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    Default Re: Is Manny Pacquiao Bad For Boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
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    Very much agreed on all points....

    The guy is worth every dollar to see him in action, he goes all out in the ring, he is willing to fight anyone...

    As for the catchweights I am not a big fan of them and wish they would not happen but as long as no title is involved and the fights are worth the price of a ticket then why not I guess...

    People have to realize that Manny is a 135lb fighter that everyone is coming to him for the bouts he is not seeking them out....Why step into the lions den and allow bigger disadvantages?
    cuz thats what all the greats in history have done
    Who? Who are these greats? Armstrong?, Jones? please inform us...

    Who else has gone from 106lbs to fight at 142lbs?

    Who else has titles in 5 weight classes at the moment and as many lineial titles? Who has claimed as many ring titles?

    even if they have done one of the above who else has done all of the above?

    The man has done his job and well he has nothing to prove by fighting under everyone elses terms
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post


    Very much agreed on all points....

    The guy is worth every dollar to see him in action, he goes all out in the ring, he is willing to fight anyone...

    As for the catchweights I am not a big fan of them and wish they would not happen but as long as no title is involved and the fights are worth the price of a ticket then why not I guess...

    People have to realize that Manny is a 135lb fighter that everyone is coming to him for the bouts he is not seeking them out....Why step into the lions den and allow bigger disadvantages?
    cuz thats what all the greats in history have done
    Who? Who are these greats? Armstrong?, Jones? please inform us...

    Who else has gone from 106lbs to fight at 142lbs?

    Who else has titles in 5 weight classes at the moment and as many lineial titles? Who has claimed as many ring titles?

    even if they have done one of the above who else has done all of the above?

    The man has done his job and well he has nothing to prove by fighting under everyone elses terms


    im waiting for the response on mr daxx questions... or else as someone just mention put on the gloves and go knock pacs ass out..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post


    Very much agreed on all points....

    The guy is worth every dollar to see him in action, he goes all out in the ring, he is willing to fight anyone...

    As for the catchweights I am not a big fan of them and wish they would not happen but as long as no title is involved and the fights are worth the price of a ticket then why not I guess...

    People have to realize that Manny is a 135lb fighter that everyone is coming to him for the bouts he is not seeking them out....Why step into the lions den and allow bigger disadvantages?
    cuz thats what all the greats in history have done
    Who? Who are these greats? Armstrong?, Jones? please inform us...

    Who else has gone from 106lbs to fight at 142lbs?

    Who else has titles in 5 weight classes at the moment and as many lineial titles? Who has claimed as many ring titles?

    even if they have done one of the above who else has done all of the above?

    The man has done his job and well he has nothing to prove by fighting under everyone elses terms

    Oscar moved up from superfeather to middleweight and won world titles in each divison. Pac hasnt, not to mention Oscar wasnt always fighting guys on their way out.

    Any guy who has moved up in weight has moved into their opponents division and thats why they get props. How can anyone get props if they are beating up on a weight drained corpse. If Manny wants to do it at all he should do it properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
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    Always going to be fans and haters of a fighter. I started liking Pac after the Diaz and De La Hoya fights; never disliked him but wasn't pleased JMM lost twice to him; so I'm not really a fanboy.

    Personally I can't help but think he is an absolute asset to the game. When he climbs through those ropes that is one serious dude and is worth paying $$$ to watch{which is saying something} This 143 Cotto thing is f#cked tbh, but isn't it his promoter really who's trying to do this? And if Cotto and his charge take the fight just for the $$$ at a detrimental weight, then maybe they are bad for boxing. I can think of alot worse for boxing than Manny imo.

    Very much agreed on all points....

    The guy is worth every dollar to see him in action, he goes all out in the ring, he is willing to fight anyone...

    As for the catchweights I am not a big fan of them and wish they would not happen but as long as no title is involved and the fights are worth the price of a ticket then why not I guess...

    People have to realize that Manny is a 135lb fighter that everyone is coming to him for the bouts he is not seeking them out....Why step into the lions den and allow bigger disadvantages?
    cuz thats what all the greats in history have done
    Agreed. Even Duran step up to fight Leonard, Hearns, and Hagler. If Pac is getting embarrassed by Cotto he can just pull a No Mas.

