Vindication is sweet.

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I won't throw this in guys faces too much about Pavlik because he proved me wrong, he has a great chin. However, Hopkins was absolutely amazing, I felt he beat Calzaghe, not every round like this fight, but I felt he won that fight in a close one, but one thing I noticed when I was watching Calzaghe fights then Pavlik fights is that Cazlaghe fights like he has chip on his shoudler, if you hit him, he will do everything in his power to dominate you. I didn't feel that from Pavlik in his second fight against Taylor, and I didn't think, coming in to the fight he would have that type of attitude which would be needed to wear Hopkins down like Calzaghe did.

Originally this is how I thought the fight would always go, but because of other people on here who are knowlegable I thought it could be a close fight that Pavlik could win because of his normally much higher punch count, but Hopkins took him to school. Once again Pavlik had a good style against Taylor, but Hopkins had a very bad style for Pavlik, I think Kelly would do a lot better against Calzaghe, Roy Jones Jr, etc, etc because they aren't slick like B-Hop.

All in all I am very proud of B-Hop he is one of my top 5 fav's ever, and I feel that this performance along with the rest of them puts him in the top 30 all time, beating Winky Wright, Trinidad, Calzaghe, Pavlik, Taylor, Tarver all at 40+ IMO is something nobody else will or could ever do. The reason I think he is so special is I thought Winky would dominate him, then Calzaghe, then I smartened up for his fight against Pavlik, and he did things I wouldn't have expected in my wildest dreams.

I wouldn't really draw that conclusion about Pavlik from this fight, because Hopkins IMO is not really a power punching guy, he wins by skill and strategy, not power. Pavlik's chin is at least decent, but not proven to be great. Sure Pavlik was clipped with lots of sharp punches, but not a whole lot of heavy power laden punches.

[Kev]

I won't throw this in guys faces too much about Pavlik because he proved me wrong, he has a great chin. However, Hopkins was absolutely amazing, I felt he beat Calzaghe, not every round like this fight, but I felt he won that fight in a close one, but one thing I noticed when I was watching Calzaghe fights then Pavlik fights is that Cazlaghe fights like he has chip on his shoudler, if you hit him, he will do everything in his power to dominate you. I didn't feel that from Pavlik in his second fight against Taylor, and I didn't think, coming in to the fight he would have that type of attitude which would be needed to wear Hopkins down like Calzaghe did.

Originally this is how I thought the fight would always go, but because of other people on here who are knowlegable I thought it could be a close fight that Pavlik could win because of his normally much higher punch count, but Hopkins took him to school. Once again Pavlik had a good style against Taylor, but Hopkins had a very bad style for Pavlik, I think Kelly would do a lot better against Calzaghe, Roy Jones Jr, etc, etc because they aren't slick like B-Hop.

All in all I am very proud of B-Hop he is one of my top 5 fav's ever, and I feel that this performance along with the rest of them puts him in the top 30 all time, beating Winky Wright, Trinidad, Calzaghe, Pavlik, Taylor, Tarver all at 40+ IMO is something nobody else will or could ever do. The reason I think he is so special is I thought Winky would dominate him, then Calzaghe, then I smartened up for his fight against Pavlik, and he did things I wouldn't have expected in my wildest dreams.

Well I'm glad you feel finally 'vindicated' the villification you suffered for believing in a Hopkins win was something none of us would have liked to have suffered.

I like how you contradict yourself in the very same paragraph stating that you knew the fight would go this way, until us lesser posters managed to discourage your genuis but then you say he did things beyond your wildest dreams.

I actually genuinely believe your wildest dreams probably do involve boxers as well seeing as you spend all your waking hours watching your 100 fights a week.

It's a privilage for us all to have such a boxing historian and expert on our humble little site

[Taeth]

I won't throw this in guys faces too much about Pavlik because he proved me wrong, he has a great chin. However, Hopkins was absolutely amazing, I felt he beat Calzaghe, not every round like this fight, but I felt he won that fight in a close one, but one thing I noticed when I was watching Calzaghe fights then Pavlik fights is that Cazlaghe fights like he has chip on his shoudler, if you hit him, he will do everything in his power to dominate you. I didn't feel that from Pavlik in his second fight against Taylor, and I didn't think, coming in to the fight he would have that type of attitude which would be needed to wear Hopkins down like Calzaghe did.

Originally this is how I thought the fight would always go, but because of other people on here who are knowlegable I thought it could be a close fight that Pavlik could win because of his normally much higher punch count, but Hopkins took him to school. Once again Pavlik had a good style against Taylor, but Hopkins had a very bad style for Pavlik, I think Kelly would do a lot better against Calzaghe, Roy Jones Jr, etc, etc because they aren't slick like B-Hop.

All in all I am very proud of B-Hop he is one of my top 5 fav's ever, and I feel that this performance along with the rest of them puts him in the top 30 all time, beating Winky Wright, Trinidad, Calzaghe, Pavlik, Taylor, Tarver all at 40+ IMO is something nobody else will or could ever do. The reason I think he is so special is I thought Winky would dominate him, then Calzaghe, then I smartened up for his fight against Pavlik, and he did things I wouldn't have expected in my wildest dreams.

Well I'm glad you feel finally 'vindicated' the villification you suffered for believing in a Hopkins win was something none of us would have liked to have suffered.

I like how you contradict yourself in the very same paragraph stating that you knew the fight would go this way, until us lesser posters managed to discourage your genuis but then you say he did things beyond your wildest dreams.

I actually genuinely believe your wildest dreams probably do involve boxers as well seeing as you spend all your waking hours watching your 100 fights a week.

