"March 13 or Bust"- Bob Arum

[fan johnny]

Well, I think this is the first site saying the date is a go.

Ringside Report "The Heart Of Boxing"

It says nothing about the agreement details besides Maryweather and Pacquiao having both tentatively agreed to the March 13, 2010 date.

[Nameless]

They are just using the medias to pressure each others. There is too much money at stake not to happen, either would be it in march or june, everybody wants a share of Gargantua's pie, from the VEgas resorts to the promoters without forgetting HBO and cie. It will happen and a deal will be made, we should all, matter of fact, not even bother with these details and wait for the official announcement.

[josef4334]

this is just one of the many speculations about this fight. there is even a link of mayweather agreeing to the fight and there are also numerous posts here saying that manny is stalling. if its not signed then theres nothing to talk about. i guess all the pacman hate is coming out from well known haters here. mayweather could say he agrees to fight so let the make up the contract and have both of them sign then we could all have a talk in here.

[josef4334]

I knew people would find a way to somehow turn this around on Mayweather. Hilarious how Pacquiao is the one holding up the deal and the fanatics just refuse to accept it. If this the was the other way around Mayweather would've gotten about 1000 ducking articles. Look, obviously the terms are decent if even Arum, who promotes Pac, ran with it. Your promoter is sent wth certain criteria to negotiate with. Arum did his job. And Pacquiao didn't turn down the terms. Pacquiao is shying away due to the dates. Pacquiao has turned down the dates. Plain and simple. Arum made it clear that Pacquiao doesn't want the dates. Even in this article Arum is saying the dates aren't agreeable. If it was the terms he would've stated such. Mayweather agreed to all the dates Arum suggested and now Pacquiao is shying away from anything before May. The fight can still be made. All isn't lost but Mayweather is the first one to agree and only an imaginative in denial mind can blame Mayweather at this point. Even Arum indicates that.

what deal? did mayweather sign? under what terms? obviously its all talk. i could say on national tv i want to fight pacman but i didnt say the terms. so does that mean that hes ducking me.all bs. where is your proof that mayweather agreed to all the terms arum suggested. its all about the money for arum. if he suggest the fight to be in january that dont mean that team pac has to accept it coz his promoter said so. is arum the one fighting that he's giving mayweather the dates he wanted? and whos blaming mayweather?

[knodaledge]

I knew people would find a way to somehow turn this around on Mayweather. Hilarious how Pacquiao is the one holding up the deal and the fanatics just refuse to accept it. If this the was the other way around Mayweather would've gotten about 1000 ducking articles. Look, obviously the terms are decent if even Arum, who promotes Pac, ran with it. Your promoter is sent wth certain criteria to negotiate with. Arum did his job. And Pacquiao didn't turn down the terms. Pacquiao is shying away due to the dates. Pacquiao has turned down the dates. Plain and simple. Arum made it clear that Pacquiao doesn't want the dates. Even in this article Arum is saying the dates aren't agreeable. If it was the terms he would've stated such. Mayweather agreed to all the dates Arum suggested and now Pacquiao is shying away from anything before May. The fight can still be made. All isn't lost but Mayweather is the first one to agree and only an imaginative in denial mind can blame Mayweather at this point. Even Arum indicates that.

what deal? did mayweather sign? under what terms? obviously its all talk. i could say on national tv i want to fight pacman but i didnt say the terms. so does that mean that hes ducking me.all bs. where is your proof that mayweather agreed to all the terms arum suggested. its all about the money for arum. if he suggest the fight to be in january that dont mean that team pac has to accept it coz his promoter said so. is arum the one fighting that he's giving mayweather the dates he wanted? and whos blaming mayweather?

You just don't get it. Arum, the opposing promoter, said Mayweather agreed to the terms. There's your source. A man who is paid to negotiate for Pacquiao has said in plain english that Mayweather agreed to the terms both parties negotiated. Thats the proof. Are you saying that Arum has lied? Why would he lie in favor of the opposing fighter who he hates? Why would he fly all the way to the Phillipines if he didn't have Mayweather's word to agree to the terms?

