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    Default Re: Calzaghe and frank warren split - OFFICIAL

    Why would Joe want to join forces with the sinking ship that is Sports Network
    Should be a mega star already,no doubt Warren held him back but he's only got himself (JC) to blame really.
    Ain't as if Warren had a gun to his head

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    Default Re: Calzaghe and frank warren split - OFFICIAL

    My guess is he will not be (legally) committed to his Setanta deal anymore, which is why I am wondering whether this is not merely a ploy to get more money out of the Roy Jones fight. Now Sky PPV could be an option for example.

    Sort of same thing happened with Kessler-Andrade, where Palle's good friend (former boxer) Hans Henrik Palm suddenly won the purse offer, having never staged a show before or after. This way they were free to offer it as ppv, despite Palle's stable being contractually bound to a (free, third rate) tv-channel.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe and frank warren split - OFFICIAL

    Doesn't really matter it won't change the outcome of Calzaghe's career, he will still face Jones Jr for his last fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikkel_K View Post
    My guess is he will not be (legally) committed to his Setanta deal anymore, which is why I am wondering whether this is not merely a ploy to get more money out of the Roy Jones fight. Now Sky PPV could be an option for example.

    Sort of same thing happened with Kessler-Andrade, where Palle's good friend (former boxer) Hans Henrik Palm suddenly won the purse offer, having never staged a show before or after. This way they were free to offer it as ppv, despite Palle's stable being contractually bound to a (free, third rate) tv-channel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smashup View Post
    Why would Joe want to join forces with the sinking ship that is Sports Network
    Should be a mega star already,no doubt Warren held him back but he's only got himself (JC) to blame really.
    Ain't as if Warren had a gun to his head
    Maybe he's joining forces with Hatton - they can be the Brit Golden Boy

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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post

    JC is signed to fight for setanta for the remainder of his career.

    Compared to HBO/Showtime the UK tv networks are small time therefore that itself will have no impact on why he and warren split and who he fights next
    Calzaghe's now an HBO fighter also.

    He'll be broadcast news in the boxing world from here on out as long as his career can stand the test of time. Joe made a mad dash offa ShowTime even though Warren was trying to cash in on that stable. From what I read a few years back...that caused a bit of tension...but who knows if that's 100% on the up & up, but I seriously doubt that it's been smooth sailing for Joe & Fwank the entire time.

    In the end...I honestly have no complaints with Calzaghe fighting Jones...it's actually the fight I want to see.

    While I was a massive Jones jr fan...after his back to back brutal knockouts at the hands of Tarver & Johnson...I can honestly say that I never wanted to see him in the ring again. I was pleasantly surprised by the outcome of his last two fights...but I doubt that it's a walk in the park for him against Joe.

    That being said...I don't see the Pavlik fight as an easy win...but a win in the end all the same.

    Kelly's a great kid & a hell of a fighter...but Calzaghe...Calzaghe is Calzaghe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wacko2305 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post

    JC is signed to fight for setanta for the remainder of his career.

    Compared to HBO/Showtime the UK tv networks are small time therefore that itself will have no impact on why he and warren split and who he fights next
    Calzaghe's now an HBO fighter also.

    He'll be broadcast news in the boxing world from here on out as long as his career can stand the test of time. Joe made a mad dash offa ShowTime even though Warren was trying to cash in on that stable. From what I read a few years back...that caused a bit of tension...but who knows if that's 100% on the up & up, but I seriously doubt that it's been smooth sailing for Joe & Fwank the entire time.

    In the end...I honestly have no complaints with Calzaghe fighting Jones...it's actually the fight I want to see.

    While I was a massive Jones jr fan...after his back to back brutal knockouts at the hands of Tarver & Johnson...I can honestly say that I never wanted to see him in the ring again. I was pleasantly surprised by the outcome of his last two fights...but I doubt that it's a walk in the park for him against Joe.

    That being said...I don't see the Pavlik fight as an easy win...but a win in the end all the same.

    Kelly's a great kid & a hell of a fighter...but Calzaghe...Calzaghe is Calzaghe.
    I disagree i think Calzaghe looked like a fighter on his way out against Hopkins, his jab wern't snappy and his combo's wern't as fast and they just didn't look like the same combo's that battered Lacy all around the ring, i think Calzaghe might actually be there for the taking against a young powerhouse like Pavlik, remember Hopkins hasn't been noted as a big puncher in quite some time, yet he manged to stun Calzaghe on numerous occasion's and even floored him with those straight right hands, then i come to thinking what if it was Pavlik hitting Calzaghe with those straight right hands how would Calzaghe cope with that ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    I disagree i think Calzaghe looked like a fighter on his way out against Hopkins, his jab wern't snappy and his combo's wern't as fast and they just didn't look like the same combo's that battered Lacy all around the ring, i think Calzaghe might actually be there for the taking against a young powerhouse like Pavlik, remember Hopkins hasn't been noted as a big puncher in quite some time, yet he manged to stun Calzaghe on numerous occasion's and even floored him with those straight right hands, then i come to thinking what if it was Pavlik hitting Calzaghe with those straight right hands how would Calzaghe cope with that ??
    it would be a brutal KO if that happened..

