The Saddoboxing Sanctioning body

[killersheep]

I like the beat the rank to get it.

Its like a wider net cast...similiar to how the The Ring Champion is crowned.

Yeah I like that idea too, but I also the the Rings inactivity policy... if a fighter has not fought for over a year with no fight scheduled then they are removed, how would we fill the vacant spot? Vote?

I say everyone moves up to fill the gap, and then we vote to pick a fight of two unranked fighters that's happening within 3 months of the vacancy opening to fill the number 10 spot, instead of just putting someone in.

We will also have to address weight class jumping.

[Spicoli]

I like the beat the rank to get it.

Its like a wider net cast...similiar to how the The Ring Champion is crowned.

Yeah I like that idea too, but I also the the Rings inactivity policy... if a fighter has not fought for over a year with no fight scheduled then they are removed, how would we fill the vacant spot? Vote?

Niiice one.Maybe a rematch clause Those who have already met a top ten but came up short (by decision) meet one another to fill void.

[Galaxy]

I'd like to put a motion on the floor for the initial rankings all titles will be vacant. We will rank the top 10 fighters in each weight class, when the #1 ranked fighter fights any other top 5 that will be the first title fight.

This is open to discussion

I'm happy to have all championships vacant but would prefer the current Ring champs to be ranked #1 to continue the linage.

I think if #1 fights any other top 4 should be the qualifier

So you're talking

Adamek at 200
Pavlik at 160
Hatton at 140
JMM at 135
Vazquez at 122
Calderon at 108

To all get a pass as #1 ranked, I have no problem with that.

Yeah pretty obvious choices there, another thing Id like is fighters will be able to be ranked in multiple weights e.g. say Mosley beats Forrest at 154 he would become ranked at 154 & 147 but if he goes over something like a year not fighting in one weight he'll be removed from that weight class... oh & I like the idea of holding multiple championships in different weights but I think there should be some sorta limit on defending the championship say 2 years without defending your title would be classed as relinquishing it!

[killersheep]

I'm happy to have all championships vacant but would prefer the current Ring champs to be ranked #1 to continue the linage.

I think if #1 fights any other top 4 should be the qualifier

So you're talking

Adamek at 200
Pavlik at 160
Hatton at 140
JMM at 135
Vazquez at 122
Calderon at 108

To all get a pass as #1 ranked, I have no problem with that.

Yeah pretty obvious choices there, another thing Id like is fighters will be able to be ranked in multiple weights e.g. say Mosley beats Forrest at 154 he would become ranked at 154 & 147 but if he goes over something like a year not fighting in one weight he'll be removed from that weight class... oh & I like the idea of holding multiple championships in different weights but I think there should be some sorta limit on defending the championship say 2 years without defending your title would be classed as relinquishing it!

Ok let's establish reasons for vacancy.

1. A fight announces his retirement he is immediately removed.

2. A fighter ranked #1 - #10 that doesn't fight in a weightclass for a year vacates that spot.

3. A Champion that doesn't defend in that weight class in 2 years vacates the title.

[Youngblood]

I'd like there to be 5 judges, and to have them remove the 2 most out of line scores or something to that effect with the scoring. So you are taking 3 judges scores from the 5, but eliminating 2 of them...like some other sports do.


Or some variation similar.

[ElTerribleMorales]

the fighters i consider champions in each weight division

Heavyweight-Wladimir Klitschko
Cruiserweight-Tomasz Adamek
LightHeavy-Bernard Hopkins
Super Middle-Mikkel Kessler
Middleweight-Kelly Pavlik
Jr.Middle- Vernon Forrest
Welterweight- Shane Mosley
Jr. Welter-Ricky Hatton
Lightweight-Juan Manuel Marquez
Jr.Lightweight-Jorge Linares
Featherweight-Chris John
Super Bantamweight-Israel Vazquez
Bantamweight-Gerry Penalosa
Jr.Bantam-Fernando Montiel/Vic Darchinyan (tied)
Flyweight-Nonito Donaire
Jr.Flyweight down- Ivan Calderon

[killersheep]

I'd like there to be 5 judges, and to have them remove the 2 most out of line scores or something to that effect with the scoring. So you are taking 3 judges scores from the 5, but eliminating 2 of them...like some other sports do.


Or some variation similar.

I like that idea and Spicoli's instant replay, but I plan on following actual fights with this, so once we get some funding we'll do both!!

