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    Default Re: Valuev Won That Fight!

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    What a negative fight Haye fought! Who cares he landed the telling accurate blows, he was on his bike and made it a negative fight. Is that how you take the belt from the champion? Him and Andre Dirrell should buddy up, NEGATIVE fighters.
    i was thinkin the same thing.

    I must admit though, there were a few people I thought would have sided with a Haye victory that were haters of Dirrell. Seems they are sticking to their guns. I keep waiting to jump down someones throat about it kudos to those people. I did have Haye winning even though I literally fell asleep in the 12th round and the fight was at 2pm here.

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    Default Re: Valuev Won That Fight!

    Quote Originally Posted by markb018 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    What a negative fight Haye fought! Who cares he landed the telling accurate blows, he was on his bike and made it a negative fight. Is that how you take the belt from the champion? Him and Andre Dirrell should buddy up, NEGATIVE fighters.
    i was thinkin the same thing.

    I must admit though, there were a few people I thought would have sided with a Haye victory that were haters of Dirrell. Seems they are sticking to their guns. I keep waiting to jump down someones throat about it kudos to those people. I did have Haye winning even though I literally fell asleep in the 12th round and the fight was at 2pm here.
    IMO Haye won JUST. Dirrell won JUST

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    Default Re: Valuev Won That Fight!

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    What a negative fight Haye fought! Who cares he landed the telling accurate blows, he was on his bike and made it a negative fight. Is that how you take the belt from the champion? Him and Andre Dirrell should buddy up, NEGATIVE fighters.
    What exactly would YOU have done differently? The answer, regardless, is: "NO, YOU WOULD NOT".

    Haye fought a brilliant fight. Boxing is only entertainment if you buy the bullcrap the promoters want you to expect... they don't have to get in the ring either. Look at the challenge presented and enjoy the performance instead of thinking you are going to watch a Valuev fight and be entertained.

    He could have feinted and stuck the jab in the body more often... but that's nitpicking.
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    Default Re: Valuev Won That Fight!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dadi Astthorsson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    What a negative fight Haye fought! Who cares he landed the telling accurate blows, he was on his bike and made it a negative fight. Is that how you take the belt from the champion? Him and Andre Dirrell should buddy up, NEGATIVE fighters.
    What exactly would YOU have done differently? The answer, regardless, is: "NO, YOU WOULD NOT".

    Haye fought a brilliant fight. Boxing is only entertainment if you buy the bullcrap the promoters want you to expect... they don't have to get in the ring either. Look at the challenge presented and enjoy the performance instead of thinking you are going to watch a Valuev fight and be entertained.

    He could have feinted and stuck the jab in the body more often... but that's nitpicking.

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    Default Re: Valuev Won That Fight!

    man what a boring fight, all the talk about Haye bringing excitement to the heavyweight division his output was woeful(as well as his opponent). Haye showed he could land easily enough with his speed so I can't understand why he didn't throw more... won't be bothered to watch this shit again tommorrow! good thing my dodgy box still has the ppv channel and I didn't have to pay for this crap on a positive at least they had a exciting heavy on the undercard...Ruiz

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    Default Re: Valuev Won That Fight!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dadi Astthorsson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    What a negative fight Haye fought! Who cares he landed the telling accurate blows, he was on his bike and made it a negative fight. Is that how you take the belt from the champion? Him and Andre Dirrell should buddy up, NEGATIVE fighters.
    What exactly would YOU have done differently? The answer, regardless, is: "NO, YOU WOULD NOT".

    Haye fought a brilliant fight. Boxing is only entertainment if you buy the bullcrap the promoters want you to expect... they don't have to get in the ring either. Look at the challenge presented and enjoy the performance instead of thinking you are going to watch a Valuev fight and be entertained.

    He could have feinted and stuck the jab in the body more often... but that's nitpicking.
    no that's working, he did fuck all from what i've seen and heard, he could have circled away from Valuev's weak jab and used his own left to the body, bang up Valuev's ribs with good left hooks to the body (seeing how his right was hurt), but i guess he did alright coming off of a back injury

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    Default Re: Valuev Won That Fight!