It's a privilage for us all to have such a boxing historian and expert on our humble little site

Your a dumbass lol, If you watch a lot of amateur fights its easy to see a lot of fights. I don't count exactly 100, but its around there. Because I LOVE the sport. You are a charlatan. As for the vindication, I am vindicated because I was right, and many, many people on here were wrong. Also where in the paragraph that you are quoting did I say that the people who's opinions made me think Pavlik might do better were regarded as lesser people? When a person critics what somebody else says, it actually helps if they have said it.

At least I am on a BOXING forum to debate boxing. You admitted in the hidden forum that you don't come this part of the site that much anymore. When it is the main place to discuss boxing. I am wasting my time watching fights? At least its watching boxing, not gossoping like the woman you are.

If you are telling me you have the time to watch more boxing, but you don't then what kind of fan are you? I respect guys like ICB, Preme, Trainer monkey, etc, etc. Because they are here to discuss boxing and do it intelligently. You are just here to win a popularity contest which is far gayer then anything I have done on here.

[Kev]

I won't throw this in guys faces too much about Pavlik because he proved me wrong, he has a great chin. However, Hopkins was absolutely amazing, I felt he beat Calzaghe, not every round like this fight, but I felt he won that fight in a close one, but one thing I noticed when I was watching Calzaghe fights then Pavlik fights is that Cazlaghe fights like he has chip on his shoudler, if you hit him, he will do everything in his power to dominate you. I didn't feel that from Pavlik in his second fight against Taylor, and I didn't think, coming in to the fight he would have that type of attitude which would be needed to wear Hopkins down like Calzaghe did.

Originally this is how I thought the fight would always go, but because of other people on here who are knowlegable I thought it could be a close fight that Pavlik could win because of his normally much higher punch count, but Hopkins took him to school. Once again Pavlik had a good style against Taylor, but Hopkins had a very bad style for Pavlik, I think Kelly would do a lot better against Calzaghe, Roy Jones Jr, etc, etc because they aren't slick like B-Hop.

All in all I am very proud of B-Hop he is one of my top 5 fav's ever, and I feel that this performance along with the rest of them puts him in the top 30 all time, beating Winky Wright, Trinidad, Calzaghe, Pavlik, Taylor, Tarver all at 40+ IMO is something nobody else will or could ever do. The reason I think he is so special is I thought Winky would dominate him, then Calzaghe, then I smartened up for his fight against Pavlik, and he did things I wouldn't have expected in my wildest dreams.

Well I'm glad you feel finally 'vindicated' the villification you suffered for believing in a Hopkins win was something none of us would have liked to have suffered.

I like how you contradict yourself in the very same paragraph stating that you knew the fight would go this way, until us lesser posters managed to discourage your genuis but then you say he did things beyond your wildest dreams.

I actually genuinely believe your wildest dreams probably do involve boxers as well seeing as you spend all your waking hours watching your 100 fights a week.

It's a privilage for us all to have such a boxing historian and expert on our humble little site

Your a dumbass lol, If you watch a lot of amateur fights its easy to see a lot of fights. I don't count exactly 100, but its around there. Because I LOVE the sport. You are a charlatan. As for the vindication, I am vindicated because I was right, and many, many people on here were wrong. Also where in the paragraph that you are quoting did I say that the people who's opinions made me think Pavlik might do better were regarded as lesser people? When a person critics what somebody else says, it actually helps if they have said it.

At least I am on a BOXING forum to debate boxing. You admitted in the hidden forum that you don't come this part of the site that much anymore. When it is the main place to discuss boxing. I am wasting my time watching fights? At least its watching boxing, not gossoping like the woman you are.

If you are telling me you have the time to watch more boxing, but you don't then what kind of fan are you? I respect guys like ICB, Preme, Trainer monkey, etc, etc. Because they are here to discuss boxing and do it intelligently. You are just here to win a popularity contest which is far gayer then anything I have done on here.

You respect Preme.........that says it all

[Taeth]

Well I'm glad you feel finally 'vindicated' the villification you suffered for believing in a Hopkins win was something none of us would have liked to have suffered.

I like how you contradict yourself in the very same paragraph stating that you knew the fight would go this way, until us lesser posters managed to discourage your genuis but then you say he did things beyond your wildest dreams.

I actually genuinely believe your wildest dreams probably do involve boxers as well seeing as you spend all your waking hours watching your 100 fights a week.

It's a privilage for us all to have such a boxing historian and expert on our humble little site

Your a dumbass lol, If you watch a lot of amateur fights its easy to see a lot of fights. I don't count exactly 100, but its around there. Because I LOVE the sport. You are a charlatan. As for the vindication, I am vindicated because I was right, and many, many people on here were wrong. Also where in the paragraph that you are quoting did I say that the people who's opinions made me think Pavlik might do better were regarded as lesser people? When a person critics what somebody else says, it actually helps if they have said it.

At least I am on a BOXING forum to debate boxing. You admitted in the hidden forum that you don't come this part of the site that much anymore. When it is the main place to discuss boxing. I am wasting my time watching fights? At least its watching boxing, not gossoping like the woman you are.

If you are telling me you have the time to watch more boxing, but you don't then what kind of fan are you? I respect guys like ICB, Preme, Trainer monkey, etc, etc. Because they are here to discuss boxing and do it intelligently. You are just here to win a popularity contest which is far gayer then anything I have done on here.

You respect Preme.........that says it all

I'm guessing he's one of the them, I would have to see his posts, I don't really pay attention to who is saying what, just what they are saying, unless I find myself involved with a person who is consistently being a prick.