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    Default Re: Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by Kkisser
    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    If Arum is serious about all of this fitness etc,I expect EM to last the distance,especially as he started training so early. I want him to work Pac's body and please wear the 8oz gloves,he can hurt Pac with the pillows,he can hurt him with the 8 ouncers. I'm going for EM,points or late stoppage and I know that sounds ridiculous but maybe if you will something to happen so badly,it just happens!!
    Thats quite some prediction , Erik by stoppage .If he wins IMO it will be on points cuz I cant see him hurting Pac .

    Im not sitting on the fence by saying it will be a draw but I think Erik will be better than last time , Pac not as good and it will cancel the other out . After 12 hard rounds each guy emerges without a victory
    That's what I mean,I really hope he wins by stoppage but it will be hard. He has stopped Pac in his tracks on numerous occasions in both fights and that is with the pillows,so if he wore the 8oz,my thinking is he could hurt Pac even more.
    it could hurt erik more if he breaks his hands. it has happened before.

    good analysis, game. agree with everything you said except the draw part.
    i also feel it's a mistake for erik to take on manny again immediately for the 3rd time. i heard it thru the grapevine that there are plans for morales to move up to 135lbs after this and fight the winner of casamayor-corrales. if he gets badly beaten again by manny it could send him into retirement.

    also, erik's nutritionists has got to do a better job cos 2 weeks going into his weight program he still looks huge in the press conference for the fight yesterday. i feel he'd still be weight drain come fight night.
    Who ya picking then kkisser ? The reason I picked draw is cuz I believe it will be a political decision given so both fighters retain their rep and credibility . I think Pac deserves to be a strong favourite and if I had to lean 1 way id go with him but I do predict a 12 rounder in this 1 . If Eriks going out then hes goin out fighting
    a draw would be fuking great, although im picking erik to win by UD.....id love to see pacman vs JMM II and erik looked a bit chunky in the press pics......

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    Default Re: Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    LMAO,Violent Demise,even though we agree,um I think you sad clicked me!!
    Nah, I didn't. I would of let you know. By the way here's your 86 sc for thinking wrong

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    Default Re: Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

    Morales has a longer reach which helped him win EASILY on the first fight. Jab jab straight right...and so on. Whenever Pac would charge for Morales with his one-two attack Morales would just step aside like a Matador who has a bull charging him. I could hear in my mind "OOooooleeeeee". After the fight you could see both of their faces and see who dominated easily. In the second fight Morales tried to exchange punches to make the fight more exciting, FOR THE FANS.

    On this fight he should fight FOR HIM, not the fans, and use his reach and height advantage just like the first fight and keep the distance for a victory.

    Anything can happen and that's what we all love about boxing, eh?

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    Default Re: Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

    Let me say this...a Pac win is better for boxing...but as a fan...I want Morales to win.

    What can I say...I just love the heart & grit of Morales...then again...if Pac were to win (which I think he will) then you know that there is always a shot at the rematches against JMM or Barrera...& I want to see both of those.
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    Default Re: Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Let me say this...a Pac win is better for boxing...but as a fan...I want Morales to win.

    What can I say...I just love the heart & grit of Morales...then again...if Pac were to win (which I think he will) then you know that there is always a shot at the rematches against JMM or Barrera...& I want to see both of those.
    EXACTLY!!!!!!!!! plus the rumors of him wanting to retire by the end of 2007?

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    I really thi nk this is gonna be another great fight! I am amped that Morales seems confident but feel that he has to much wear n' tear up to this point. I'm picking Pacquiao to stop it again late. Looking forward to this one so much. Should be fun as long as it lasts!!!
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    Default Re: Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

    If Manny knocks him out again then Erik was just selling the fight GAME. But I haven't really seen Manny improve since after the first Morales fight, he's put more punches together but is still one dimensional as I don't see very much defense from him. Morales can beat him by boxing him and not slugging. But is Morales going to slug? probably? Should he slug? no

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    Default Re: Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    If Manny knocks him out again then Erik was just selling the fight GAME. But I haven't really seen Manny improve since after the first Morales fight, he's put more punches together but is still one dimensional as I don't see very much defense from him. Morales can beat him by boxing him and not slugging. But is Morales going to slug? probably? Should he slug? no
    Agreed, if Morales goes toe to toe with Pacquiao he's gonna get stopped again. He's gotta come in with a game plan to box & stick to it!
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    Default Re: Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

    Quote Originally Posted by galaxy76
    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    If Manny knocks him out again then Erik was just selling the fight GAME. But I haven't really seen Manny improve since after the first Morales fight, he's put more punches together but is still one dimensional as I don't see very much defense from him. Morales can beat him by boxing him and not slugging. But is Morales going to slug? probably? Should he slug? no
    Agreed, if Morales goes toe to toe with Pacquiao he's gonna get stopped again. He's gotta come in with a game plan to box & stick to it!
    Just like his first fight using his height and reach advantage.

