Jesse Jackson wants to cut Obama's nuts off

[El Kabong]

What difference does it make that something is in the Huffington post? You can't find a single inaccuracy in the article. Instead of complaining about the source read the article.

McCain is talking about effectively scrapping social security. If you can explain what he says another way then go ahead. And McCain is a flip flopper. He's the first candiate in history to be stumping against two bills that have his name on them (torture and immigration. )

What Jesse Jackson says even on-mike is irrelevant. McCain made a series of very newsworthy gaffes and blunders over the past few days yet the only thing the media are covering is something Jesse Jackson said and how it affects Obama. No the wonder America is going down the tubes.

Because the Huffington Post are not an objective group of journalists they are liberal 100% unashamed.

Hey anything McCain has done Obama has done worse....FISA anyone Maybe next he'll attend Pro-Life Rallies!

If you want change and you believe in hope and you hope for a candidate that belives in change....then you want Barrack Obama.



And Kirkland this thread isn't about arguing about who's going to be a better President if you want that then go ahead and make it but don't come up in here and divert everyone's attention....Jesse deserves every fucking second of humiliation he has earned it!

If guys like Imus get in trouble for silly remarks and JESSE JACKSON holds them accountable then someone should hold Jesse accountable for this! This goes beyond Obama vs McCain this is about that shit head Jesse Jackson who has made a living perpetuating the cycle of racism! He and Al Sharpton and their cronies have held black people back for waaaaaay too long while true LEADERS like Bill Cosby have stated where the next steps are in the Civil Rights movement and if Obama gets shit for saying what he has said then who's in the wrong? Obama said go to school, learn, prepare yourself for work, don't bank on sports or rap or whatever and accept responsibility if you're a father.....is Jesse Jackson opposed to that?? Yeah apparently he is and I wonder why?? Maybe it's because he wants to keep people poor and stupid so they will listen to his divisive speeches and he'll pocket money from sorry ass companies who'll pay him hush money.


As a white guy I have no problem with society expecting me to be responsible, get a job, have an education, contribute to society, and all that stuff...some people need reminding and maybe Barrack has the experience (being from a single parent home) to tell some people about it. I don't agree with Obama's politics but he's correct on what he said...this thread is about Jesse Jackson being in the wrong.....as always

[bcollins]

What difference does it make that something is in the Huffington post? You can't find a single inaccuracy in the article. Instead of complaining about the source read the article.

McCain is talking about effectively scrapping social security. If you can explain what he says another way then go ahead. And McCain is a flip flopper. He's the first candiate in history to be stumping against two bills that have his name on them (torture and immigration. )

What Jesse Jackson says even on-mike is irrelevant. McCain made a series of very newsworthy gaffes and blunders over the past few days yet the only thing the media are covering is something Jesse Jackson said and how it affects Obama. No the wonder America is going down the tubes.

Because the Huffington Post are not an objective group of journalists they are liberal 100% unashamed.

Hey anything McCain has done Obama has done worse....FISA anyone Maybe next he'll attend Pro-Life Rallies!

If you want change and you believe in hope and you hope for a candidate that belives in change....then you want Barrack Obama.



And Kirkland this thread isn't about arguing about who's going to be a better President if you want that then go ahead and make it but don't come up in here and divert everyone's attention....Jesse deserves every fucking second of humiliation he has earned it!

If guys like Imus get in trouble for silly remarks and JESSE JACKSON holds them accountable then someone should hold Jesse accountable for this! This goes beyond Obama vs McCain this is about that shit head Jesse Jackson who has made a living perpetuating the cycle of racism! He and Al Sharpton and their cronies have held black people back for waaaaaay too long while true LEADERS like Bill Cosby have stated where the next steps are in the Civil Rights movement and if Obama gets shit for saying what he has said then who's in the wrong? Obama said go to school, learn, prepare yourself for work, don't bank on sports or rap or whatever and accept responsibility if you're a father.....is Jesse Jackson opposed to that?? Yeah apparently he is and I wonder why?? Maybe it's because he wants to keep people poor and stupid so they will listen to his divisive speeches and he'll pocket money from sorry ass companies who'll pay him hush money.


As a white guy I have no problem with society expecting me to be responsible, get a job, have an education, contribute to society, and all that stuff...some people need reminding and maybe Barrack has the experience (being from a single parent home) to tell some people about it. I don't agree with Obama's politics but he's correct on what he said...this thread is about Jesse Jackson being in the wrong.....as always

Lyle - I'm speechless. For once, we're in complete agreement on something. My wife and I were just talking about the negative ways of thinking that Jackson and Sharpton perpetuate.

