Why is Berto getting so much heat for holding?

[Taeth]

Mosley/Margarito fight is a dumb comparison IMO, Margarito was the bigger man, and Mosley didn't hold for most of the fight, and with that said, Mosley banged out a TKO, Berto never even put a dent on Urango, say what you will but Berto's power is seriously overrated, his shots look big, but rarely hurt a REAL opponent seriously

Margarito and MOsley weighed the same amount, Margarito was only taller that night, and certainly not stronger. I think Mosley was smart in doing it, I just don't see why Berto should be criticized except by the fact that like somebody said that he could have done anything against Urango he wanted to.

How come Berto hurt Collazo while MOsley didn't? How come he stopped David Estrada when Mosley didn't? He's foughten guys with great chins of late.

[P4PChamp]

Urango did the same thing round after round, from round 1 to 12. He did not change his game plan at all, not even sure he could. Berto should have been able to have danced circles around Urango but was content to throw a couple of punches and hold. Urango was all too happy to oblige for most of the fight. Maybe if he would have made a better effort to look like he was trying to break away from the clinches and do work the ref would have been forced to deduct points from Berto. Yeah, there are other fighters who hold but when you are saying things like Berto does such as the sky is the limit, and bring on anyone, that is a poor way of showing you are ready and getting anyone to pay to see you fight.

There is no way I would ever pay to see this guy fight. There has been talk on here that he might face Clottey if he loses to Cotto, and I think Cotto wins. However, I highly doubt his management want any part of a strong welterweight like Clottey even after a loss. I think Clottey would walk right through Berto and beat him down.

[Spicoli]

Its one thing that had frustrated me the most as Berto has gone on....and its not a matter of him stepping up & fighting a muscle bound ranked guy with bombs in Urango...he did it against Estrada and he pulled it against the naturally smaller light hitter in Stevie Forbes.He literally efforts to get in and clinch...not as a strategy for setting up offense,or to recoup from being stung,it almost seems like he is doing it to think and/or to catch a breath.

I honestly do not think he knows his 'identity' as a fighter.Is a fast puncher and can flury in combo and move off...and at other times he loads up with one or two big shots and then just falls in holding.Said it during the rbr and may sound odd but His stiff legs do his quick hands a disservice.He was leaning forward so heavy in the Estrada fight,legs rigid then and now.

[Taeth]

I agree with most of that, but he was actually moving really well, I am not sure how well he can transition that movement into offense, but I think thats partly because he keeps his stance too wide, sort of like Pacquiao, it makes it hard to move away then come forward all of the sudden unless you are very coordinated and skilled like Hopkins or Mayweather and you can leap in, and deny all conventional wisdom. He needs to shorten his stance for a few reasons, it seems too wide for him to have proper balance, he can't move as effectively, and he doesn't sink into his punches anyways.

[Mar]

These guys are going to do whatever they can get away with and still win. B-hop, hatton, mayweather most of these guys have thier own little things they do that breaks the rules. But while people are bitching about it they should be aware that they do and be prepared, once these guys are in there, it should be no crying no excuses. They try and catch the major stuff the rest is up to you. People can talk about why you lost but all that the record books, bank accts, and promoters care about is that you lost.

[luvfightgame]

I think Berto needs a new trainer. Not because there's anything wrong with the one he's got, but he doesn't listen in between rounds.

He needs a trainer that keeps him focused and away from his dad at the fight. Berto kept looking back and talking to his dad more than he listened to his corner. It was ridiculous. I would have told dad to take over or stop giving instructions. He needs a trainer that will do that....

[Quinito]

I have no problem with it. But he wasn't clinching properly. It was his biggest flaw of the night. A good elite would take advantage it.