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    Default Re: What does Zab Judah do now??

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
    Quote Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    According to ESPn,he;s fighting in September sometime?
    incredible to schedule a fight so soon after a brutal stoppage. Emanual Steward always said the key for a fighter to recover fully from being knocked out or having a tough fight is to take a 6 months and over rest after being stopped badly. After the Hagler fight Hearns was off for 11 months. Did him well. He seemed to need the rest. Some people think differently but a long rest can also give the fighter a fresher feeling and not have the knockout so clear in his mind.
    It is weird to come back so quick after a brutal fight.

    Zab has done this before though. After he lost to Spinks (which wasn't a bloody fight but was a loss), he took only a month off and then fought Pineda, and he fought one of the worst fights of his career. Zab was awful that night against Pineda.
    Rafael Pineda? That guy is a hard puncher if it is the same Pineda. I think it is better to take a rest and regroup. That is why I think guys get a different trainer when they lose sometimes. Just so they can blame the old trainer for the loss and convince themselves that it was not them. And taking a rest helps them do that and feel good again physically and mentally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
    Quote Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    According to ESPn,he;s fighting in September sometime?
    incredible to schedule a fight so soon after a brutal stoppage. Emanual Steward always said the key for a fighter to recover fully from being knocked out or having a tough fight is to take a 6 months and over rest after being stopped badly. After the Hagler fight Hearns was off for 11 months. Did him well. He seemed to need the rest. Some people think differently but a long rest can also give the fighter a fresher feeling and not have the knockout so clear in his mind.
    It is weird to come back so quick after a brutal fight.

    Zab has done this before though. After he lost to Spinks (which wasn't a bloody fight but was a loss), he took only a month off and then fought Pineda, and he fought one of the worst fights of his career. Zab was awful that night against Pineda.
    Rafael Pineda? That guy is a hard puncher if it is the same Pineda. I think it is better to take a rest and regroup. That is why I think guys get a different trainer when they lose sometimes. Just so they can blame the old trainer for the loss and convince themselves that it was not them. And taking a rest helps them do that and feel good again physically and mentally.
    Yes, Rafael.

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    Default Re: What does Zab Judah do now??

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
    Quote Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
    Quote Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    According to ESPn,he;s fighting in September sometime?
    incredible to schedule a fight so soon after a brutal stoppage. Emanual Steward always said the key for a fighter to recover fully from being knocked out or having a tough fight is to take a 6 months and over rest after being stopped badly. After the Hagler fight Hearns was off for 11 months. Did him well. He seemed to need the rest. Some people think differently but a long rest can also give the fighter a fresher feeling and not have the knockout so clear in his mind.
    It is weird to come back so quick after a brutal fight.

    Zab has done this before though. After he lost to Spinks (which wasn't a bloody fight but was a loss), he took only a month off and then fought Pineda, and he fought one of the worst fights of his career. Zab was awful that night against Pineda.
    Rafael Pineda? That guy is a hard puncher if it is the same Pineda. I think it is better to take a rest and regroup. That is why I think guys get a different trainer when they lose sometimes. Just so they can blame the old trainer for the loss and convince themselves that it was not them. And taking a rest helps them do that and feel good again physically and mentally.
    Yes, Rafael.
    I didn't know Pineda was still fighting. He fought Mark Breland in I think 1987 and then he fought Roger Mayweather and knocked him out. I think Pernell Whitaker outboxed him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
    Quote Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
    Quote Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    According to ESPn,he;s fighting in September sometime?
    incredible to schedule a fight so soon after a brutal stoppage. Emanual Steward always said the key for a fighter to recover fully from being knocked out or having a tough fight is to take a 6 months and over rest after being stopped badly. After the Hagler fight Hearns was off for 11 months. Did him well. He seemed to need the rest. Some people think differently but a long rest can also give the fighter a fresher feeling and not have the knockout so clear in his mind.
    It is weird to come back so quick after a brutal fight.

    Zab has done this before though. After he lost to Spinks (which wasn't a bloody fight but was a loss), he took only a month off and then fought Pineda, and he fought one of the worst fights of his career. Zab was awful that night against Pineda.
    Rafael Pineda? That guy is a hard puncher if it is the same Pineda. I think it is better to take a rest and regroup. That is why I think guys get a different trainer when they lose sometimes. Just so they can blame the old trainer for the loss and convince themselves that it was not them. And taking a rest helps them do that and feel good again physically and mentally.
    Yes, Rafael.
    I didn't know Pineda was still fighting. He fought Mark Breland in I think 1987 and then he fought Roger Mayweather and knocked him out. I think Pernell Whitaker outboxed him.
    Yes, he KO'd Mayweather, then he got shutout by Whitaker at 140 pounds. After that, he retired for about 4 years, then he came back at 147/154. The Zab fight was his last fight.

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    Default Re: What does Zab Judah do now??

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
    Quote Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
    Quote Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
    Quote Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    According to ESPn,he;s fighting in September sometime?
    incredible to schedule a fight so soon after a brutal stoppage. Emanual Steward always said the key for a fighter to recover fully from being knocked out or having a tough fight is to take a 6 months and over rest after being stopped badly. After the Hagler fight Hearns was off for 11 months. Did him well. He seemed to need the rest. Some people think differently but a long rest can also give the fighter a fresher feeling and not have the knockout so clear in his mind.
    It is weird to come back so quick after a brutal fight.