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    Default Re: Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

    EL TERRIBLE

    DE LA ZONA NORTE WILL PREVAIL ONCE AGAIN

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    Default Re: Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by Kkisser
    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    If Arum is serious about all of this fitness etc,I expect EM to last the distance,especially as he started training so early. I want him to work Pac's body and please wear the 8oz gloves,he can hurt Pac with the pillows,he can hurt him with the 8 ouncers. I'm going for EM,points or late stoppage and I know that sounds ridiculous but maybe if you will something to happen so badly,it just happens!!
    Thats quite some prediction , Erik by stoppage .If he wins IMO it will be on points cuz I cant see him hurting Pac .

    Im not sitting on the fence by saying it will be a draw but I think Erik will be better than last time , Pac not as good and it will cancel the other out . After 12 hard rounds each guy emerges without a victory
    That's what I mean,I really hope he wins by stoppage but it will be hard. He has stopped Pac in his tracks on numerous occasions in both fights and that is with the pillows,so if he wore the 8oz,my thinking is he could hurt Pac even more.
    it could hurt erik more if he breaks his hands. it has happened before.

    good analysis, game. agree with everything you said except the draw part.
    i also feel it's a mistake for erik to take on manny again immediately for the 3rd time. i heard it thru the grapevine that there are plans for morales to move up to 135lbs after this and fight the winner of casamayor-corrales. if he gets badly beaten again by manny it could send him into retirement.

    also, erik's nutritionists has got to do a better job cos 2 weeks going into his weight program he still looks huge in the press conference for the fight yesterday. i feel he'd still be weight drain come fight night.
    Who ya picking then kkisser ? The reason I picked draw is cuz I believe it will be a political decision given so both fighters retain their rep and credibility . I think Pac deserves to be a strong favourite and if I had to lean 1 way id go with him but I do predict a 12 rounder in this 1 . If Eriks going out then hes goin out fighting
    it'll be pretty much like the last fight. erik will be very competitive in the early goings but will slowly fade. i'm predicting a late stoppage win for manny.

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    Default Re: Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

    I totally disagree with your points StARR,Manny has improved alot since the first fight! If he hadn't Erik would have beat on him again second time around. He used the jab more,he has an effective right hand,his body work was good and he almost had an in/ out boxer type movement ib the second fight. TOwards the end,he was blocking/walking through whatever Morales had so his D was not too bad either. He has DEFINITEYL improved and to call Manny 1 dimensional now would be disprespectful to the P4P number 1.

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    Default Re: Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    I totally disagree with your points StARR,Manny has improved alot since the first fight! If he hadn't Erik would have beat on him again second time around. He used the jab more,he has an effective right hand,his body work was good and he almost had an in/ out boxer type movement ib the second fight. TOwards the end,he was blocking/walking through whatever Morales had so his D was not too bad either. He has DEFINITEYL improved and to call Manny 1 dimensional now would be disprespectful to the P4P number 1.
    To Mayweather? And Manny aint improved Morales just traded more and payed for it and didn't have the gameplan he did in the first fight and he didn't do the same things either. You forget the fight was still close, like I said he didn't improve since the fight after the first Morales fight. I haven't seen a change in him other then the right hook and better jab(which again was the fight after th first Morales fight) and he aint improved from that and against Larios lead with the same three punches and I dont see his defense improving do you?

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    Default Re: Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    If Manny knocks him out again then Erik was just selling the fight GAME. But I haven't really seen Manny improve since after the first Morales fight, he's put more punches together but is still one dimensional as I don't see very much defense from him. Morales can beat him by boxing him and not slugging. But is Morales going to slug? probably? Should he slug? no
    so what's your official prediction on this fight, starr?

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    Default Re: Erik Morales:Believe in me 1 more time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    If Manny knocks him out again then Erik was just selling the fight GAME. But I haven't really seen Manny improve since after the first Morales fight, he's put more punches together but is still one dimensional as I don't see very much defense from him. Morales can beat him by boxing him and not slugging. But is Morales going to slug? probably? Should he slug? no
    babes did u see Manny in the Larios fight? he pulled out some new moves hitting and moving all the way 180 degrees so when Oscar tried to counter Manny was literally behind him. ive never seen Manny bust that type of ish before.

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