I agree that it's just terms, but you think Arum is going to negotiate a 99/1 split? There's a gag order, but obviously Arum feels the deal is fair for both fighters or he wouldn't even approach Pacquiao with such an offer. Before negotiations Team Pacquiao tells their negotiater what to ask for and how far they are willing to compromise. If these demands weren't atleast met half way, why would Arum even agree to them? Why would Arum even approach Pacquiao with them?

[Dizaster]

Obviously even before the Cotto fight, Pac had planned to take time off, as he stated in the post fight interview... He obviously planned to take time off right through his election, and then fight after that was all done..

He'd probably set it in stone with himself and with Roach etc...

But Arum wants his pay day as soon as possible, he's gone straight out and got Mayweather on board, and now he has to go tell his client (whom would have told Arum even before Cotto that he's not fighting again until after his election) that he's pretty much signed a done deal with Mayweather and he has to fight on March 13...


I understand where Arum is coming from, and really hope Pac takes the fight.... But if I was Pac i'd be pissed off having organised when the next fight will be, and probably having Arum on board with him,,, then while he's off planning his holiday and election, Arum is off organising a fight for him right when he's on his planned break..

It's like Golden Boy Promotions pretty much organizing a done deal fight for Floyd while he was retired (read, taking 2 years leave)...


Like I said, I hope Pac fights, but Arum is pushing something that he would have known Pac wouldn't want because he had planned to focus on his election and have a break after the Cotto fight... Pac has had a big couple of years and especially the last year since fighting Diaz, you would understand him wanting a break, and taking one...


So I wouldn't be surprised if Pac stands on his principles and says to Arum "I told you I was taking a f'ckn break for this election, and you fully understood it, so you're being a dick head organizing this fight when you know I didn't want to fight during this time.."

And I wouldn't blame Pac for that.... Even though I want him to fight, but he will already feel it is completely NOT on his terms by Arum coming in and breaking all his plans with trying to schedule a fight during this time..

[TheBranMan]

Mayweather has only agreed to the terms, but hasn't put any signature to paper.

Exactley. Mayweather gave a proposal who knows what the hell it says. A 80/20 split in favor of Mayweather, to fight with ten ounce gloves and a 30 foot ring. Who the hell knows what the terms are. I believe if it is decent Manny will take it.

LOL! Awesome. I totally agree. That sounds like Mayweather terms too.

He is a crafty dude, though. He knows that as many people watch his fights to see him loss as to see him win, if not more. He doesn't care whether he's the good guy or the bad guy.

Mayweather's terms are ridiculous most of the time. Hell, he might say he wants the fight at 154 for all we know.

No buddy. Every article that I've read on the subject states the same thing: Floyd agreed to Arum's terms. It's all on Pac now. The discussion was always in regards to March. Now that push comes to shove, Pac doesn't like the date and wants the 60/40 split. This is BS.

I hope that all of the Mayweather-haters saying that Floyd always runs from fights, can finally admit that Floyd does want to fight the best. It's Manny and Roach who are running with their tails between their legs now.

[Gandalf]

March 13th is a bit early TBH. Pac only just fought Cotto and his ear was all busted up. The guy deserves a couple of months off before getting back into another hard camp. I much prefer the May 1st date really. Both fighters can be at their best with no questions asked. Maybe Mayweather can go the UK and have that eagerly awaited bout with Matthew Hatton in the meantime. It would keep his coffers filling up, which is all he really cares about anyway.

[ElTerribleMorales]

this is just one of the many speculations about this fight. there is even a link of mayweather agreeing to the fight and there are also numerous posts here saying that manny is stalling. if its not signed then theres nothing to talk about. i guess all the pacman hate is coming out from well known haters here. mayweather could say he agrees to fight so let the make up the contract and have both of them sign then we could all have a talk in here.

