How would a Roy Jones Jr Vs Marvin Hagler fight have ended

[njackets]

At MW I think Hagler stops Roy or gets a UD at SMW I think RJJ gets the UD

[Scrap]

Funny one, Marvin never was good with movers and clever Fighters. I know He struggled with Kevin Finnegan twice, I think his team stayed clear of smart arses thereafter. Guys who could move there front foot were not the top of there shoping list. Even Duran who was smart He struggled to get hold off.At any stage of His career, Jones had respecable power He could whack hard enougth to earn respect from anyone. Style wise Jones would be Marvins worst nightmare, Id lean towards Jones. I dont always go with the old school .

[punch]

I put Roy Jones by KO, but I meant Roy Jones by decision. can someone reset the poll so I can straighten it out.

[SorceryatCaesar]

which hagler? the mediocre hagler of Vito 1, Duran and Leonard?
or the great hagler of Minter and Hearns?

[rjj tszyu]

prime v prime. I know its a bit hard because Roy peaked in the higher weightclasses.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Marvin has a similar style to that of Glenn Johnson, only with more speed and accuracy.

Ideal guy to beat Jones at Middle.

[Majesty]

guys get off of hagler ok?

Don't let just because he is old school cloud your judgement.

People forget how much of a monster Roy was at 168 and how hard he hit and 168 seemed to be more of a natural weight for him.

Now Roy wouldn't stop Hagler, hagler had too good of a chin, but Roy would have outboxed him on his way to a decision.

Roy was extremely freakishly good and powerful at super middleweight.

it befuddles me to no end how people would say that Hagler would have knocked out Roy Jones at super mid.


I see people saying we are talking primes.


If we are talking primes then Roy wins no question and isn't getting knocked out.


If we are talking prime for prime then you can't use Glen Johnson, or tarver.

And the only person who gave Jones trouble was Montell Griffin and Hagler doesn't fight that kind of style.

Stylistically Jones would have been a nightmare for Hagler.

Prime for Prime so I guess we are talking about Roy from the moment he beat James Toney to about 2 fights before Ruiz.

Which Hagler are we talking about?

[Majesty]

My question is, if we are talking about primes here, then why is the Johnson or the Tarver fight relevant?

[RozzySean]

Don't let the fact that Hagler is old school cloud YOUR judgement. Hagler from 78-82. Again, think Roy wins this one by decision, probably 8 rounds to 4.

I don't think stylistically Jones is a nightmare for Hagler. Jones is a stylistic nightmare for a counterpuncher like James Toney or a one-dimensional slugger like Thomas Tate. Or a plodding, slow pressure fighter like Clinton Woods. I think people are saying that based on the Leonard fight, and by that point, Hagler's legs were old and he had become far more one dimensional.

Jones never fought anybody like Hagler in his prime, the combo of power, speed, determination, and skill. The closest, in terms of talent he got was probably Toney, and Toney was much different style than Hagler.

[Kel]

I think alot of people forgetting how great Hagler was last 70s early 80s.

I'm not, he wins by KO for me.

[TommyGunn_]

Watch Leonard vs Hagler but picture Leonard not having a chin.

Hagler KO.

[donnydarkoIRL]

I don't really see the comparison of Hagler and Johnson, at least not with Hagler's usual style, but I suppose if he fights Jones like he did Hearns (which I said earlier might be the best game plan), then yeah, there's some similarities since Hagler will be up close on Jones and swarming.

Hagler's usual style was actually more stylish and polished than his showings with Hearns.

However when he adopted the swarming and aggressive mentality he near always got impressive results.
With Hearns the KO, with Mugabi the KO, with Minter the KO, with Leonard he won rounds he had been losing boxing.

Haglers chin and ability to corner his man or trap him on the ropes (Leonard is actually a good example,) would have pinned Roy and although Hagler would have been clipped he would have scored heavily.

Well yeah, Hagler was usually a boxer-puncher, so that's why I said I didn't really see the comparison with Glen Johnson.

With Mugabi, he was boxing well and jabbing Mugabi silly, and also tearing Mugabi up on the inside with body shots. Kenny Bayless said both of them had blood in their urine afterwards.

I think Hagler's best gameplan against Roy is the aggressive whirlwind who fought Hearns.

When Hagler swarmed against Tommy you didn't see any similarity to Glenn?
Tons of pressure, loads of punches, chin tucked and increasing power as he gained momentum?

dead right, pure aggression would serve him best with Jones.

Hagler I feel had his best success with Leonard when being very aggressive and rough.

[BIG H]

After careful consideration I have voted RJJ PTS

[maiko]

hagler by ko 11

[Taeth]

Hagler would have been made to look foolish, He wasn't quick enough. Roy was a lot faster and sharper then the Leonard who fought Hagler(who hadn't foughten in 3 years) and much bigger. Hagler would have had so much difficulty catching Roy because even with his iron chin he would not be able to just walk through Roy's shots. Roy Jones Jr fight similar to how he always did, move around and when the opponent closed the gap he would overwhelm Hagler in this case with speed and power. Roy was far more adept at doing this and not getting hit then Leonard or anybody else has ever been.