Lorissa Rivas

[JazMerkin]

"In boxing, it seems like anyone can turn pro". It seems to be easier to do in the US than in the UK.

I was thinkin the same thing. I was wonderin when you were gonna comment, you've been hovering dangerously half the day

[Kev]

I have to say thanks to TM because I plan to make Lorissa Rivas the first female boxer whose career I actually follow. Unlike others on here I actually quite like TM, but man lets face it when its you up against Roger Mayweather, there really is no comparisom regarding trainers. I mean you've trained Kid Thunder, he's trained arguably the best p4p boxer of the past 25 years. Actually I wouldn't mind seein Floyd come back to take on the Kid

But on a real TM, it sounds like Rivas is a young girl is being built towards somethin', whilst your wife is getting on & should probably hang it up. Unlike others I can't criticize you bein a trainer because I haven't seen you in action (& the reason he doesn't handle corner as he has said himself is because he doesn't handle them well), so keep doin what you want. & honestly what do you expect him to say about his wife's performance, seriously, he aint gonna go 'Leslie's a joke, we're done professionally'. Whilst this shit is funny, it is startin to take a bit of an ICB turn, like people have decided to run TM off the site now. Which I have a major problem with, because at the least we should run SaddoBoxer off first!

Hey Jaz, I agree with you on this as well mate, I like Trainer Monkey too, he's a nice guy, a good laugh and nothing wrong with being eccentric.

Regarding his fighters stable though, really, he needs to give it up. Neither Kid Thunder or his wife should be getting into a professional boxing ring, they simply arn't competitive at that level.

But there is no shame in that, if I stepped into a boxing ring with my diseased lungs, sloth like reflexes, frail bones and timid heart I'd do worse than both of them for sure, I'd never hear the bell for round two, but guess what, that is a large part of the reason for why I chosen NOT to take up professional boxing.

I mean if you box becuase you love it and want to improve, then maybe take up amatuer boxing. At least with only 4 x 2 min rounds, headguards, standing counts etc you are unilikey to get badly hurt, certainly I've never heard of anyone killed or seriously injured in amatuer boxing, but to have no boxing experience and then to turn PROFESSIONAL is just absolutely fucking nuts.

You wouldn't expect to be able to compete professionally in any other sport without previous experience so why would you assume you could in the toughest sport of all.

It's just ridiculous, can you imagine some guy who like to play on the pitch and putt at the weekend with his kids deciding he's good enough to enter one of the Golf Majors, how would he do realistically?

Or maybe someone who goes karting regularly suddenly being put behind the wheel of a Formula One car and lining up at the back of the grid for the Monaco Grand Prix.

It's just absurd to think these people could compete, the golfer would just humiliate himself on telly and the go kartist would likely get himself killed.


Nobody is saying TM, his wife or Thunder are failures as human beings because they arn't cut out for pro boxing, probably 90% of those of us on this site would do no better.

The difference is we have the sense to realise that we are unlikely to be able to stick on a pair of boxing gloves, step into a boxing ring and work our up to being a world champ, unless maybe it's on the Nintendo Wii.

Thing is, in other sports, you have to "qualify" to be on a pro level. In racing you have to make the race. In golf, chances are that you golfed your whole life throughout school and someone saw your talent and took you to the next level.

In boxing, it seems like anyone can turn pro. Which is why Kid thunder actually has wins on his record. Looking at him, to think that he ACTUALLY beat two other fighters should be even scarier than his 14 losses or however many there are.

I just don't understand when kid thunder says he has love for the sport, yadda yadda, yet TM told us he barely trained and ate donuts. That's a lot of love and determination to succeed. I loved the sport of baseball throughout my whole life, which is why i played 11 of 12 months a year. I didn't talk about it on a message board, or make youtube videos of how my fastball reaches 90mph (it doesn't.. just an example ).

Actually it's even much tougher than that. In the UK at least in order to become a golf professional you actually have to take exams and do courses in addition to having obvious golfing talent.

It's basically a three year degree course.

It seems that boxing has the lowest entry requirements of any pro sport, which is bizarre considering its also possibly the most dangerous.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Jaz.

Bilbo. What would qualify you to punch someone in the face?

[OumaFan]

trying to run off TM is the worst idea ever, if TM leaves there's basically just the arcade and the calendar.

