Just Back Briefly To Say.....

[Spicoli]

Well this has endling badly all over it.Man.

ICB,you've never asked my opinion and Ive never knocked heads with you but I think alot of 'it' is how you approach people.I personally like your enthusiasm and willingness to reach back and learn on past events,history.It adds alot,and a good ensurance of the future.But the delivery can be like a back handed repetative slap at times,and many guys and gals here not only have read or 'remember' certain fights and events in life...but have actually lived it live,when you were still sporting onesy trunks as a tot.It may be a generational thing.I dont know about the copying post thing,if it happened that pretty shady,you need to admit and own it.People can spot mis leading shite.Just keep it real.

[Memphis]

I dont have it in for you, I couldnt care less if your here or not. I think your a loon who cant tell where the lies stop and the truth starts. There are massive inconsistancies in just about everything you say, by the way the loss you have or havent had was brought to my attention by another poster, one who I believe tells the truth.

Nothing more to it than that really.

[boozeboxer]

DOes anyone else agree that...."just back briefly to say...." is a complete bitch-ass pillow biting way to leave or get people to feel sorry for you??

What the hell ICB? DId ESB kick you out?

[CutMeMick]

Turned on you?
I was never with you, I pretended just like how you like pretending...

I played your game all along I never believed a single word you said and clearly you comeback to try and gloat about JMM but if you really wanted to comeback you would have cleared up things here in the Hidden Boards.

We know you've been on here with your alternate account reading posts I saw you logged on with it reading the threads here so you obviously know what's going on here but you STILL can't tighten up your balls and just say "Hey look, I lied about a few things and I said something that weren't true..."

But whatever man, you do you and if this shit works for you then good for you. But you can fuck off for all I care. Don't try and play me as turning on you or back stabbing you cause that ain't the case.

It just pisses me off that you wont to come on here like a victim which you aint, I clearly called you out on copying my posts and reposting my comments and you haven't said shit.

You clearly cheated on the game and now I read you MADE UP somethings about SRR to win a debate... WTF? Then you admitted to it like nothing happened... You must be out of your fucken mind kid.

Again I never turned, you turned yourself on you for the shit you did. Dont' blame other people for the mistakes YOU made. We didn't tell you to lie or cheat you did that to yourself. You live, you learn.

Well your pretty sick person then you PM'ed me basically saying we were cool did you not ? we spoke in PM's about this and you said you understood now your saying this in my thread ? you are a backstabber end of.

What kind of normal person makes out there cool with someone, then backstabs them like this ? what the hell did i ever do to you ? we had a misunderstanding i apologized too you because it got heated. And i said a few things as you did.

But lucky for me i have the proof here it is i have the PM.

Originally Posted by ICB
Whats up Mick ?? i know we have been having a bit of an up and downer the past few months, but i just wanted to say theres no hard feelings. When i said i didn't want to debate anymore i said that because i thought it was best because we had been arguing too much, I think you got the wrong impression and thought i didn't want to talk to you anymore when thats not what i meant, you don't have to reply if you don't want to but i think its best if we can communicate again without giving each other the silent treatment and ignoring each other.

Posted by Mick

don't even know where to start, I feel you disrespected me with some of your comments and the way you went about in that thread. I mean really how are you gonna tell when whos what when I was telling you I'm just like them. You were trying to tell me I was wrong about something I live EVERYDAY and you pushed the subject as far as you could.
You locked the thread and it would have ended there but you went and unlocked the thread and kept making comments then you decided to lock it again leaving you with the last word. So I decided to unlock the thread and say what I had to say.

I'm good, but I feel that no matter what I'll still see you as someone who couldn't admit they were wrong and decided to go take another route instead of just stepping up and admitting to being wrong. About your comment in you not wanting to debate with me, well I took it as that. What else was I suppose to take it as?

So I have nothing against you, I admire that at such a young age you've learned so much about the sport and your interested in it. I thinks it's great and your learning but sometimes IMO you reach a bit too far with things. But that's just my opinion.
One thing I will advise you on is be real. By that I mean be who you are don't try to know and or pretend to know things you really don't cause sometimes people can tell. I'm telling you this because during that little thread a couple of people PM me some things they thought about you and how they see you sometimes. They PM me some of your posts that were pretty much word for word things I had said, like you copied and pasted my comments. So just be careful with that.
One last thing I gotta you for sending me this PM it takes a lot of balls and real character to do this.

I had to quote this because i coudn't get out of italic. Anyway i'll continue this i think this PM shows your lying backstabber, so you make out to someone your cool with them, and when the shit hits the fan and everyone gangs up on me.

You also join in and try and put more shit on me ? secondly i wasn't saying you turned on me get your facts straight. And i haven't been on any account whilst i've been off here why don't you get Saddo to check it ?

