Double Standards

[SmeelMainly]

To your first point, Cotto has fought pretty much every other top welterweight in the division: Shane, Margarito, Clottey, Quintana etc. He gets a pass if he wants to fight the p4p #2 fighter in the world for a lot of money and he happens to be smaller.

This. I respect Cotto for at least getting in the ring with Shane, Margarito, etc, while PBF has been ducking them.

Love your username mate - that's quality

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[JonnyFolds]

I just don't understand how people can think there is a double standard about this whole thing.

135+9=144 (only 142 @weight in)
150-4=146 (oops, supposed to be 144! oh well)

Marquez... never been to the WW division
Floyd... won't fight anyone in the WW division today

Ahhh, screw it. It was a fair fight. I retract everything I've been saying about this mismatch for months. Floyd is the best, and he proved it that night. I think JuanMa just called you out Floyd.. you gonna let him disrespect you like that?

[Bomp]

How come when PBF fights a smaller guy everybody downs him for it. Yet nobody is downing Cotto for fighting PAC. last time i checked PAC was not a natural 147 pound fighter.

I get sick of people talking this shit about PBF fighting smaller guys. The man started at 130 and has moved up in weight. So at some point PBF was the smaller guy in the ring. People act like he'd fought little guys his whole career. It's not even like he fought a bum little guy. He fought JMM who was considered by many to be atleast top 5 P4P. People act like he started his carear at 154. I remember before the Gatti fight(RIP) everyone was talking that shit about PBF wasn't going to be able to stand up to a true 140 pounder. Now all of a sudden PBF is a natural junior Middle weight. Before he fought Castilo DLH and Hatton people said that PBF was too small and or wouldn't be able to handle the pressure these fighters would put on him. Now all of a sudden people act like PBF is some gaint fighting midgets.

Also how come a fighter is good until PBF beats them. Soon as PBF beat a guy people say the fighter is shot. Wasn't noboby saying JMM was shot before he got beat by PBF

The funniest part of the whole situation is people say PBF should fight a natural welter weight like cotto or PAC. When the fuck did PAC become natural welter weight? Now when PBF beats PAC then the haters will say that PBF beat another little guy.

If your gonna hate on a guy atleast be consitant.

To your first point, Cotto has fought pretty much every other top welterweight in the division: Shane, Margarito, Clottey, Quintana etc. He gets a pass if he wants to fight the p4p #2 fighter in the world for a lot of money and he happens to be smaller.

PBF had a great career before he began fighting above 140, anyone who disputes that is wrong. Since he has fought above 140, it hasn't been exceptional. Shane, Cotto, and Margarito have done more at welterweight than Floyd has in the same amount of time.

It's not like the criticism on Floyd is new. There has been the same criticism since before the DLF fight.

PBF is great, of course. Hopefully, he challenges himself and fights Cotto, Mosley, and Pwill. No one will say jack.

Bingo, this should've been the original reply.

retired after Hatton claiming nothing he could do to convince the doubters, and his supporters view was always that he'd return after one of the main welters would seperate themself from the rest, as it would have been 'unfair' on him to face all Pwill, Shane, Cotto, Marg. Marg gets a hugely impressive win against Cotto (at the time there was no doubts) and Floyd stayed schtum, Shane does the incredible and slays the boogeyman, yet still no word, yet JMM KO's an already exposed lightweight and suddenlt there's a worthy contender for his WELTERWEIGHT title. WTF!!!

JMM was rightly rated high in p4p as he had a great Featherweight career, and the wins against Casa and Diaz consolidated it as a career Featherweight who could still make 125 well into his 30s had stepped up an extra division again, NOT because those guys were elite themselves. Because (brace yourselves Floyd fans) traditionally there have been weight divisions for a reason, and beating a guy naturally heavier than you would gain extra kudos. Joey Maxim never took SRR's postition as top dog when he beat him, the kudos dont work when you beat the smaller man.

Of course my whining will be null and void if JMM turns out to be just a tune up, and he faces someone like Shane or winner Cotto Pac next, but I ain't holding my breath.

P.S., Floyd ain't no longer a small welter, if you can't make an ounce under 146 then there is no other weight class for you.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

How come when PBF fights a smaller guy everybody downs him for it. Yet nobody is downing Cotto for fighting PAC. last time i checked PAC was not a natural 147 pound fighter.

I get sick of people talking this shit about PBF fighting smaller guys. The man started at 130 and has moved up in weight. So at some point PBF was the smaller guy in the ring. People act like he'd fought little guys his whole career. It's not even like he fought a bum little guy. He fought JMM who was considered by many to be atleast top 5 P4P. People act like he started his carear at 154. I remember before the Gatti fight(RIP) everyone was talking that shit about PBF wasn't going to be able to stand up to a true 140 pounder. Now all of a sudden PBF is a natural junior Middle weight. Before he fought Castilo DLH and Hatton people said that PBF was too small and or wouldn't be able to handle the pressure these fighters would put on him. Now all of a sudden people act like PBF is some gaint fighting midgets.