[RP33]

Hey Jaz, I agree with you on this as well mate, I like Trainer Monkey too, he's a nice guy, a good laugh and nothing wrong with being eccentric.

Regarding his fighters stable though, really, he needs to give it up. Neither Kid Thunder or his wife should be getting into a professional boxing ring, they simply arn't competitive at that level.

But there is no shame in that, if I stepped into a boxing ring with my diseased lungs, sloth like reflexes, frail bones and timid heart I'd do worse than both of them for sure, I'd never hear the bell for round two, but guess what, that is a large part of the reason for why I chosen NOT to take up professional boxing.

I mean if you box becuase you love it and want to improve, then maybe take up amatuer boxing. At least with only 4 x 2 min rounds, headguards, standing counts etc you are unilikey to get badly hurt, certainly I've never heard of anyone killed or seriously injured in amatuer boxing, but to have no boxing experience and then to turn PROFESSIONAL is just absolutely fucking nuts.

You wouldn't expect to be able to compete professionally in any other sport without previous experience so why would you assume you could in the toughest sport of all.

It's just ridiculous, can you imagine some guy who like to play on the pitch and putt at the weekend with his kids deciding he's good enough to enter one of the Golf Majors, how would he do realistically?

Or maybe someone who goes karting regularly suddenly being put behind the wheel of a Formula One car and lining up at the back of the grid for the Monaco Grand Prix.

It's just absurd to think these people could compete, the golfer would just humiliate himself on telly and the go kartist would likely get himself killed.


Nobody is saying TM, his wife or Thunder are failures as human beings because they arn't cut out for pro boxing, probably 90% of those of us on this site would do no better.

The difference is we have the sense to realise that we are unlikely to be able to stick on a pair of boxing gloves, step into a boxing ring and work our up to being a world champ, unless maybe it's on the Nintendo Wii.

Thing is, in other sports, you have to "qualify" to be on a pro level. In racing you have to make the race. In golf, chances are that you golfed your whole life throughout school and someone saw your talent and took you to the next level.

In boxing, it seems like anyone can turn pro. Which is why Kid thunder actually has wins on his record. Looking at him, to think that he ACTUALLY beat two other fighters should be even scarier than his 14 losses or however many there are.

I just don't understand when kid thunder says he has love for the sport, yadda yadda, yet TM told us he barely trained and ate donuts. That's a lot of love and determination to succeed. I loved the sport of baseball throughout my whole life, which is why i played 11 of 12 months a year. I didn't talk about it on a message board, or make youtube videos of how my fastball reaches 90mph (it doesn't.. just an example ).

Actually it's even much tougher than that. In the UK at least in order to become a golf professional you actually have to take exams and do courses in addition to having obvious golfing talent.

It's basically a three year degree course.

It seems that boxing has the lowest entry requirements of any pro sport, which is bizarre considering its also possibly the most dangerous.

That's intense.. I went to a high school with a number of current pro athletes. Without mentioning any names (but to prove i am not pulling an "ICB" i will PM you their names if you'd like ), I was in class with a few and lets just say they wouldn't pass many courses.. If it wasn't for scholarships and help from teachers (basically the fact that the teachers knew they were really good athletes and wouldn't hurt them academically to stop them from playing) they wouldn't get too far.

In boxing there should be some sort of criteria. If you have a decent amature record, then you're allowed to turn pro. If you didn't fight as an amature, considering there are a number of above average pros who haven't, then you have to fight someone with a commision representative, or something equal to that, present. I think that would at least be good for a start.

Now, cue the "this is taking boxing away from the middle class.. the people who have love for the sport BLAH BLAH FUCKING BLAH"..

[RP33]

trying to run off TM is the worst idea ever, if TM leaves there's basically just the arcade and the calendar.

LOL

TM isn't going anywhere. I'm quite positive of that.

[OumaFan]

Could somebody let me know she's allright,my fighter was fine,she went to watch the other fights,and went to dinner after. Word I got was Rivas didnt look great herself,and Id just like to get word that she's OK.
They both apparantly fought tooth and nails tonight,and I would just like word that Lorissa is OK,I know my girl is OK so Id like word on the other girl please.

