Looking back at old controversial fights.... (Updated) Jones vs. Tarver I

[TyBuff]

Thought this fight could have gone either way, depending on what a judge was looking for. I dont consider this a controversy since the fight was very close either fighter could have won or it could have been a draw. Mistakes were made by both fighters, Hopkins got going to late and Taylor spent to much energy in the first few rounds.

[Majesty]

The controversy is Taylor getting the 12th round and costing Hopkins a draw.

[smashup]

Wouldn't it have actually have had to have been a fight to qualify for this thread?

No offence intended as i personally think this thread theme is quality but this er fight was a f*cking joke and a disgrace to the fight game.

[TyBuff]

The controversy is Taylor getting the 12th round and costing Hopkins a draw.

There was no contraversy about that, that was an out right robbery!

[GAME]

| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | total
Taylor | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 9 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 115
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Hopkins| 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 113

What this fight proved was Hopkins had the beating of Taylor who tired badly late on , but didnt get work early enough .Taylor was fired up at the start and wouldnt let B-hop get away with anything . A right hand that brushed over the top of Nards head causing him to lose his balance could have been a knockdown if the ropes werent there . Around the 9th round Bernard started to realise his right hand was working for him . Taylor would normally answer every advance with a flurry of his own but late on he was very disorganised and uncomfortable . Nard really owned him towards the end and I felt got the better of him but on my scorecard Taylor deserved the nod .

[BIG H]

| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | total
Taylor | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 9 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 115
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Hopkins| 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 113

What this fight proved was Hopkins had the beating of Taylor who tired badly late on , but didnt get work early enough .Taylor was fired up at the start and wouldnt let B-hop get away with anything . A right hand that brushed over the top of Nards head causing him to lose his balance could have been a knockdown if the ropes werent there . Around the 9th round Bernard started to realise his right hand was working for him . Taylor would normally answer every advance with a flurry of his own but late on he was very disorganised and uncomfortable . Nard really owned him towards the end and I felt got the better of him but on my scorecard Taylor deserved the nod .

Can't remember my exact RBR card, but pretty sure it is the same as yours - The fight was there for Hopkins to win and the rounds he did win, he won clearly, but the nature of the scoring system still allowed Taylor to steal rounds and win more rounds.

[SweetPea]

When I watched this fight a few days ago, it was the first time I had seen it since I watched it live on PPV. My memory of the fight was always that Hopkins dominated the last 4 rounds, and that Taylor was really just trying to hang on and make it to the finish line.
I was surprised when I watched it again, that Hopkins only really dominated the 10th and 11th. I thought he won the 9th and 12th as well, but not by that large a margin.

[ICB]

rd1 taylor 10-9
rd2 taylor 10-9
rd3 taylor 10-9
rd4 taylor 10-9
rd5 hopkins 10-9
rd6 taylor 10-9
rd7 taylor 10-9
rd8 taylor 10-9
rd9 hopkins 10-9
rd10 hopkins 10-9
rd11 hopkins 10-9
rd12 hopkins 10-9

taylor won all early rounds he was outlanding hopkins he was aggressor and he was 7 rounds to 1 up on my card and hopkins easily won last 4 rounds to make it 7 rounds to 5 in favour of taylor i think best hopkins could of done was draw i was trying giving hopkins a round to try and be fair to both fighters in first 8 rounds only one i give him was 5 th it was so hard to even give hopkins a round in early going because hopkins was only averaging 17 punches thrown each round and was hardly doing anything taylor was aggressor and was outlanding him and i think hopkins left it too late anyway my final totals

115 jermanin taylor 113 bernard hopkins

[amat]

I wish I could have found my round by round for this fight. It was the first one I ever did. It was also my first post on here but the crash took it away...Damn. I've been wanting to get in on this, I had a huge round by round done on Barrera - Morales 1 but I lost it when my computer crashed Then I gave up hope. CC SP. Really mad I haven't been in on this so far. But I did find my scorecard for this fight.

| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | total
Taylor | 10| 10 |10 | 10| 9 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 113
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Hopkins| 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 9 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10| 10|10 | 115

Originally I scored the 12th round a draw just like one of the judges. Not really sure why. I thought the only real swing round in the fight was round 7, a round that I gave to Hopkins but could easily have been given to Taylor. Hopkins has no one to blame but himself for not getting the decision though. He gave the fight away by not getting going til round 7. I really like the thread though. I just wish I had more of the fights on the comp. Not a whole lot of fights I have go to th

[Lords Gym]

Round 01- Taylor
Round 02- Taylor
Round 03- Taylor
Round 04- Taylor
Round 05- Hopkins
Round 06- Taylor
Round 07- Taylor
Round 08- Taylor
Round 09- Hopkins
Round 10- Hopkins
Round 11- Hopkins
Round 12- Hopkins

Score
Hopkins 113
Taylor 115

[SweetPea]

I wish I could have found my round by round for this fight. It was the first one I ever did. It was also my first post on here but the crash took it away...Damn. I've been wanting to get in on this, I had a huge round by round done on Barrera - Morales 1 but I lost it when my computer crashed Then I gave up hope. CC SP. Really mad I haven't been in on this so far. But I did find my scorecard for this fight.

| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | total
Taylor | 10| 10 |10 | 10| 9 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 113
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Hopkins| 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 9 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10| 10|10 | 115

Originally I scored the 12th round a draw just like one of the judges. Not really sure why. I thought the only real swing round in the fight was round 7, a round that I gave to Hopkins but could easily have been given to Taylor. Hopkins has no one to blame but himself for not getting the decision though. He gave the fight away by not getting going til round 7. I really like the thread though. I just wish I had more of the fights on the comp. Not a whole lot of fights I have go to th

CC, quality post, good to have you as part of the thread. If you want, shoot me a message with the fights you have scored or have on your computer, and I'll try to make a point to pick one of them if possible.

[Beanflicker]

I had it 115-113 for Taylor like the posters above... Hopkins had the tools to win that fight IMO, he just started way too late.

[Lords Gym]

I had it 115-113 for Taylor like the posters above... Hopkins had the tools to win that fight IMO, he just started way too late.

#9 I agree with you

[Majesty]

Round 01- Taylor
Round 02- Taylor
Round 03- Taylor
Round 04- Hopkins
Round 05- Hopkins
Round 06- Taylor
Round 07- Taylor
Round 08- Hopkins
Round 09- Hopkins
Round 10- Hopkins
Round 11- Hopkins
Round 12- Hopkins

115-113 Hopkins

[uwey]

Bernard sucker punched me in the streets of philly in 1984. I want my rematch. He knows who i am.