Also how come a fighter is good until PBF beats them. Soon as PBF beat a guy people say the fighter is shot. Wasn't noboby saying JMM was shot before he got beat by PBF

The funniest part of the whole situation is people say PBF should fight a natural welter weight like cotto or PAC. When the fuck did PAC become natural welter weight? Now when PBF beats PAC then the haters will say that PBF beat another little guy.

If your gonna hate on a guy atleast be consitant.

It's only a double standard if you ignore that fact that Pac has fought at this weight & higher before AND make Cotto come in below what he is regularly contracted to fight at AND forget that Mayweather couldn't be arsed to make weight. But please feel free to ignore all this. Most people do.

[Althugz]

How come when PBF fights a smaller guy everybody downs him for it. Yet nobody is downing Cotto for fighting PAC. last time i checked PAC was not a natural 147 pound fighter.

I get sick of people talking this shit about PBF fighting smaller guys. The man started at 130 and has moved up in weight. So at some point PBF was the smaller guy in the ring. People act like he'd fought little guys his whole career. It's not even like he fought a bum little guy. He fought JMM who was considered by many to be atleast top 5 P4P. People act like he started his carear at 154. I remember before the Gatti fight(RIP) everyone was talking that shit about PBF wasn't going to be able to stand up to a true 140 pounder. Now all of a sudden PBF is a natural junior Middle weight. Before he fought Castilo DLH and Hatton people said that PBF was too small and or wouldn't be able to handle the pressure these fighters would put on him. Now all of a sudden people act like PBF is some gaint fighting midgets.

Also how come a fighter is good until PBF beats them. Soon as PBF beat a guy people say the fighter is shot. Wasn't noboby saying JMM was shot before he got beat by PBF

The funniest part of the whole situation is people say PBF should fight a natural welter weight like cotto or PAC. When the fuck did PAC become natural welter weight? Now when PBF beats PAC then the haters will say that PBF beat another little guy.

If your gonna hate on a guy atleast be consitant.

It's only a double standard if you ignore that fact that Pac has fought at this weight & higher before AND make Cotto come in below what he is regularly contracted to fight at AND forget that Mayweather couldn't be arsed to make weight. But please feel free to ignore all this. Most people do.

I hate the fact that Ricky F'in Hatton has given Pacquaio a free pass to use the excuse "He carries his weight up better" than JMM does.

What a load of BS - Just because Ricky came into the ring like an idiot with no defence against the then P4P #1 and gets KO'd he automatically is good for the weight?

Just because Freddie Roach organizes a bout with Oscar where he KNEW Oscar would be weak and weight drained (his words not mine - This is criminal IMO) - Pacquaio has carried his weight well to 147??

How very convenient...Maybe the problem was that Pacquaio's opponents were nowhere near the level of Floyd Mayweather Jr? THAT is why Marquez could not carry his weight up well.

I wonder how a 140lb fight between Marquez and Pac goes? I bet Marquez still schools him!

One thing I can agree with you all on is that I'd like to see Mayweather challenge himself in just 1 welterweight fight against another elite welterweight - Then he can and should retire peaceful in the knowledge that he is not only an ATG (because he is already one) but an ATG that even the most avid hater can acknowledge.

[El Kabong]

Well Juan Manuel Marquez fought Casamayor and Juan Diaz at 135!!!!! Pacquiao straight BOMBED OUT Ricky Hatton, a guy moving up from 130 shouldn't have been able to do that to the TOP(or a top) Junior Welterweight no matter which way you look at it.

Do you see any power punchers at 130 or even 135 who could blast out a top teir Junior Welter I don't.

Pac gets praise because 1. He took a risk 2. He blew his competition out of the water....meanwhile Mayweather 1. Took a NAME 2. Took that name outside of his regular weightclass and 3. Couldn't even stop him

[killersheep]

Well Juan Manuel Marquez fought Casamayor and Juan Diaz at 135!!!!! Pacquiao straight BOMBED OUT Ricky Hatton, a guy moving up from 130 shouldn't have been able to do that to the TOP(or a top) Junior Welterweight no matter which way you look at it.

Do you see any power punchers at 130 or even 135 who could blast out a top teir Junior Welter I don't.

Pac gets praise because 1. He took a risk 2. He blew his competition out of the water....meanwhile Mayweather 1. Took a NAME 2. Took that name outside of his regular weightclass and 3. Couldn't even stop him

Edwin Valero? Antonio Pitalua? Jorge Linares? I'd give all of them a shot at blowing out some of the top of 140 pile.

[El Kabong]

...Maybe, more than likely not though

[uwey]

You all need to blame yourselves for Floyd. I remember just recently you all ran Paul Williams out of the division because you didnt want him to fight "YOUR" favorite fighters. Cotto fan said hell no. Mosley fan did the same. He couldnt even get Margo fan(when he was the hot thing) to even take a rematch. What goes around comes around, so stop ya bitching and look at how you guys treated Tall Paul. You guys just want to belly ache about someone else and not your own. Critisize yourselves first and then your arguements would be takin serious. Im not even a Floyd fan but I can see what is being done. By the way Paul Williams would have beat the shit out of Floyd but he would have had to beat YOUR favorite fighters first and thats what you were scared of. DOUBLE STANDARDS IS THE RIGHT TITLE FOR THIS ONE.