[Wayne]

What difference does it make that something is in the Huffington post? You can't find a single inaccuracy in the article. Instead of complaining about the source read the article.

McCain is talking about effectively scrapping social security. If you can explain what he says another way then go ahead. And McCain is a flip flopper. He's the first candiate in history to be stumping against two bills that have his name on them (torture and immigration. )

What Jesse Jackson says even on-mike is irrelevant. McCain made a series of very newsworthy gaffes and blunders over the past few days yet the only thing the media are covering is something Jesse Jackson said and how it affects Obama. No the wonder America is going down the tubes.

Because the Huffington Post are not an objective group of journalists they are liberal 100% unashamed.

Hey anything McCain has done Obama has done worse....FISA anyone Maybe next he'll attend Pro-Life Rallies!

If you want change and you believe in hope and you hope for a candidate that belives in change....then you want Barrack Obama.



And Kirkland this thread isn't about arguing about who's going to be a better President if you want that then go ahead and make it but don't come up in here and divert everyone's attention....Jesse deserves every fucking second of humiliation he has earned it!

If guys like Imus get in trouble for silly remarks and JESSE JACKSON holds them accountable then someone should hold Jesse accountable for this! This goes beyond Obama vs McCain this is about that shit head Jesse Jackson who has made a living perpetuating the cycle of racism! He and Al Sharpton and their cronies have held black people back for waaaaaay too long while true LEADERS like Bill Cosby have stated where the next steps are in the Civil Rights movement and if Obama gets shit for saying what he has said then who's in the wrong? Obama said go to school, learn, prepare yourself for work, don't bank on sports or rap or whatever and accept responsibility if you're a father.....is Jesse Jackson opposed to that?? Yeah apparently he is and I wonder why?? Maybe it's because he wants to keep people poor and stupid so they will listen to his divisive speeches and he'll pocket money from sorry ass companies who'll pay him hush money.


As a white guy I have no problem with society expecting me to be responsible, get a job, have an education, contribute to society, and all that stuff...some people need reminding and maybe Barrack has the experience (being from a single parent home) to tell some people about it. I don't agree with Obama's politics but he's correct on what he said...this thread is about Jesse Jackson being in the wrong.....as always

Bill Cosby is a black leader I missed that memo, then. I thought he was an old comedian. Newsflash, guys- any black person who gets on a national stage and says something about black people isn't necessarily a leader. Like him or no (which I don't) Jackson played a part in the Civil Rights movement, Bill Cosby just gave voice to what a lot of white people thought but didn't think it was okay to say. Don't buy into the stereotype that every black child comes from a home where they don't know their father.

There's wrong and then there's wrong. Comparing Imus to Jesse Jackson is truly apples and oranges. Calling someone a nappy-headed ho is a world away from saying you want to cut someone's nuts off. It was Jackson's word choice that got him into trouble, not his message. Imus' message (and I know he wasn't the 1st person to say it, but it was his show and he repeated it even) was only meant to be deragatory. Imus, not Jackson, worked for a major company that has shareholders and consumer-driven advertisers to be held accountable to and for CBS to do nothing would have been suicidal. We should not expect freedom of speech to apply in the workplace. Being black, I couldn't care less about Imus' statements. I'd still buy my Colgate or my Miller or whatever other product that advertised on his show. It has to be something extreme to get my ire up and nappy-headed hoes ain't it. That's just a lame-assed attempt of Imus again trying to be Howard Stern. Howard's said way worse and had no ill-effects (because ppl actually like him). Jackson's comment was dumb because of where he decided to make it. He could have easily have said he disliked how Obama speaks down to black people and that would have been the end of it. But it's sensational; ppl latch onto the fact he said 'nuts' and 'cut off' like 3 year olds hearing the 'f' word outside for the first time. It's such a complete non-story, especially when you have things like 'Hymie-town' and Jackson's corporate racketeering that he seems to have skated away from scot-free. If I'm mad at someone I might be inclined to say I wanna cut their nuts off, but that has nothing to do with their race or any stereotypical aspect about them; it's just a nasty thing to say.

[El Kabong]

I'm not buying into any stereotype...I'm tired of the bullshit excuses! It's not a color it's a way of life because white kids and hispanic kids and asian kids do it too!!!!