I never comeback here to gloat about JMM i've been a JMM fan for awhile, why don't you ask people on here ? i also never gloated i just gave JMM credit.

I never cheated on any game and who the hell are you to say anything ? was you there ? no you wasn't. I won a game of chess 2-1 i lost a game clearly, so now im a cheat ? and as for the SRR debate.

Why don't you ask Bilbo about that he stuck up for me in that debate, the thing we was doing was like a debating game its like a subject that gets chosen at school.

And your supposed to argue your point to the best of your ability. No matter what your beliefs are, just like if i was given Mike Tyson to defend, i would defend his point and argue it to win the debate in that paticular game. Even though i hate him, but i would never do that any other debate on the main board.

Again you was given false information i never lied about anything, debating in a debating game even if i don't fully agree with what im saying isn't a lie. And you had to do that in that paticular game, because thats the whole point of it and other people done it aswell.

I never made any mistakes Bilbo, CGM, went off on a deluded opinion. I won a game of Chess 2-1 and i beat Bilbo at a game of Checkers, and they insulted me calling me a cheat when im not. I didn't cause shit so again learn your facts.

Don't ever speak to me again infact don't even reply to this comment, i apologized to you because i felt it was the right thing to do. Because maybe i was a bit out of line, but your totally out of line here. Your clearly a fake person who makes out your friendly with someone, when your not then you try and gang up on me like this.

Im not victim and i don't try and make out to be i've made mistakes, but what your doing here is clearly BS. And in future i won't PM you or quote you or talk to you. I hate people like you who leads someone on, to be honest i thought you were a cool guy with boxing knowledge.

And i felt you was a genuine friend of mine on here, i didn't play any games and i often prasied you. And ask anyone on here if i talked bad about you in a PM, but whatever just go fuck yourself aswell. Your fucking fake who leads someone on and this coming from the guy, who said i could ask you anytime for advice what a fucking fake.

You've obviously not seen my comments ALLOVER these boards saying I've been playing the game all along with you.
Not sure what the PM is suppose to be but almost everything in that PM I've put on here in other threads.
What was the PM suppose to do?
You still aint said anything about copying my posts and you clearly aint stopped reaching/stretching out the posts.

I've never believed shit you said, you were fucking 4 when you said you knew Naz would be exposed I mean really?
Your comments and stories are inconsistent and AGAIN you've clearly ducked my comments in regards to you copying and pasting things I've said.

I played the game with you and again I aint a backstaber cause I was never there in the begining.
Kid I could give a fuck what you think about me and what you say.
You aint shit to me, your my understudy and wanted/want to be better then me and better then everyone which their aint nothing wrong with wanting to be the best but you bit off more then what you could chew.

Kid you aint shit the ONLY people you've fooled are the ones that havent been here long enough OR the ones who are not here often to read have read your bullshit posts...
If only these people could come here to read what a lot of people know about you.
But I've beeen since your start and no ones gonna tell me what I've seen here.
While you were researching fights on BoxRec & google trying to figure out numbers & results I was already replying to threads without needing the internet.
While you were trying to find downloads to fights from years ago I seen the fights live on the telie.

Many times you told me you hadn't seen a fight, then weeks later you'd say you saw the fight years ago but don't remember all the details
One week you had never seen Miguel Canto fight, the next 2 weeks you had him listed as one of the best defensive fighters ever

Your full of lies and you try to impress people. You try to hard to be accepted and you don't realize that people caught on to you.

You can eat a dick for all I care.

[CutMeMick]

Damn! So they didn't drive you to suicide then.. My predictions are so bad this season

[CutMeMick]

Am I the only whos jaw dropped while reading ICBs post where he says he didn't cheat at Chess or he didn't lie?

I mean really.

I hope ALL the people who said they feel bad about this read this cause clearly this is fucking nuts.

[leftylee]

Mick I think your taking this way out of proportion mate. Coming from an outsider it seems like your trying to bully ICB and taking it personal. I seriousley don't know what your getting at here. I always liked you Mick...but your taking this shit too serious.

Fact is, whatever ICB has done...lied...whatever. He contributes an awful fuckin lot to this site, a hell more than most other members. That's the main thing IMO.

[AdamGB]

To be honest Ice I'm dissapointed... When I read 'Just back Briefly To say...' I exected the thread to be more along the lines of this:

"Fuck y'all, all a y'all, if y'all don't like me, blow me, y'all gonna go keep fucking around with me and turn me back to the old me"

That would have been ice cold mate

This was less like 'forgot about dre' and more 'forgot about gay' :-/

Half Kidding here, I think you're a good poster, always liked your posts but private messages are just that - private. No need to splash them about the place

[CutMeMick]

Mick I think your taking this way out of proportion mate. Coming from an outsider it seems like your trying to bully ICB and taking it personal. I seriousley don't know what your getting at here. I always liked you Mick...but your taking this shit too serious.