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    This is a fun thread to follow lol. Granted I think GB has some dislike for Pac and i wonder if he's trying to incite a riot, but I've seen worse threads. I'm just thankful Xanexboxer isn't here clucking around like a mother hen.

    It's got to be better than rehashing the old Wlad/Haye Hate Each Other; Are the Heavyweights in Trouble?; Woe Is Me Hatton Got Pummeled What Now?; and the always entertaining but redundant Mayweather is a Cock threads

    If GB had made a "Margarito is Great for Boxing" thread then I'd of hammered him for being a stooge.
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    Default Re: Is Manny Pacquiao Bad For Boxing?

    I didn't think Cotto had even talked about fighting Pacman prior to this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    I didn't think Cotto had even talked about fighting Pacman prior to this?
    he never says who he'd like to fight, it's always "that is the job of my promoter to decide who i'll fight next"

    and didn't FaggotBoxer put an article about Pacquiao telling Arum that he wanted Cotto next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Manny "Pacman" Pacquaio has greatly divided the boxing community into different factions. Those for him and against him. Many of those fans in his camp think he's the greatest thing since slice bread. And then there are those fans that just don't like him for whatever reason.

    This is a serious question because of many boxing fans have called Manny Pacquiao a pussy and coward for wanting to fight Cotto at a catchweight, which would be his first. To be fair I never considered the Oscar fight a catchweight because you can't expect someone to jump 3 weight classes from 135 to fight you when you called him out and it was at the 147 ww limit. So there are endless discussions about the Pacman for or against him in every boxing forum.

    So is Manny Pacquiao bad for boxing? Would boxing be better if Manny Pacquiao never picked up the sport?

    Discuss.
    Certainly not. He is not at all bad for boxing. Anyone who is as popular as Manny can only be good for the sport. The problem is he should either stick to his weight classes or move up to fight other people where they belong.

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    Default Re: Is Manny Pacquiao Bad For Boxing?

    I guess Manny won't be winning the 2009 ESPY afterall because of this thread. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Manny "Pacman" Pacquaio has greatly divided the boxing community into different factions. Those for him and against him. Many of those fans in his camp think he's the greatest thing since slice bread. And then there are those fans that just don't like him for whatever reason.

    This is a serious question because of many boxing fans have called Manny Pacquiao a pussy and coward for wanting to fight Cotto at a catchweight, which would be his first. To be fair I never considered the Oscar fight a catchweight because you can't expect someone to jump 3 weight classes from 135 to fight you when you called him out and it was at the 147 ww limit. So there are endless discussions about the Pacman for or against him in every boxing forum.

    So is Manny Pacquiao bad for boxing? Would boxing be better if Manny Pacquiao never picked up the sport?

    Discuss.
    Of course it wouldn't be better off with out manny Pacquiao, he's a nice guy with a pleasing style who likes to stay active and take big fights and he has achieved a lot. That doesn't mean that his actions can't and won't be scrutinised or criticised though and I get the feeling that this thread is a knee jerk reaction from you to that. Sort of trolling (as has been said) I guess.

    Trying to make us stop and appreciate the guy for the brilliant boxer that he is isn't going to stop us from telling a few home truths when it comes to his recent business/negotiation actions I'm afraid...

    and yeah... ODLH was at Welterweight... not a catchweight... so he gets credit for beating him... only at Welterweight and not at his normal Light Middle. Same as if he beats Cotto at a catchweight then he just gets credit for beating him at a catchweight... not Welterweight. It really is that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Manny "Pacman" Pacquaio has greatly divided the boxing community into different factions. Those for him and against him. Many of those fans in his camp think he's the greatest thing since slice bread. And then there are those fans that just don't like him for whatever reason.

    This is a serious question because of many boxing fans have called Manny Pacquiao a pussy and coward for wanting to fight Cotto at a catchweight, which would be his first. To be fair I never considered the Oscar fight a catchweight because you can't expect someone to jump 3 weight classes from 135 to fight you when you called him out and it was at the 147 ww limit. So there are endless discussions about the Pacman for or against him in every boxing forum.

    So is Manny Pacquiao bad for boxing? Would boxing be better if Manny Pacquiao never picked up the sport?