Bill Cosby wants people to move forward and contribute to society instead of rebelling from society by not achieving in school and then pinning the blame on "whitey"....I have nothing to do with any reason why anyone is poor or uneducated.....some people (black, white, whoever) need to get it through their thick fucking skulls that they are in control of their life and they choose where they go...they don't choose where they are brought up but they choose what they make out of it. What Bill Cosby says is good for ANYONE to hear not just blacks....get and education, better yourself, and contribute to society! What the fuck is wrong with that Is it wrong to tell someone to stop acting like a fucking thug? Is it wrong to try and help them see how they can get jobs and provide for....A FAMILY instead of turning to crime or running away from their problems


Jesse Jackson pimps his race out for money....he's a worthless piece of shit and why people follow him is beyond me.

Imus made a mistake in his comments with the nappy headed hoes....it was a slow news week that did him in, but when the Pacman Jones comment surfaced it was taken out of context and everyone wanted his head....too bad they didn't take the time to understand what he was saying but then again that was never the way Jesse or Al opperated.


The sad thing is Jesse will still be on MSNBC, Fox, CBS, NBC, CNN and all those other stations whenever there is some kind of racial issue in America....same with Al. And rumor has it that little blurb about cutting Barack's nuts off was just a little bit of what Fox has of Jackson.

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Why are you so irritated by two people who are so irrelevant?

[El Kabong]

Because stations that ARE relevant give them a platform to spread their crap....it's ridiculous

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Who cares? There not politicians. There political pundits. It's like when people get all up in arms when Ann Coulture spouts off at the mouth. What public office has she been elected to? These people are non factors.

[El Kabong]

Jesse ran for President, Al ran for President.....therefore they ARE politicians, not very good ones either

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Porn Star Mary Carey ran for Governor of California. I guess she's a politician too huh. I repeat, what public office have they ever been elected to? That's what I thought.

[amat]

Lyle if it was so easy to get an education and rise from government housing to become a productive member of society more would do it. Fact is, schools in ghettos and lower class societies are complete shit. That's pretty much a fact. Invest money in those things, and you'll see more of the things you wish to see happen.

I do think Jesse Jackson is a bit of a twit, but Al Sharpton does a lot of lobbying for more investment in schools for the lower class and that is a good thing. Obama is also calling for heavy investment in public education, specifically the more lower class schools. If the schools weren't just as shitty as everything else in those environments then you would have a lot more of these success stories Lyle, but given how things are now it's not just as easy as you make it out to be to go to school, get an education and suceed. If it was more would do it.

[El Kabong]

Yeah but Jackson actually won some states so your comparison while amazingly relevant is still different.

[amat]

BTW - McCain has joked about killing Iranians twice now. Where's the outrage Lyle? Certainly that's a bit more serious then Jesse Jackson wanting to cut Obama's nuts off.

[Kirkland Laing]

Bergman is writing straight from the DNC handbook: Step 1: Say they are going to take away your Social Security! Step 2: Complain About War Step 3: We have to get the flip-flop name to stick with the Republicans because John Kerry is still pissed off.


The Republicans and Democrats practice similar politics....but according to voting records Barack Obama is the one towing the Party line AND apparently he feels he must come to the center to win a general election.....if he really was a "transcednent" candidate he would just stick to what he said in the primaries.

What difference does it make that something is in the Huffington post? You can't find a single inaccuracy in the article. Instead of complaining about the source read the article.

McCain is talking about effectively scrapping social security. If you can explain what he says another way then go ahead. And McCain is a flip flopper. He's the first candiate in history to be stumping against two bills that have his name on them (torture and immigration. )

What Jesse Jackson says even on-mike is irrelevant. McCain made a series of very newsworthy gaffes and blunders over the past few days yet the only thing the media are covering is something Jesse Jackson said and how it affects Obama. No the wonder America is going down the tubes.

The only media in the world worse than the Korean media is the American media. And the American media is hands down the worst.

America is going down the chute and really a Democrat government is the only way to go. After all there is no alternative in that so called rich land of democracy.

Im playing on words there but I am quite serious.

Actually I'm hoping that McCain wins. If Obama wins he'll have to make painful economic choices and all thw while the GOP will be screaming "cut taxes", despite the fact that that's one of the main reasons for the current economic problems, and it'll mean the next election the GOP will be able to win by offering tax cuts which just makes the long term situation much worse. Better that McCain wins and carrys on current policies until the inevitable meltdown, then maybe we'll eventually get sensible economic policies in America, something the whole world needs to happen.