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dadi Astthorsson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    What a negative fight Haye fought! Who cares he landed the telling accurate blows, he was on his bike and made it a negative fight. Is that how you take the belt from the champion? Him and Andre Dirrell should buddy up, NEGATIVE fighters.
    What exactly would YOU have done differently? The answer, regardless, is: "NO, YOU WOULD NOT".

    Haye fought a brilliant fight. Boxing is only entertainment if you buy the bullcrap the promoters want you to expect... they don't have to get in the ring either. Look at the challenge presented and enjoy the performance instead of thinking you are going to watch a Valuev fight and be entertained.

    He could have feinted and stuck the jab in the body more often... but that's nitpicking.
    no that's working, he did fuck all from what i've seen and heard, he could have circled away from Valuev's weak jab and used his own left to the body, bang up Valuev's ribs with good left hooks to the body (seeing how his right was hurt), but i guess he did alright coming off of a back injury
    Have you not seen the fight? How can you even make realistic comments?

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    He did what he needed to do to win.... That is the number one aim of being in boxing, and being a fight.. To do what you need to do to win... That keeps boxing exciting at almost every level...

    When HW begins to have some dangerous fighters again who are there to rip your head off, the excitement will come back, because that "do what you need to do to win" will become about ripping your opponents head off before he does that to your's...

    At the moment, fighters are doing what they need to do to win, and that isn't taking someone's head off.. It's earning points and avoiding getting KO'd... That is just the state of it, and you can respect the fighters for training enough to be able to have it over their opponents.. But until we have some dangerous characters thrown into the mix which force a more urgent brand of boxing at heavyweight, this is what we should expect most of the time... Love it or hate it...
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    Default Re: Valuev Won That Fight!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dizaster View Post
    He did what he needed to do to win.... That is the number one aim of being in boxing
    I thought the number one aim of boxing was to 'hit and not be hit'. Seems to me Haye's mantra that night was 'not be hit' without caring too much about the 'hit' part of it.

    I've never seen so much praise heaped on a fighter that refused (for 95% of the fight) to engage..

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    Default Re: Valuev Won That Fight!

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dadi Astthorsson View Post

    What exactly would YOU have done differently? The answer, regardless, is: "NO, YOU WOULD NOT".

    Haye fought a brilliant fight. Boxing is only entertainment if you buy the bullcrap the promoters want you to expect... they don't have to get in the ring either. Look at the challenge presented and enjoy the performance instead of thinking you are going to watch a Valuev fight and be entertained.

    He could have feinted and stuck the jab in the body more often... but that's nitpicking.
    no that's working, he did fuck all from what i've seen and heard, he could have circled away from Valuev's weak jab and used his own left to the body, bang up Valuev's ribs with good left hooks to the body (seeing how his right was hurt), but i guess he did alright coming off of a back injury
    Have you not seen the fight? How can you even make realistic comments?
    how is it unrealistic? Valuev is only somewhat effective from far, he can't fight inside to save his life, and him being 7'2 gave Haye more than enough body to hack away at, but he didn't, both guys tonight were losers, only Valuev was a bit worse

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    Default Re: Valuev Won That Fight!

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    no that's working, he did fuck all from what i've seen and heard, he could have circled away from Valuev's weak jab and used his own left to the body, bang up Valuev's ribs with good left hooks to the body (seeing how his right was hurt), but i guess he did alright coming off of a back injury
    Have you not seen the fight? How can you even make realistic comments?
    how is it unrealistic? Valuev is only somewhat effective from far, he can't fight inside to save his life, and him being 7'2 gave Haye more than enough body to hack away at, but he didn't, both guys tonight were losers, only Valuev was a bit worse
    Well if you'd seen the fight and weren't just speculating you'd have seen Valuev had his elbows tucked into the body which left a gap for jabs to the body that Haye landed quite reguarly!

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    Firstly, i'm very suprised he won the fight.
    Secondly, i VERY VERY suprised that he ROCKED Valuev
    And Thirdly, i'm pretty disapointed with some of the opinions shown here... Especially AMAT... Dude, WHAT THE FUK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO WITH A 23 STONE MAN?!?!?

    Your talking about Froch & Dirrel, two guys who are of exactly the same build and then comparing them to David & Goliath. This is madness... No wait, this is just dumb.