[Spicoli]

So you're talking

Adamek at 200
Pavlik at 160
Hatton at 140
JMM at 135
Vazquez at 122
Calderon at 108

To all get a pass as #1 ranked, I have no problem with that.

Yeah pretty obvious choices there, another thing Id like is fighters will be able to be ranked in multiple weights e.g. say Mosley beats Forrest at 154 he would become ranked at 154 & 147 but if he goes over something like a year not fighting in one weight he'll be removed from that weight class... oh & I like the idea of holding multiple championships in different weights but I think there should be some sorta limit on defending the championship say 2 years without defending your title would be classed as relinquishing it!

Ok let's establish reasons for vacancy.

1. A fight announces his retirement he is immediately removed.

2. A fighter ranked #1 - #10 that doesn't fight in a weightclass for a year vacates that spot.

3. A Champion that doesn't defend in that weight class in 2 years vacates the title.

Good stuff,like the immediate removal.I think maybe the Champions vacancy should be same as top ten contender?Two years is a loooong time.Might he wait some top guys out ??

[killersheep]

Yeah pretty obvious choices there, another thing Id like is fighters will be able to be ranked in multiple weights e.g. say Mosley beats Forrest at 154 he would become ranked at 154 & 147 but if he goes over something like a year not fighting in one weight he'll be removed from that weight class... oh & I like the idea of holding multiple championships in different weights but I think there should be some sorta limit on defending the championship say 2 years without defending your title would be classed as relinquishing it!

Ok let's establish reasons for vacancy.

1. A fight announces his retirement he is immediately removed.

2. A fighter ranked #1 - #10 that doesn't fight in a weightclass for a year vacates that spot.

3. A Champion that doesn't defend in that weight class in 2 years vacates the title.

Good stuff,like the immediate removal.I think maybe the Champions vacancy should be same as top ten contender?Two years is a loooong time.Might he wait some top guys out ??

That's true, I'm on the fence on that one.

I would also like to establish a pool, the pool would be fighters recently removed from the rankings list they will have priority consideration for addition to the ranking list.

[Galaxy]

So you're talking

Adamek at 200
Pavlik at 160
Hatton at 140
JMM at 135
Vazquez at 122
Calderon at 108

To all get a pass as #1 ranked, I have no problem with that.

Yeah pretty obvious choices there, another thing Id like is fighters will be able to be ranked in multiple weights e.g. say Mosley beats Forrest at 154 he would become ranked at 154 & 147 but if he goes over something like a year not fighting in one weight he'll be removed from that weight class... oh & I like the idea of holding multiple championships in different weights but I think there should be some sorta limit on defending the championship say 2 years without defending your title would be classed as relinquishing it!

Ok let's establish reasons for vacancy.

1. A fight announces his retirement he is immediately removed.

2. A fighter ranked #1 - #10 that doesn't fight in a weightclass for a year vacates that spot.

3. A Champion that doesn't defend in that weight class in 2 years vacates the title.

It doesn't have to be that long, I just think its a suffucant amount of time. If a fighter hasn't fought at that weight for 2 years its more than likely they won't be back... I think after 1 year of not defending if a fight between the #1 & #2 is made then we could vote to see if that fight should be considered as a championship fight. If in 2 years of not defending then the title becomes vacant...

[killersheep]

Yeah pretty obvious choices there, another thing Id like is fighters will be able to be ranked in multiple weights e.g. say Mosley beats Forrest at 154 he would become ranked at 154 & 147 but if he goes over something like a year not fighting in one weight he'll be removed from that weight class... oh & I like the idea of holding multiple championships in different weights but I think there should be some sorta limit on defending the championship say 2 years without defending your title would be classed as relinquishing it!

Ok let's establish reasons for vacancy.

1. A fight announces his retirement he is immediately removed.

2. A fighter ranked #1 - #10 that doesn't fight in a weightclass for a year vacates that spot.

3. A Champion that doesn't defend in that weight class in 2 years vacates the title.

It doesn't have to be that long, I just think its a suffucant amount of time. If a fighter hasn't fought at that weight for 2 years its more than likely they won't be back... I think after 1 year of not defending if a fight between the #1 & #2 is made then we could vote to see if that fight should be considered as a championship fight. If in 2 years of not defending then the title becomes vacant...

That seems reasonable.

