haislett's boxing book

[Trainer Monkey]

Andro has a similar effect,a pitcher who was trying to lose weight while taking Andro a few years ago for the Orioles died because of not hydrating properly

[Chris Nagel]

anyone read this and experiment with it? just curious, the stance section was just glanced at but seemed very very narrow and unbalanced...maybe i didn't read like i should any commets?

Look at how the old fighters stood, Charles Burley, Gene Tunney, or any fighter that was worth their weight in salt you wouldn't be caught dead using the stance that many use today. This has been talked about over and over again in this forum.

Let's look at today's squared on stance of hunching your shoulders, keeping your chin down, and keeping your hands on your cheek bones which with many people takes your elbows away from where they ought to be, along with the step drag movement that puts many fighters off balance. You see here that the whole time the body is working against its own biomechanics hindering the fighter from doing what they're trying to do. Now put a beginner in this stance and they'll walk away with a head ache and wondering what they did wrong.

In defense of this book book I see it as helpful for people that are not familiar with a lot of boxing's techniques and concepts, and I would think that it would be a trainers job to already know them. As with any source of information it shouldn't be taken in like it was the gospel truth, the reader should be objective enough to make up their own mind, to ask questions about the subject and understand where the author is coming from.

The author of this book, Edwin Haislet, as he stated in the preface of the book said that the information within the book was the result of experiment and experience that was geared towards the proper developement of skill. He admitted that it is not perfect and that further experience would bring about constructive changes. You gotta agree with him there. You can see that with the advancement in the understanding in the way the body works, this understanding can be applied to boxing and it's training methods. Experience has also showed us that some of the old methods such as drying out is both impractical and harmful for a person. Some people in their ignorance or perhaps by own experience still stick to the method of drying out. I've still see coaches that go off of the "Water is for the weak" mentallity and consequently their athletes suffer. I know that Kostya Tszyu in his hayday swore by it, and would harldly drink much water when getting prepped for a fight.

It's real big pity for any fighter that has one of those dime a dozen trainers can talk a good talk but don't know what the hell that they're doing. You know what I'm talking about you see a guy like a boxing parrot yelling out the typical boxing lingo, "Keep your hands up, keep your chin down, throw more jabs, throw more to body, watch their right hand, move move. Then you have the fighter that has been taught all the wrong things and getting beat up wondering what went wrong.

I guess what experience can show us that life is too short to be stupid.

[Scrap]

The word constructive comes to mind cc chris

[iceman]

now that's the kind of reply i was looking for thanx so much, i was wondering if anyone still used the drying out method, as some old school belief (like weight lifting) are good. also how much creatine is good a day and how do you ofset the imbalances? also what do you mean it affects touch? as in it alters your perception of things like hot cold pain etc?

[Sharla]

It gives you a chemical inbalance which is unnatural. The body produces creatine overuse puts strain on the reproduction organs. There was a very interesting article biochemistry of exercise 89 worth a read, it frightened the life out of me. plus ability to feel is affected by chemical inbalance

CC for the warning Scrap. I'll look for that paper - thanks for the reference

[Scrap]

Ice, Touch and Feel are The main warning systems in relation to sport its understanding it has been the problem. Like gravity its always there its being able to relate like anything, do you feel up to it is a clue.

[Lords Gym]

Andro has a similar effect,a pitcher who was trying to lose weight while taking Andro a few years ago for the Orioles died because of not hydrating properly

I think you talking about Ephedrine?? .. Andro would actually have the opposite effect on the body. likely increase the body's weight ..Really the problem is nobody goes by recommended dosage on these things, they take 3 4 times the recommended dosage and have ill effects. Ephedrine when used properly was a nice product. a few people abused it and died or fell ill , The powers at hand were quick to pull it off the shelves. It's crazy how things work, all political.. Take cigarettes for example, it’s a known fact that cigarettes kills millions of people every year, yet you can still go buy a pack.. makes no logical sense to me, how things work,, and we the people just sit back and except it.. It’s ludicrous

[iceman]

well then with all these warings and some firsthand knowledge, this post mmay serve a lot of young boxers... i remember that a Rhadi Ferguson once told me that supplements were the last thing he needed, last. that was he found good general nutrition and rest did more than most will give time and crdit for... so for all the young boxers, take heed... the body is incrdible don't get too fast

[Trainer Monkey]

Andro has a similar effect,a pitcher who was trying to lose weight while taking Andro a few years ago for the Orioles died because of not hydrating properly

I think you talking about Ephedrine?? .. Andro would actually have the opposite effect on the body. likely increase the body's weight ..Really the problem is nobody goes by recommended dosage on these things, they take 3 4 times the recommended dosage and have ill effects. Ephedrine when used properly was a nice product. a few people abused it and died or fell ill , The powers at hand were quick to pull it off the shelves. It's crazy how things work, all political.. Take cigarettes for example, it’s a known fact that cigarettes kills millions of people every year, yet you can still go buy a pack.. makes no logical sense to me, how things work,, and we the people just sit back and except it.. It’s ludicrous

My bad it was ephedrine
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