    I can only hope he fights Pavlik, but i don't see it happening.. The thing is, of course there is always the argument that "there is always another up and comer they could fight" but to be honest, if Calzaghe beats Jones and Pavlik, unless someone else very quickly rises to the top, i'd really feel that he fought the best guy possible..

    lets face it, if Joe beats Pavlik, what will we be saying? He should fight Abraham, or Kessler has improved since they fought and he should fight Kessler.. no.. we'd know that Pavlik was the best guy out there, and as much as i want to see Calzaghe lose, i'd be content with his opposition..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wacko2305 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post

    JC is signed to fight for setanta for the remainder of his career.

    Compared to HBO/Showtime the UK tv networks are small time therefore that itself will have no impact on why he and warren split and who he fights next
    Calzaghe's now an HBO fighter also.

    He'll be broadcast news in the boxing world from here on out as long as his career can stand the test of time. Joe made a mad dash offa ShowTime even though Warren was trying to cash in on that stable. From what I read a few years back...that caused a bit of tension...but who knows if that's 100% on the up & up, but I seriously doubt that it's been smooth sailing for Joe & Fwank the entire time.

    In the end...I honestly have no complaints with Calzaghe fighting Jones...it's actually the fight I want to see.

    While I was a massive Jones jr fan...after his back to back brutal knockouts at the hands of Tarver & Johnson...I can honestly say that I never wanted to see him in the ring again. I was pleasantly surprised by the outcome of his last two fights...but I doubt that it's a walk in the park for him against Joe.

    That being said...I don't see the Pavlik fight as an easy win...but a win in the end all the same.

    Kelly's a great kid & a hell of a fighter...but Calzaghe...Calzaghe is Calzaghe.
    I disagree i think Calzaghe looked like a fighter on his way out against Hopkins, his jab wern't snappy and his combo's wern't as fast and they just didn't look like the same combo's that battered Lacy all around the ring, i think Calzaghe might actually be there for the taking against a young powerhouse like Pavlik, remember Hopkins hasn't been noted as a big puncher in quite some time, yet he manged to stun Calzaghe on numerous occasion's and even floored him with those straight right hands, then i come to thinking what if it was Pavlik hitting Calzaghe with those straight right hands how would Calzaghe cope with that ??
    Regardless of how bad Hop makes guys look, Calzaghe was much sloppier than usual in his last fight and I agree with you that father time is catching up with him. Which is why I don't want him to fight Pavlik since his chances of beating him diminshes with every passing month.

    Regardless of what RP33 says, there will ALWAYS be another up and comer waiting in the wings, Pavlik was absloutley nowhere on Joe's radar even 10 months ago, now Abrham is making a name for himself, and what if Bute or Froch gets a big win under their belt? Whether the hype was warranted or not, the call was much higher at the time for joe to fight Lacy, and then Kessler than the call is presently to fight Pavlik (though all the joe doubters would LOVE him to take a fight to far).

    A s for the Warren split, I can only imagine that he wants to cut out the middle man for one last fight, which is risky since Warren did offer work for Calzaghe after he retires. Whether Joe's career could have taken a different direction or not, I don't believe it was ALL Warren's doing that it took him so long to get noticed, and it does seem risky to burn a bridge with a guy you've had a good working relationship with for so long.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe and frank warren split - OFFICIAL

    Would loved to have watched Warrens face when he found out.
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    If Calzaghe ends up fighting one more fight and that fight is Jones then I think that's just pathetic. I wouldn't mind him taking a payday then fighting Pavlik. But Roy Jones, Jr? Really? What the hell has Roy done? Beaten an old man in Trinidad and now he's back in the mix? He's not even a top tier Lt Heavy.

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    Unless Calzaghe is going to have 3 or fights more and try and cash in I dont really see the point in splitting from Warren now. I dont see the purpose or what Joe is hoping to achieve if he really is going to call it quits after just 1 more fight.

    A few years back it would have made sense but to do it now just seems odd. I hope Joe knows what he's doing this for and he gets it right.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe and frank warren split - OFFICIAL

    I hope Calzaghe fights Pavlik. Seeing Joe get knocked out and his undefeated record disappear would be awesome

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    Default Re: Calzaghe and frank warren split - OFFICIAL

    Haha, good for Joe, Warren must be pissing himself. I wonder just how ugly this could get for both if its not an amicable split.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe and frank warren split - OFFICIAL

    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    I hope Calzaghe fights Pavlik. Seeing Joe get knocked out and his undefeated record disappear would be awesome
    I hope Calzaghe has this in mind and is thinking about one more big show down with Pavlik after Jones because I dont think Pavlik is stopping Joe. And Pavlik isnt going to outwork him.

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