    Zab has done this before though. After he lost to Spinks (which wasn't a bloody fight but was a loss), he took only a month off and then fought Pineda, and he fought one of the worst fights of his career. Zab was awful that night against Pineda.
    Rafael Pineda? That guy is a hard puncher if it is the same Pineda. I think it is better to take a rest and regroup. That is why I think guys get a different trainer when they lose sometimes. Just so they can blame the old trainer for the loss and convince themselves that it was not them. And taking a rest helps them do that and feel good again physically and mentally.
    Yes, Rafael.
    I didn't know Pineda was still fighting. He fought Mark Breland in I think 1987 and then he fought Roger Mayweather and knocked him out. I think Pernell Whitaker outboxed him.
    Yes, he KO'd Mayweather, then he got shutout by Whitaker at 140 pounds. After that, he retired for about 4 years, then he came back at 147/154. The Zab fight was his last fight.
    well I hope he stays retired. He demolished Roger Mayweather, although most guys who connected on Roger's chin got the win.

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    Default Re: What does Zab Judah do now??

    Zab weighed in at 145lb for the Cotto fight, maybe he can still make 140? Hatton??

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
    Zab weighed in at 145lb for the Cotto fight, maybe he can still make 140? Hatton??
    I thought about this too, but I doubt it for two reasons:

    1. Zab looked to be in outstanding condition for the Cotto fight, yet still weighed 5 pounds above 140. He would have to really drain himself to make 140 at this point.

    2. There are more big money fights at 147 than 140.

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    Default Re: What does Zab Judah do now??

    pernell and zab are friends, I trained with zab and his brothers at gleasons gym in brooklyn ny for some years. pernell and duva was working close with zab during his olympic years and early pro years.

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    Default Re: What does Zab Judah do now??

    Retire.

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    Default Re: What does Zab Judah do now??

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
    Zab weighed in at 145lb for the Cotto fight, maybe he can still make 140? Hatton??
    I thought about this too, but I doubt it for two reasons:

    1. Zab looked to be in outstanding condition for the Cotto fight, yet still weighed 5 pounds above 140. He would have to really drain himself to make 140 at this point.

    2. There are more big money fights at 147 than 140.
    Who would fight him at 147 that would generate more money than a Hatton fight at 140? Just curious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kel
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
    Zab weighed in at 145lb for the Cotto fight, maybe he can still make 140? Hatton??
    I thought about this too, but I doubt it for two reasons:

    1. Zab looked to be in outstanding condition for the Cotto fight, yet still weighed 5 pounds above 140. He would have to really drain himself to make 140 at this point.

    2. There are more big money fights at 147 than 140.
    Who would fight him at 147 that would generate more money than a Hatton fight at 140? Just curious
    I don't see why Hatton would have any interest in fighting Judah. If he beats Castillo, I think Hatton looks for a BIG money fight against Floyd, or fights someone like Witter at 140.

    Other than Hatton, there aren't any big money fights at 140. They are all at 147.

    I don't think Zab can make that weight anyway.

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    I'd like to see Judah take on some guys that would give me just enough that he'll be able to handle and give use a good show. I don't think it would be in Judah's best interests to take on every mountain that steps in the ring but he showed he still has a lot left in the tank when he showed us a lot in his fight with Cotto. I think a Zab Judah, Allen Green fight at 147, or a match with Joe C. would do him a world of good not to mention get his confidence back into the game.
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    Default Re: What does Zab Judah do now??

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
    Quote Originally Posted by Kel
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
    Zab weighed in at 145lb for the Cotto fight, maybe he can still make 140? Hatton??
    I thought about this too, but I doubt it for two reasons:

    1. Zab looked to be in outstanding condition for the Cotto fight, yet still weighed 5 pounds above 140. He would have to really drain himself to make 140 at this point.

    2. There are more big money fights at 147 than 140.
    Who would fight him at 147 that would generate more money than a Hatton fight at 140? Just curious
    I don't see why Hatton would have any interest in fighting Judah. If he beats Castillo, I think Hatton looks for a BIG money fight against Floyd, or fights someone like Witter at 140.

    Other than Hatton, there aren't any big money fights at 140. They are all at 147.

    I don't think Zab can make that weight anyway.
    What I mean is Judah would have interest in fighting Hatton for the big money (if thats what he wanted) because I don't see who else at 147 would fight him that would enable Judah to generate more money than a Hatton fight. If that makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kel
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
    Quote Originally Posted by Kel
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
    Zab weighed in at 145lb for the Cotto fight, maybe he can still make 140? Hatton??
    I thought about this too, but I doubt it for two reasons:

    1. Zab looked to be in outstanding condition for the Cotto fight, yet still weighed 5 pounds above 140. He would have to really drain himself to make 140 at this point.

    2. There are more big money fights at 147 than 140.
    Who would fight him at 147 that would generate more money than a Hatton fight at 140? Just curious
    I don't see why Hatton would have any interest in fighting Judah. If he beats Castillo, I think Hatton looks for a BIG money fight against Floyd, or fights someone like Witter at 140.

    Other than Hatton, there aren't any big money fights at 140. They are all at 147.

    I don't think Zab can make that weight anyway.
    What I mean is Judah would have interest in fighting Hatton for the big money (if thats what he wanted) because I don't see who else at 147 would fight him that would enable Judah to generate more money than a Hatton fight. If that makes sense.
    Judah is dangerous for Hatton theres no real benefit for Hatton beating Judah except he would be in for a tough fight and there would be even more critics

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    Default Re: What does Zab Judah do now??

    This was a make or break fight for Zab and he lost it, so thats not good for his career. I'd say his options are:
    Joshua Clottey
    Kermit Cintron
    Rematch with Baldomir
    Rematch with Spinks
    Luis Collazo
    Arturo Gatti
    loser of Williams vs. Margarito fight, so
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