Same with Iraq. Right now the media is claiming that "the surge is working", so when Obama starts pulling troops out and the violence goes up he'll be castigated. The common wisdom will be "we were winning, we should have just kept fighting, but the liberal surrendered," instead of we already lost.

So Obama stands to be the new Jimmy Carter, dealing with inflation, high oil/interest rates, crappy economy, etc. Much better if McCain wins and inevitably screws things up so badlly that America finally has to get realistic and has the population in a mood to do so.

[Kirkland Laing]

Bergman is writing straight from the DNC handbook: Step 1: Say they are going to take away your Social Security! Step 2: Complain About War Step 3: We have to get the flip-flop name to stick with the Republicans because John Kerry is still pissed off.


The Republicans and Democrats practice similar politics....but according to voting records Barack Obama is the one towing the Party line AND apparently he feels he must come to the center to win a general election.....if he really was a "transcednent" candidate he would just stick to what he said in the primaries.

That's the truth. Shame we can't scrap the whole system and start over again.

Maybe we could find Plato's enlightened monarch out there somewhere? He's probably living it up in the Caribbean, drinking margaritas and watching the girls dance by.

Exactly there are no real alternatives. And its only a hope that the opposition might bring serious change. Its quite feasible that China and the US are no different. They implement the image of freedom but the reality isnt all that free at all. China as a system of restriction is rising and the US as a system of democracy whilst all the politicians rake in their money on boards is trying to maintain itself.

Oooh, I did a piece of art about this a while ago. I'll have to dig it up and post it on my blog.

[Kirkland Laing]

What difference does it make that something is in the Huffington post? You can't find a single inaccuracy in the article. Instead of complaining about the source read the article.

McCain is talking about effectively scrapping social security. If you can explain what he says another way then go ahead. And McCain is a flip flopper. He's the first candiate in history to be stumping against two bills that have his name on them (torture and immigration. )

What Jesse Jackson says even on-mike is irrelevant. McCain made a series of very newsworthy gaffes and blunders over the past few days yet the only thing the media are covering is something Jesse Jackson said and how it affects Obama. No the wonder America is going down the tubes.

Because the Huffington Post are not an objective group of journalists they are liberal 100% unashamed.

Hey anything McCain has done Obama has done worse....FISA anyone Maybe next he'll attend Pro-Life Rallies!

If you want change and you believe in hope and you hope for a candidate that belives in change....then you want Barrack Obama.



And Kirkland this thread isn't about arguing about who's going to be a better President if you want that then go ahead and make it but don't come up in here and divert everyone's attention....Jesse deserves every fucking second of humiliation he has earned it!

If guys like Imus get in trouble for silly remarks and JESSE JACKSON holds them accountable then someone should hold Jesse accountable for this! This goes beyond Obama vs McCain this is about that shit head Jesse Jackson who has made a living perpetuating the cycle of racism! He and Al Sharpton and their cronies have held black people back for waaaaaay too long while true LEADERS like Bill Cosby have stated where the next steps are in the Civil Rights movement and if Obama gets shit for saying what he has said then who's in the wrong? Obama said go to school, learn, prepare yourself for work, don't bank on sports or rap or whatever and accept responsibility if you're a father.....is Jesse Jackson opposed to that?? Yeah apparently he is and I wonder why?? Maybe it's because he wants to keep people poor and stupid so they will listen to his divisive speeches and he'll pocket money from sorry ass companies who'll pay him hush money.


As a white guy I have no problem with society expecting me to be responsible, get a job, have an education, contribute to society, and all that stuff...some people need reminding and maybe Barrack has the experience (being from a single parent home) to tell some people about it. I don't agree with Obama's politics but he's correct on what he said...this thread is about Jesse Jackson being in the wrong.....as always

You can't find a single inaccuracy in the article I posted. Instead of making a straw man argument about how liberal it is try and find something inaccurate in the article. You can't do it so you make your straw man argument to avoid dealing with reality.

Jesse Jackson is just one of a bunch of religious people who use scummy tactics to fire up their bases and make money. I'm sure when radical cleric Pat Robertson says that the US should assassinate a democratically-elected head of state of another country or some other religious nut does something similar you get just as angry. But you'll notice that Jackson didn't say anything racist and he didn't say it publicly. This is just another manufactured outrage by the right, something they specialise in to distract their followers from what's actually going on in the world. It's obviously a very effective tactic too.