[Galaxy]

Ok let's establish reasons for vacancy.

1. A fight announces his retirement he is immediately removed.

2. A fighter ranked #1 - #10 that doesn't fight in a weightclass for a year vacates that spot.

3. A Champion that doesn't defend in that weight class in 2 years vacates the title.

Good stuff,like the immediate removal.I think maybe the Champions vacancy should be same as top ten contender?Two years is a loooong time.Might he wait some top guys out ??

That's true, I'm on the fence on that one.

I would also like to establish a pool, the pool would be fighters recently removed from the rankings list they will have priority consideration for addition to the ranking list.

I was thinking something similar to your pool idea, e.g.

In the Ring Rankings for 11 Jan 09 O'Neil Bell was removed from the cruiserweight ratings for inactivity... he would become our #11. Then in the last Ratings for 1 March 09 BJ Flores was removed (troy Ross entered but this wouldn't occur for us because he didn't beat a ranked fighter).

Flores could become #11 & Bell would move down to 12 & so forth.

As we go along more fighters would be added in this way, then if any of them fight they would change rank accordingly or if they are beaten by a unranked that fighter would take their rating moving them down. These fights between #11 down could be used to fill vacancies also!

[killersheep]

Good stuff,like the immediate removal.I think maybe the Champions vacancy should be same as top ten contender?Two years is a loooong time.Might he wait some top guys out ??

That's true, I'm on the fence on that one.

I would also like to establish a pool, the pool would be fighters recently removed from the rankings list they will have priority consideration for addition to the ranking list.

I was thinking something similar to your pool idea, e.g.

In the Ring Rankings for 11 Jan 09 O'Neil Bell was removed from the cruiserweight ratings for inactivity... he would become our #11. Then in the last Ratings for 1 March 09 BJ Flores was removed (troy Ross entered but this wouldn't occur for us because he didn't beat a ranked fighter).

Flores could become #11 & Bell would move down to 12 & so forth.

As we go along more fighters would be added in this way, then if any of them fight they would change rank accordingly or if they are beaten by a unranked that fighter would take their rating moving them down. These fights between #11 down could be used to fill vacancies also!

Well, I wasn't thinking about ranking them along with the rest, just have a group called the pool and when a vacancy opens we see what fights the people in the pool have and choose the best one to fight for the vacancy.
If someone is in the pool for a year they are removed just like the ranked fighters.

[Galaxy]

Ok let's establish reasons for vacancy.

1. A fight announces his retirement he is immediately removed.

2. A fighter ranked #1 - #10 that doesn't fight in a weightclass for a year vacates that spot.

3. A Champion that doesn't defend in that weight class in 2 years vacates the title.

It doesn't have to be that long, I just think its a suffucant amount of time. If a fighter hasn't fought at that weight for 2 years its more than likely they won't be back... I think after 1 year of not defending if a fight between the #1 & #2 is made then we could vote to see if that fight should be considered as a championship fight. If in 2 years of not defending then the title becomes vacant...

That seems reasonable.

Could even be #1 contender vs any of the top 4 (or 5)

[Galaxy]

That's true, I'm on the fence on that one.

I would also like to establish a pool, the pool would be fighters recently removed from the rankings list they will have priority consideration for addition to the ranking list.

I was thinking something similar to your pool idea, e.g.

In the Ring Rankings for 11 Jan 09 O'Neil Bell was removed from the cruiserweight ratings for inactivity... he would become our #11. Then in the last Ratings for 1 March 09 BJ Flores was removed (troy Ross entered but this wouldn't occur for us because he didn't beat a ranked fighter).

Flores could become #11 & Bell would move down to 12 & so forth.

As we go along more fighters would be added in this way, then if any of them fight they would change rank accordingly or if they are beaten by a unranked that fighter would take their rating moving them down. These fights between #11 down could be used to fill vacancies also!

Well, I wasn't thinking about ranking them along with the rest, just have a group called the pool and when a vacancy opens we see what fights the people in the pool have and choose the best one to fight for the vacancy.
If someone is in the pool for a year they are removed just like the ranked fighters.

No they don't have to be ranked with the others but fighters that are removed should be put in the pool as well as fighters on the cusp of the top 10.

Also if an unranked defeats a ranked would he take his rating or would we vote on that divisions top 10 again? Or do fighters only advance by beating guys ahead of them? Or do we do a monthly ratings listing any changes?