Old Welterweight/Light-Welterweight/Lightweight threads

[killersheep]

I say yes, it's amazing how much talent piles up in this division.

[The Fightfan]

Yes an exceptional performance on Saturday and a few months back when he school Bruseles. HE certainly should break into the pool

[killersheep]

Should Mike Jones enter the welterweight pool?

Yes (7 votes) : Cleon, Galaxy, JazMerkin, Killersheep, markb018, Tigerfan, Violent Demise
No (0 votes) : N/A

Mike Jones enters the pool by a vote of 7-0

[killersheep]

Who fills the #10 spot at Welter?

Aydin/Collazo winner (6 votes) : Cleon, Galaxy, JazMerkin, Killersheep, markb018, TigerFan

No others received votes.........

[killersheep]

Do we verify Margarito and Kirpa to stay in the 147 pool?

Yes to both (0 votes) : N/A

Yes to Kirpa, No to Margarito (0 votes) : N/A

No to Kirpa, Yes to Margarito (0 votes) : N/A

No to both (6 votes) : Cleon, Galaxy, JazMerkin, Killersheep, markb018, TigerFan

Both are dropped by a vote of 6-0-0-0

[killersheep]

Who should we put in as the #10 rank at 140?

Nate Campbell - Boxer vs. Victor Ortiz - Boxer

Herman Ngoudjo - Boxer vs. Julio Diaz - Boxer

note all other pool members have lost their last bouts at 140 and therefore do not qualify.

[Galaxy]

Easy choice here! Should be a great fight...

[killersheep]

Edwin Valero has taken his own life, which vacates his rank moving all those below him up, this also opens the #9 spot which triggers an immediate vote.

There are two fights involving pool members that qualify to fill the spot

Urbano Antillon - Boxer vs. Brandon Rios - Boxer

and

Martin Honorio - Boxer vs. Argenis Mendez - Boxer

or we could leave it vacant.

[JazMerkin]

By a vote of 6-0, the Nate Campbell-Victor Ortiz fight will be for 10th spot

[JazMerkin]

Antillon-Rios would fill the void, however, that fight has fallen apart making the result void.

[JazMerkin]

Following his wide UD loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr, how far does Sugar Shane fall?

[JazMerkin]

Due to Mayweather becoming champion, we currently have two vacancies at the weight, and I'm going to trial a new system for filling them. Our previous vacancy filler fell apart because Luis Collazo pulled out of his fight with Selcuk Aydin arguing he couldn't make the weight & wasn't happy with payment. For this reason, he will not be available as an option.

So, in this method you will select TWO options and only two, including a vacancy option. If you select just one or more than two, I will have to PM you to clarify your vote, or ignore it if you don't confirm. This hopefully means we can focus on filling a division's vacancies at once rather than creating multiple threads.

Anyway, here are your options

Selcuk Aydin - Boxer - Has a fight scheduled for the start of June, there is talk of Carlos Abregu stepping in or Rafal Jackiewicz. However, due to the recent pull-out of Collazo the opponent remains TBA.

Jesus Soto Karass - Boxer - Fights the capable Gabriel Martinez at the end of the month. Martinez has only lost a late retirement to Saul Alvarez and a draw with former amateur standout Euri Gonzalez. Soto-Karass is coming off a close TD loss to Alfonso Gomez.

Freddy Hernandez - Boxer - The exciting Mexican has only lost a close SD to perennial contender, Golden Johnson, whilst in his last fight he scored a brutal KO over former World Champion DeMarcus Corley.

Luis Carlos Abregu - Boxer - The Argentine is coming off an exciting win over Richard Gutierrez, and was scheduled to fight Light-Welterweight #1 Timothy Bradley until Bradley chose to fight Maidana instead.

Saul Alvarez - Boxer - El Canelo is considered one of the most exciting young fighters in boxing and he showed it in last night's thrilling win over Jose Cotto. Although this fight was marginally over the limit at a 150lb catchweight, 147 looks to be his future home and he promises big things in the division.

Alfonso Gomez - Boxer - The former Contender star is coming off impressive back to back wins over Soto-Karass and future Hall of Famer, Jose Luis Castillo. However, there are question marks over the strength of both wins as the Soto-Karass was on a bad cut in a fight he looked to be fading in, whilst Castillo is not even a shadow of his former self.

Rafal Jackiewicz - Boxer - The Polish fighter had a difficult start to his career as an opponent for better opposition, although lately he has been on a good run. However, this masks the fact that most consider his recent wins over Jackson Bonsu, Jan Zaveck and Delvin Rodriguez to be full-on robberies of the highest order.

Delvin Rodriguez - Boxer - Rodriguez has never had the best of luck on the cards, with only Jesse Feliciano being able to say he definitively defeated him, however following his one-sided win over Mighty Mike, he has hopes of another title shot if he keeps this up.

Mike Jones - Boxer - Another exciting young prospect, the exciting Philly fighter has definitely won acclaim recently fighting on Top Rank cards. However, his opposition has yet to really step up aside from his win over Bruseles. There is talk of him fighting fellow prospect Antwone Smith later in the year on HBO, however, that may be put off for the possibilities it offers further down the line.

Anyway, there's your options, remember ONLY VOTE FOR TWO. You can only vote once, so don't do one then think you can do the other later.

The top two voted will go in.

[JazMerkin]

We will fill these in the same way have filled those at Welterweight, using a multi-vote system & using ONLY TWO votes. I am also going to add two options who have good history at the weight and fights arranged against a pool member or ranked fighter. Your options are

Joan Guzman - Boxer - Fights Joel Casamayor on the 31st July, although given his massive miss of the weight last time it is unclear whether this is at 140/147. He's still an option, but given his weak history at making the weight not a reliable one.

Anthony Peterson - Boxer - It seems Peterson has been a prospect way too long, however, he's been close to arranging a fight with Humberto Soto, should Soto get past his first defence.

Urbano Antillon - Boxer - Antillon has come back from his shock KO defeat to Acosta, and although injury to Brandon Rios curtailed their fight, it's likely they will fight on a later Latin Fury card, most likely in July.

Jorge Rodrigo Barrios - Boxer - Barrios is still an option, however given that he is currently awaiting trial for killing a young mother by dangerous/drunk driving, it's unlikely we will ever see him again.

Martin Honorio - Boxer - Coming off a nice winning streak since losing to Robert Guerrero, but his last and next fight have been at Super-Featherweight

Juan Diaz - Boxer - Although recently removed on the assumption he would be fighting at 140, Diaz is a solid fighter and is scheduled to face Marquez on July 31st in a rematch of their FOTY last year. Although he's coming off a loss, he is our former #2.

Brandon Rios - Boxer - The Oxnard prospect was slated to fight Antillon till injury forced a delay, however, he has started stepping up his opposition and looks an exciting one for the future. A win over Antillon would likely see him in world title contention.

[JazMerkin]

Anthony Peterson enters in the #9 spot, Juan Diaz comes in at #10.

[JazMerkin]

Saul Alvarez comes in at #9, whilst Mike Jones enters at #10. However, should the Selcuk Aydin/Luis Collazo fight somehow come to fruition (as I've heard rumours of) that will come in at #9, pushing Alvarez to #10 and Jones back to the pool.