Fact is, whatever ICB has done...lied...whatever. He contributes an awful fuckin lot to this site, a hell more than most other members. That's the main thing IMO.

Lee I take it serious because he's on the Main Board making shit up and trying to pass as if it's a fact.

ICB plenty of times tried to get at me and debate with me as if his word was the law and it's all that mattered. This isn't something that just springed up because of the whole chess thing.

This here between ICB & I has been on for about 2 yrs. or so, so don't think for a second this is something new.

We've got a lot of people who contribute reason ICB is noted is because he creates a thread about EVERY single boxing thought that crosses his mind. He used to create about 10-15 threads a day when he 1st came on here just posting fights.
Anyone can contribute that way, you could contribute making threads about anything anyone can.

What he didn't realize is that in making so many threads he would mix up comments and stories.

As for the File Sharing/fights those links can be found online.
He doesn't cap them he get's the links from other sites he's on anyone can get them if you just search for them.
El Gamo used to do the same thing when he was around but I belive El Gamo used to trade fights also.

Anyway, Lee if I'm taking this serious it's because I've seen this from the start and because ICB felt the need to post a PM where he thought he'd surprise me with something but if you read the PM I clearly say things I've said before.

[CutMeMick]

but private messages are just that - private. No need to splash them about the place

That's OK Adam.

Read the PM.
I clearly tell him he tries too hard and I clearly tell him he's been copying my posts and respoting them as his.

[leftylee]

Mick I think your taking this way out of proportion mate. Coming from an outsider it seems like your trying to bully ICB and taking it personal. I seriousley don't know what your getting at here. I always liked you Mick...but your taking this shit too serious.

Fact is, whatever ICB has done...lied...whatever. He contributes an awful fuckin lot to this site, a hell more than most other members. That's the main thing IMO.

Lee I take it serious because he's on the Main Board making shit up and trying to pass as if it's a fact.

ICB plenty of times tried to get at me and debate with me as if his word was the law and it's all that mattered. This isn't something that just springed up because of the whole chess thing.

This here between ICB & I has been on for about 2 yrs. or so, so don't think for a second this is something new.

We've got a lot of people who contribute reason ICB is noted is because he creates a thread about EVERY single boxing thought that crosses his mind. He used to create about 10-15 threads a day when he 1st came on here just posting fights.
Anyone can contribute that way, you could contribute making threads about anything anyone can.

What he didn't realize is that in making so many threads he would mix up comments and stories.

As for the File Sharing/fights those links can be found online.
He doesn't cap them he get's the links from other sites he's on anyone can get them if you just search for them.
El Gamo used to do the same thing when he was around but I belive El Gamo used to trade fights also.

Anyway, Lee if I'm taking this serious it's because I've seen this from the start and because ICB felt the need to post a PM where he thought he'd surprise me with something but if you read the PM I clearly say things I've said before.

I just sent you a PM Mick.

[Youngblood]

I do agree with the PM deal. I thought it was an unwritten law of the message board - PMs are kinda not supposed to be reprinted without permission of both parties. Otherwise, I'd prob. not trust anyone to ever do PMs with if I thought they were going to repost stuff. Although most of my PMs are little more then calling CFH a retard every time he beats one of my arcade scores.

[CutMeMick]

For those who are asking if ICB has really copied my posts and or things I've said here's one I tracked down and there's more let me try and find them.

So I noticed a while back when ICB 1st came on here that he used to repeat things that I would post. Like I remember I brought up Jose 'Maestrito' Lopez into light and said he would have beaten ODLH, Tito, Vargas & Ike and the next day he made a thread that read something like "I think Lopez would have beaten ODLH, Tito, Vargas & Ike on his best night he was something else. What do you guys think?? Opinions"

Run a search and you'll see the thread.

This had happened before where he would echo my comments to make it seem/appear like he said it. At 1st I was like nah! I think it's just me but then it happened again and again and the last time it happened I guess he couldn't really remember what I had said about Arguello that he took a shot in the dark but missed. He said watching Arguello fight was like watching Mozart... When in reality I had said wathing Alexis fight and throw punches must have been like watching Picasso paint as every punch would be like the precise stroke of Picassos brush onto the canvas. He said Mozart.

Anyway! I was going thru my "New replies to my posts" and found this. Keep in mind ICB just saw Pernells 1st fight a couple of nights ago when the 1st posts took place and heres what I replied.
(ICB had changed his name to OBPacstraighleft after losing a bet)

Pernell Whitaker was damn impressive in his first pro fight you could see he was something special even that early in his career.

SweetPea had shown skill and lots of talent since he was an amateur.
His flow in the ring was like water current movements that seemed synched but were all really going with the flow of the opponent.

