martinez how far should Pavlik drop?

[ICB]

After a clear decision loss to our new title holder Sergio Martinez how far should Pavlik drop?

I think he keeps his spot personally, i can't imagine him being below fighters like Sturm, Slyvester.

[killersheep]

I say drop him two spots, he was soundly beaten, Sturm and Sylvester have both been on better win streaks. Sturm has not been as active because of managerial issues, if he doesn't fight before July he may drop to the pool.
The other issue is that Pavlik is not likely to fight at 160 for his next fight.

[Nameless]

2 spots seem quite fair in the circumstances.

[markb018]

I have Pavlik staying at #1, what about Pwill's stock, does that rise because he "beat" martinez??

[Galaxy]

Cory Spinks has now been in active for a year. Should he remain rated or be moved to the pool?

Cory Spinks - Boxer

[Galaxy]

Now that Sergio Martinez is the World Champion at 160 & he has not fought at this weight in over a year; should he remain in the Jr. Middleweight ratings?

Sergio Gabriel Martinez - Boxer