    Discuss.
    Of course it wouldn't be better off with out manny Pacquiao, he's a nice guy with a pleasing style who likes to stay active and take big fights and he has achieved a lot. That doesn't mean that his actions can't and won't be scrutinised or criticised though and I get the feeling that this thread is a knee jerk reaction from you to that. Sort of trolling (as has been said) I guess.

    Trying to make us stop and appreciate the guy for the brilliant boxer that he is isn't going to stop us from telling a few home truths when it comes to his recent business/negotiation actions I'm afraid...

    and yeah... ODLH was at Welterweight... not a catchweight... so he gets credit for beating him... only at Welterweight and not at his normal Light Middle. Same as if he beats Cotto at a catchweight then he just gets credit for beating him at a catchweight... not Welterweight. It really is that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Manny "Pacman" Pacquaio has greatly divided the boxing community into different factions. Those for him and against him. Many of those fans in his camp think he's the greatest thing since slice bread. And then there are those fans that just don't like him for whatever reason.

    This is a serious question because of many boxing fans have called Manny Pacquiao a pussy and coward for wanting to fight Cotto at a catchweight, which would be his first. To be fair I never considered the Oscar fight a catchweight because you can't expect someone to jump 3 weight classes from 135 to fight you when you called him out and it was at the 147 ww limit. So there are endless discussions about the Pacman for or against him in every boxing forum.

    So is Manny Pacquiao bad for boxing? Would boxing be better if Manny Pacquiao never picked up the sport?

    Discuss.
    Manny is one of the better things to take this sport by the neck in a very long time.He is very good for boxing but a percentage of his 'fans' bring all the insight & fever of a grade school girl screaming with glee at his very mention.

    This divisive carrot and stick of a thread on the other hand?It feeds huggers need for warmth,widens divides already existing in those that are exhausted with them and generally narrows the view of the sport.Both camps loose.No offense brother but I just ran out of Tp and am hitting print .Might be a bit scratchy but will serve a purpose
    Last edited by Spicoli; 07-10-2009 at 01:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Manny "Pacman" Pacquaio has greatly divided the boxing community into different factions. Those for him and against him. Many of those fans in his camp think he's the greatest thing since slice bread. And then there are those fans that just don't like him for whatever reason.

    This is a serious question because of many boxing fans have called Manny Pacquiao a pussy and coward for wanting to fight Cotto at a catchweight, which would be his first. To be fair I never considered the Oscar fight a catchweight because you can't expect someone to jump 3 weight classes from 135 to fight you when you called him out and it was at the 147 ww limit. So there are endless discussions about the Pacman for or against him in every boxing forum.

    So is Manny Pacquiao bad for boxing? Would boxing be better if Manny Pacquiao never picked up the sport?

    Discuss.

    You guys make me laugh!

    I'm having a little trouble understanding if your question related to the sport of boxing or more specifically related to this forum. It would appear that the subject of Manny Pacquiao is a very hot topic and ultimately good for this community.

    Personally, I think there are two personalities that bring the sport of boxing to the spotlight. Yes, Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather. The classic matchup of good guy verses bad guy. Hollywood and the WWE figured out long ago that this formula sells. Just my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ER-101 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Manny "Pacman" Pacquaio has greatly divided the boxing community into different factions. Those for him and against him. Many of those fans in his camp think he's the greatest thing since slice bread. And then there are those fans that just don't like him for whatever reason.

    This is a serious question because of many boxing fans have called Manny Pacquiao a pussy and coward for wanting to fight Cotto at a catchweight, which would be his first. To be fair I never considered the Oscar fight a catchweight because you can't expect someone to jump 3 weight classes from 135 to fight you when you called him out and it was at the 147 ww limit. So there are endless discussions about the Pacman for or against him in every boxing forum.

    So is Manny Pacquiao bad for boxing? Would boxing be better if Manny Pacquiao never picked up the sport?

    Discuss.

    You guys make me laugh!

    I'm having a little trouble understanding if your question related to the sport of boxing or more specifically related to this forum. It would appear that the subject of Manny Pacquiao is a very hot topic and ultimately good for this community.

    Personally, I think there are two personalities that bring the sport of boxing to the spotlight. Yes, Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather. The classic matchup of good guy verses bad guy. Hollywood and the WWE figured out long ago that this formula sells. Just my 2 cents.



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    Silly thread.

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