Now heres what he posted today about Pernell. Look/sound familiar Not only that but he just saw the fight for the 1st time about 2 days ago from the top post and now hes saying hes been a fan since then.
Then being 2 days prior...

Whitaker's first pro fight got me hooked he looked so damn good and it looked like his body was made out of water i couldn't believe my eyes ever since then i have been a fan.

[Kev]

For those who are asking if ICB has really copied my posts and or things I've said here's one I tracked down and there's more let me try and find them.

So I noticed a while back when ICB 1st came on here that he used to repeat things that I would post. Like I remember I brought up Jose 'Maestrito' Lopez into light and said he would have beaten ODLH, Tito, Vargas & Ike and the next day he made a thread that read something like "I think Lopez would have beaten ODLH, Tito, Vargas & Ike on his best night he was something else. What do you guys think?? Opinions"

Run a search and you'll see the thread.

This had happened before where he would echo my comments to make it seem/appear like he said it. At 1st I was like nah! I think it's just me but then it happened again and again and the last time it happened I guess he couldn't really remember what I had said about Arguello that he took a shot in the dark but missed. He said watching Arguello fight was like watching Mozart... When in reality I had said wathing Alexis fight and throw punches must have been like watching Picasso paint as every punch would be like the precise stroke of Picassos brush onto the canvas. He said Mozart.

Anyway! I was going thru my "New replies to my posts" and found this. Keep in mind ICB just saw Pernells 1st fight a couple of nights ago when the 1st posts took place and heres what I replied.
(ICB had changed his name to OBPacstraighleft after losing a bet)

SweetPea had shown skill and lots of talent since he was an amateur.
His flow in the ring was like water current movements that seemed synched but were all really going with the flow of the opponent.

Now heres what he posted today about Pernell. Look/sound familiar Not only that but he just saw the fight for the 1st time about 2 days ago from the top post and now hes saying hes been a fan since then.
Then being 2 days prior...

Whitaker's first pro fight got me hooked he looked so damn good and it looked like his body was made out of water i couldn't believe my eyes ever since then i have been a fan.

Maybe Ice is just like some kind of human mind virus, absorbing the thoughts, ideas and conciousness of those around him like some kind of self learning super computer?

In the chess thread he said the following, 'But i don't know what it is but i can see many moves ahead. You know like you said that time in Checkers ? well thats it i can just see the moves.

I've always described Checkers as looking down a well, and Chess looking across the sea regarding Position, Moves, ETC'

Wise words indeed from Ice whose thoughts were echoed by Marion Tinsley, the world's greatest ever checkers player, who said the following '"Chess is like looking across an ocean. Checkers is like looking down a well'

[CutMeMick]

For those who are asking if ICB has really copied my posts and or things I've said here's one I tracked down and there's more let me try and find them.

So I noticed a while back when ICB 1st came on here that he used to repeat things that I would post. Like I remember I brought up Jose 'Maestrito' Lopez into light and said he would have beaten ODLH, Tito, Vargas & Ike and the next day he made a thread that read something like "I think Lopez would have beaten ODLH, Tito, Vargas & Ike on his best night he was something else. What do you guys think?? Opinions"

Run a search and you'll see the thread.

This had happened before where he would echo my comments to make it seem/appear like he said it. At 1st I was like nah! I think it's just me but then it happened again and again and the last time it happened I guess he couldn't really remember what I had said about Arguello that he took a shot in the dark but missed. He said watching Arguello fight was like watching Mozart... When in reality I had said wathing Alexis fight and throw punches must have been like watching Picasso paint as every punch would be like the precise stroke of Picassos brush onto the canvas. He said Mozart.

Anyway! I was going thru my "New replies to my posts" and found this. Keep in mind ICB just saw Pernells 1st fight a couple of nights ago when the 1st posts took place and heres what I replied.
(ICB had changed his name to OBPacstraighleft after losing a bet)




Now heres what he posted today about Pernell. Look/sound familiar Not only that but he just saw the fight for the 1st time about 2 days ago from the top post and now hes saying hes been a fan since then.
Then being 2 days prior...

Maybe Ice is just like some kind of human mind virus, absorbing the thoughts, ideas and conciousness of those around him like some kind of self learning super computer?

In the chess thread he said the following, 'But i don't know what it is but i can see many moves ahead. You know like you said that time in Checkers ? well thats it i can just see the moves.

I've always described Checkers as looking down a well, and Chess looking across the sea regarding Position, Moves, ETC'

Wise words indeed from Ice whose thoughts were echoed by Marion Tinsley, the world's greatest ever checkers player, who said the following '"Chess is like looking across an ocean. Checkers is like looking down a well'

You've gotta be kidding?
So those words he typed were actually words of the greatest chess player ever?

Holy shit! this is fucking nuts man.
This dude is on some serious shit here...

I can't believe this, I can't.... I....
I'm at a loss for words here.