Yes or No Poll regarding Catchweights

[Kev]

If a potential mega fight betweeen two fighters from different weight classes can be made only at catchweight, with neither fighter willing to go to the other fighter's weight class because he is too small or too big would you rather they fought at an agreed catchweight so we can enjoy the spectacle and ultimate goal of our sport to see the best fight the best or would you rather the fight did not take place at all than to see the traditions of weight classes so violated?


Also a secondary question to ponder. Why is it when two fighters in different weight classes could meet, its always assumed that its the little guys responsibility to move UP and not for the other fighter to move down? Is not the responsibility upon the two EQUAL? If Manny is regarded as universally p4p number 1 then why should any weight agreement involve him being a 'man' and moving up, and not the other guys being 'men' and giving up some weight?

And if the bigger fighter does not believe he can safely lose the weight, or that by doing so he gives up too much, what is actually wrong with them meeting halfway to ensure the fight still happens?

[BoxingGorilla]

If a potential mega fight betweeen two fighters from different weight classes can be made only at catchweight, with neither fighter willing to go to the other fighter's weight class because he is too small or too big would you rather they fought at an agreed catchweight or would you rather the fight did not take place at all?

Honestly... I''d rather it not take place.

I would like to see Crusierweight and Super Middleweight go away. Too many choices.

Getting rid of Jr. Batamweight and Jr. Flyweight wouldn't be a bad idea either.


Sorry. I clicked edit instead of quote.

[Kev]

If a potential mega fight betweeen two fighters from different weight classes can be made only at catchweight, with neither fighter willing to go to the other fighter's weight class because he is too small or too big would you rather they fought at an agreed catchweight or would you rather the fight did not take place at all?

Honestly... I''d rather it not take place.

I would like to see Crusierweight and Super Middleweight go away. Too many choices.

Getting rid of Jr. Batamweight and Jr. Flyweight wouldn't be a bad idea either.


Sorry. I clicked edit instead of quote.

So you think it's more important to have set weight classes than for fighters to fight at the best weight?

In the case of the supermiddleweight division for example you'd rather guys like Bute, Froch, Kessler, Andrade et al were to fight at a less than ideal weight class, where their potential is not fully realised and we wouldn't get to appreciate them fighting at 100% than you would have to put up with another weight class?

What I'm saying is what's more important. The best fighters fighting at their best weights to give us the best and most competitive fights or to force fighters to fit in with fixed weight classes?

I mean who is the sport for ultimately, the boxers and fans and having the best fights, or traditions and weight class rules?

Don't you think its putting the cart in front of the horse?

And honestly, if Cotto versus Pacquaio happens at 143 you won't be watching it?

[paddy448]

to be honest if it gets a fight made that i want to see and none of the fighters are at too much of a disadvantage then i think its ok

[The Congressman]

I voted YES. But it should be a non-title.

[paddy448]

I voted YES. But it should be a non-title.

i agree

[BoxingGorilla]

Honestly... I''d rather it not take place.

I would like to see Crusierweight and Super Middleweight go away. Too many choices.

Getting rid of Jr. Batamweight and Jr. Flyweight wouldn't be a bad idea either.

So you think it's more important to have set weight classes than for fighters to fight at the best weight?

In the case of the supermiddleweight division for example you'd rather guys like Bute, Froch, Kessler, Andrade et al were to fight at a less than ideal weight class, where their potential is not fully realised and we wouldn't get to appreciate them fighting at 100% than you would have to put up with another weight class?.

I think Cruiserweight helped ruin the heavyweight divison. It made it okay for all the heavys to be overweight and sloppy. Besides, The Cruisers all seem to wind up as heavyweights eventually. Great fights are lost when fighters hide between lightheavy and heavy weights.

As far as Kessler and them... They could fight at 168. Lightheavy is in the runnin' for best divison in boxiing history

I mean who is the sport for ultimately, the boxers and fans and having the best fights, or traditions and weight class rules?

Don't you think its putting the cart in front of the horse?

And honestly, if Cotto versus Pacquaio happens at 143 you won't be watching it?

LOL Oh, I'll watch it!

[BoxingGorilla]

And honestly, if Cotto versus Pacquaio happens at 143 you won't be watching it?

LOL Oh, I'll watch it!

It's like when two of your buddies are about to fight. At first you remind them that it's a bad idea, but at some point you say,

"Let 'em fight."

[Hunter]

I am fine with the catchweights if it helps get great fighters in the ring together. Who cares if it is 143 or 147, as long as you are going to see some great fighters in the ring....The bonus of the catchweight is it basically says F-you to the sanctioning bodies who are useless corrupt a-holes anyway.

[Mar]

I voted hell no, stop letting these guys pansy around avoiding fights. They should for one have a purse for these fights winner gets a lot looser gets a little. No 1 should always be fighting no 2 etc and so forth. No more people like hopkins taking up a spot in a weightclass looking for the biggest money fight anywhere across the board instead of just letting dawson get in that old ass. All these catchweights are freakin silly. Next guys will be wanting to make fights with one guy on his knees and shit to try and make it fair, then the old one arm behind the back thing wont be far behind. Wanna know why boxing was better back in the day look at all the silly shit they do now and charge us for compared to what they did back then....which was just fight. No Bs 24/7 crap needed to get people to watch.

[bzkfn]

This fight can be at a catchweight, but again, unless both have the opportunity to meet at the 147 limit, the fight should not be for the Welterweight title.

[Bilbo's Mom]

This fight can be at a catchweight, but again, unless both have the opportunity to meet at the 147 limit, the fight should not be for the Welterweight title.

Who cares if its for a title or not?

These guys (Manny, Cotto, Mosely, Oscar, Floyd, Marquez etc) have all conquered multiple weight classes and won mulitple world titles.

They are the elite fighters of our age and now the ultimate challenge for them is to fight each other, not for more 'belts'

These fights between p4p stars who have won world titles across divisions are BIGGER than the weight class they take place in and the belts they fight for.

It's not about world titles to these guys now, its about fighting the very best.

It's the HIGHEST GOAL of boxing. The weight classes and belts (appalling as they are) exist to provide us with a framework in which to find the best fighters but once they are p4p greats they transcend that.

The fights most fans want to see, the fights the fighters themselves want are the fights against other p4p champions.

As they all don't weigh the same one fighter fighting in another fighters weight class disadvantages himself and as we no longer care in these instances about weight classes or belts (the fight is bigger than this now) they compromise and meet in the middle.

It's totally fair, it's totally acceptable.

[TheDemolitionDan]

There should be no catchweights anymore, there are 17 divisions now, if you can't fight within the limit of one of these 17 then you shouldn't fight at all. I don't want to see Darchinyan and Klitschko fight at a "catchweight."

[LEGION]

There should be no catchweights anymore, there are 17 divisions now, if you can't fight within the limit of one of these 17 then you shouldn't fight at all. I don't want to see Darchinyan and Klitschko fight at a "catchweight."

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