    DUMB!

    I've not had a look at anyone's pre fight/ post fight opinions but i'm gonna take a wild stab at the notion that all the guys who call the fight boring or Haye a runner or any of that negative shit MUST of been predicting a HAYE win or more likely a HAYE KNOCKOUT and are now just pissed becuase they dont know SHIT.

    I got it wrong but i was actually pleasantly suprised at how dicsiplined Haye was. With enought in the tank to Rock Valuev in the last with a fucked hand. And yes the fight was boring but FUCKING HELL, WHAT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO WITH A 7 STONE DEFICIT?!

    Some poeple just fuck me off with their stupidity...
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    Default Re: Valuev Won That Fight!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie View Post
    Firstly, i'm very suprised he won the fight.
    Secondly, i VERY VERY suprised that he ROCKED Valuev
    And Thirdly, i'm pretty disapointed with some of the opinions shown here... Especially AMAT... Dude, WHAT THE FUK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO WITH A 23 STONE MAN?!?!?

    Your talking about Froch & Dirrel, two guys who are of exactly the same build and then comparing them to David & Goliath. This is madness... No wait, this is just dumb.

    DUMB!

    I've not had a look at anyone's pre fight/ post fight opinions but i'm gonna take a wild stab at the notion that all the guys who call the fight boring or Haye a runner or any of that negative shit MUST of been predicting a HAYE win or more likely a HAYE KNOCKOUT and are now just pissed becuase they dont know SHIT.

    I got it wrong but i was actually pleasantly suprised at how dicsiplined Haye was. With enought in the tank to Rock Valuev in the last with a fucked hand. And yes the fight was boring but FUCKING HELL, WHAT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO WITH A 7 STONE DEFICIT?!

    Some poeple just fuck me off with their stupidity...
    im pretty sure amat started this thread to fire some people up. he was pissed that dirrell to a hometown decision when he clearly beat froch in better fashion than haye did to valuev.

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    Default Re: Valuev Won That Fight!

    Quote Originally Posted by markb018 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie View Post
    Firstly, i'm very suprised he won the fight.
    Secondly, i VERY VERY suprised that he ROCKED Valuev
    And Thirdly, i'm pretty disapointed with some of the opinions shown here... Especially AMAT... Dude, WHAT THE FUK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO WITH A 23 STONE MAN?!?!?

    Your talking about Froch & Dirrel, two guys who are of exactly the same build and then comparing them to David & Goliath. This is madness... No wait, this is just dumb.

    DUMB!

    I've not had a look at anyone's pre fight/ post fight opinions but i'm gonna take a wild stab at the notion that all the guys who call the fight boring or Haye a runner or any of that negative shit MUST of been predicting a HAYE win or more likely a HAYE KNOCKOUT and are now just pissed becuase they dont know SHIT.

    I got it wrong but i was actually pleasantly suprised at how dicsiplined Haye was. With enought in the tank to Rock Valuev in the last with a fucked hand. And yes the fight was boring but FUCKING HELL, WHAT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO WITH A 7 STONE DEFICIT?!

    Some poeple just fuck me off with their stupidity...
    im pretty sure amat started this thread to fire some people up. he was pissed that dirrell to a hometown decision when he clearly beat froch in better fashion than haye did to valuev.
    If he did, then thats just petty as well as imature.
    Again, i bring up the weight issue.
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    Default Re: Valuev Won That Fight!

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    What a negative fight Haye fought! Who cares he landed the telling accurate blows, he was on his bike and made it a negative fight. Is that how you take the belt from the champion? Him and Andre Dirrell should buddy up, NEGATIVE fighters.
    Never mind buddying up, they should fight each other... after all Haye is only about 3-4 stone heavier than Dirrell, that's not even 7 stone.

    Oh wait, is Dirrell the same guy who fought scared of against man who weighed precisely 0 pounds more than he did?

    If anything Dirrell looked bigger than Froch... after watching a high quality version of the fight and seeing the quality of what carl landed better I have to say I think Dirrell edged it, but what exactly was Dirrell's excuse for fighting so negativly and bitching to the ref every 2 seconds?

    Was Froch too big?

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