Wow this guy is hilarious. Rivas is fine. As a matter of fact she's tentatively scheduled to fight in two weeks. Here is the audio link for anyone who wants to hear the live commentary and interview after the fight was over.
Rivas Fight: Audio Only
Thanks TM/Tilt A Whirl for giving us so much publicity with these newly created forum topics. Maybe we need to hire you as our marketing strategist.

I thought Lorissa's people asked for an immediate rematch?

[stallion1]

I have to say thanks to TM because I plan to make Lorissa Rivas the first female boxer whose career I actually follow. Unlike others on here I actually quite like TM, but man lets face it when its you up against Roger Mayweather, there really is no comparisom regarding trainers. I mean you've trained Kid Thunder, he's trained arguably the best p4p boxer of the past 25 years. Actually I wouldn't mind seein Floyd come back to take on the Kid

Thanks a lot JazMerkin. It means a lot. As of now, we're just trying to build and market her slowly. What most people (including trainer monkey/tilt) don't understand is that her lost from 2 1/2 years ago was widely attributed to dehydration. She strained to make the weight at 140. As a matter of fact, she was still peeling in her hotel room trying to make weight before the weigh-in. As a result of being weakened from the weight, she was stopped by her opponent. In addition she had no corner for that fight. Now with her fighting at 154 and both Jeff and Roger Mayweather in her corner, she's more prepared physically and mentally for the fight game.
For those who wanted to see a picture of Leslie and Lorissa fighting in the ring, you can click the link below. It's from today's newspaper in Trinidad.
Hernandez training in T&T for Salandy’s vacant title | The Trinidad Guardian

[Tilt A Whirl]

Could somebody let me know she's allright,my fighter was fine,she went to watch the other fights,and went to dinner after. Word I got was Rivas didnt look great herself,and Id just like to get word that she's OK.
They both apparantly fought tooth and nails tonight,and I would just like word that Lorissa is OK,I know my girl is OK so Id like word on the other girl please.

Wow this guy is hilarious. Rivas is fine. As a matter of fact she's tentatively scheduled to fight in two weeks. Here is the audio link for anyone who wants to hear the live commentary and interview after the fight was over.
Rivas Fight: Audio Only
Thanks TM/Tilt A Whirl for giving us so much publicity with these newly created forum topics. Maybe we need to hire you as our marketing strategist.

I thought Lorissa's people asked for an immediate rematch?

Not imediate,Leslie is fighting in the Bahamas and Lorissa is probably fighting in Trinidad again,then they get to play with each other again.
Oh and stallion,I suspected you were part of Rivas's team,thanks for confirming it.
Please continue to make tactical errors in public,they are incredibly helpful

[stallion1]

Wow this guy is hilarious. Rivas is fine. As a matter of fact she's tentatively scheduled to fight in two weeks. Here is the audio link for anyone who wants to hear the live commentary and interview after the fight was over.
Rivas Fight: Audio Only
Thanks TM/Tilt A Whirl for giving us so much publicity with these newly created forum topics. Maybe we need to hire you as our marketing strategist.

I thought Lorissa's people asked for an immediate rematch?

Not imediate,Leslie is fighting in the Bahamas and Lorissa is probably fighting in Trinidad again,then they get to play with each other again.
Oh and stallion,I suspected you were part of Rivas's team,thanks for confirming it.
Please continue to make tactical errors in public,they are incredibly helpful

No, it's no error; I am part of her team. No secret there. What you need to do is stop lying on these boards. We never asked for a rematch with Leslie. What would be the point? If it was close maybe so. But that fight wasn't even competitive. It's such a shame they you keep pushing your wife in such a matter. Leslie was very kind, respectful, and has a pleasant personality. Lorissa found her to be quite nice. Yet, you on the other hand seem to be living a boxing dream of yours through her. It's quite sad to see you push your fighters to limits that you yourself have never achieved. I wish Leslie the best in her future endeavors.

[OumaFan]

TM I know I'm not in the buis but I just can't get my head around this rematch concept.

OK assuming the stoppage was BS, it was really a close fight, the media reports are BS, the corner was in on it, it was some giant Trinidadian miscarriage of justice so to speak, then why would Rivas' team even want a rematch?

I mean I could understand if they had a prospect and she was on live TV, on Friday Night Fights for example, and she went life and death with an 0-3 fighter and had to rely on a questionable stoppage to win then maybe, maybe, they might want a rematch if they thought their fighter just had a bad night and they believed she could redeem herself.

But there are only like 17 people in the non-Trinidadian world who even knew this fight took place and like 15 of those people post here. So it doesn't seem worth the time, effort, and risk does it?

And assuming Rivas really did dominate, then the rematch makes no sense at all right?

Are Rivas' people really that honorable/grossly incompetent?

[Kev]

Wow this guy is hilarious. Rivas is fine. As a matter of fact she's tentatively scheduled to fight in two weeks. Here is the audio link for anyone who wants to hear the live commentary and interview after the fight was over.
Rivas Fight: Audio Only
Thanks TM/Tilt A Whirl for giving us so much publicity with these newly created forum topics. Maybe we need to hire you as our marketing strategist.

I thought Lorissa's people asked for an immediate rematch?

Not imediate,Leslie is fighting in the Bahamas and Lorissa is probably fighting in Trinidad again,then they get to play with each other again.
Oh and stallion,I suspected you were part of Rivas's team,thanks for confirming it.
Please continue to make tactical errors in public,they are incredibly helpful

So you think Rivas will honour this promise for a rematch then Monkey? Is it like when Apollo got the win over Rocky Balboa but the people clamoured that the wong man got the decision?

A bit different here of course, becuase Rivas opponent's corner threw in the towel to save their fighter from more pain and the media announced that she clearly had the most dominant and emphatic win of the night, but apparently there's an inkling of doubt in Larissa's team and they think the sentiment is she got lucky on the night.....

I mean I've never heard of a prospect rematching an 0-4 fighter they just KO'd in order to prove something but then I don't know woman's boxing like you. Of course if she's fighting in the Bahama's first she will be 0-5 before the rematch comes around, as we all know you can't win a fair decision in the Bahamas if your not a Bahaman.

Why not go back to toughman/women comps TM, at least then she has a great chance of winning and will probably make just as much money.

[Tilt A Whirl]

I thought Lorissa's people asked for an immediate rematch?

Not imediate,Leslie is fighting in the Bahamas and Lorissa is probably fighting in Trinidad again,then they get to play with each other again.
Oh and stallion,I suspected you were part of Rivas's team,thanks for confirming it.
Please continue to make tactical errors in public,they are incredibly helpful

So you think Rivas will honour this promise for a rematch then Monkey? Is it like when Apollo got the win over Rocky Balboa but the people clamoured that the wong man got the decision?

A bit different here of course, becuase Rivas opponent's corner threw in the towel to save their fighter from more pain and the media announced that she clearly had the most dominant and emphatic win of the night, but apparently there's an inkling of doubt in Larissa's team and they think the sentiment is she got lucky on the night.....

I mean I've never heard of a prospect rematching an 0-4 fighter they just KO'd in order to prove something but then I don't know woman's boxing like you. Of course if she's fighting in the Bahama's first she will be 0-5 before the rematch comes around, as we all know you can't win a fair decision in the Bahamas if your not a Bahaman.

Why not go back to toughman/women comps TM, at least then she has a great chance of winning and will probably make just as much money.

Why wont they,they said they want it, we want it.
Lets make sure its for absolute real this time,because not much of anyone believes it was for real this time.
It was class on her peoples part to ask for a rematch to settle it once and for all,and I give nothing but credit to them for that.
Oh,and what Mr Mayweather camp neglected to mention about there being alot of blood,it was an open air stadium,and it was raining,even a little would look like alot. I checked her trunks,there was only a couple of smallish stains on them.Most of what was seen was from the rain spreading it around.
Sorry again for injecting reality in to fantasy.
So we'll see them in Trinidad again,this time with our own corner.
Go back to your normally scheduled bullshiting

[stallion1]

I don't know what happened to my earlier post but let me state this again. We never asked for a rematch. There's no point to it. I have no idea why her crazed trainer is spreading lies. We have no problem fighting Leslie again; but why fight someone that you already beat?... Easily too.
Tilt makes me nervous with the way he keeps throwing her into these fights. Leslie is a very nice person but I'm really starting to believe that her husband is trying to live his boxing dream through her. All jokes aside that's kind of scary. Maybe if Leslie gets a few victories under her belt we'll consider it. Until then we're moving forward with other fights.
Oh shout out to JazMerkin. Thanks for the kind words. We appreciate the support. We need more followers of women's boxing.

[stallion1]

Here is a picture of the fight. Does it look close?