yea that's it, the whole world hates Manny Pacquiao

it's been written in numerous articles that up to now, Mayweather has agreed, the only one in need of convincing is now Manny himself, and it's no secret that Pacquiao is a bit of a diva when it comes to negotiating

do i think that Pacquiao is scared of a fight with Mayweather? no

will it get signed? yes, but who the hell knows when

funny how some Pac fans love mentioning negotiations for a Pac fight when it's going smoothly (Cotto, Diaz, Barrera II, etc.) and all of the possibilities of the fight, but once he's mentioned to be the one stalling (which he is for whatever reason), they cry out for him to be the victim, give me a break

[TheBranMan]

this is just one of the many speculations about this fight. there is even a link of mayweather agreeing to the fight and there are also numerous posts here saying that manny is stalling. if its not signed then theres nothing to talk about. i guess all the pacman hate is coming out from well known haters here. mayweather could say he agrees to fight so let the make up the contract and have both of them sign then we could all have a talk in here.

yea that's it, the whole world hates Manny Pacquiao

it's been written in numerous articles that up to now, Mayweather has agreed, the only one in need of convincing is now Manny himself, and it's no secret that Pacquiao is a bit of a diva when it comes to negotiating

do i think that Pacquiao is scared of a fight with Mayweather? no

will it get signed? yes, but who the hell knows when

funny how some Pac fans love mentioning negotiations for a Pac fight when it's going smoothly (Cotto, Diaz, Barrera II, etc.) and all of the possibilities of the fight, but once he's mentioned to be the one stalling (which he is for whatever reason), they cry out for him to be the victim, give me a break

Well said

[fan johnny]

You guys don't get this one!

There is a gag order agreement in place and Neither Pacquiao nor Mayweather teams can leak information about the details of the fight. The only thing coming out of the negotiations is talks about the arrangements with affiliates connected with the fight.

Apparently Pacquiao has some issues with details in the contract and Arum has to go back to Mayweathers team with it. In my first post of this thread they say a "reliable source" is saying the March date is a go, but they have nothing beyond that. Yea it may even be bogus, but it's not the same as the other reports.

“I met with Manny this morning and my next step is to go back to the US to meet with the Mayweather people to finalize the arrangements. That’s as far as I want to go and we have an understanding with the Mayweather people until we finalize everything,”

“You can interpret it the way you like it but you can see a smile on my face that means I am not disappointed,”

Pacquiao, Floyd fight a done deal? | Manila Bulletin

[jerome01]

Exactley. Mayweather gave a proposal who knows what the hell it says. A 80/20 split in favor of Mayweather, to fight with ten ounce gloves and a 30 foot ring. Who the hell knows what the terms are. I believe if it is decent Manny will take it.

LOL! Awesome. I totally agree. That sounds like Mayweather terms too.

He is a crafty dude, though. He knows that as many people watch his fights to see him loss as to see him win, if not more. He doesn't care whether he's the good guy or the bad guy.

Mayweather's terms are ridiculous most of the time. Hell, he might say he wants the fight at 154 for all we know.

No buddy. Every article that I've read on the subject states the same thing: Floyd agreed to Arum's terms. It's all on Pac now. The discussion was always in regards to March. Now that push comes to shove, Pac doesn't like the date and wants the 60/40 split. This is BS.

I hope that all of the Mayweather-haters saying that Floyd always runs from fights, can finally admit that Floyd does want to fight the best. It's Manny and Roach who are running with their tails between their legs now.

Manny and Roach running their tails between their legs?

You wish..

From PhilBoxing:

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Arum met with Pacquiao at the New World hotel in Makati City Friday in the presence of only one other person – Pacquiao adviser Michael Konz. Arum said “I had a meeting this morning and we went over all the points and now I have to go back to the United States and sit with the Mayweather people and finalize some very minor aspects and then we’ll have an announcement sometime next week.
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Now lets see how the Mayweathers react to this.

[jon09]

Sorry to start another one of these but now its official.

Pacquiao-Mayweather is On: Manny Signs The Deal! - Boxing News

[jerome01]

this is just one of the many speculations about this fight. there is even a link of mayweather agreeing to the fight and there are also numerous posts here saying that manny is stalling. if its not signed then theres nothing to talk about. i guess all the pacman hate is coming out from well known haters here. mayweather could say he agrees to fight so let the make up the contract and have both of them sign then we could all have a talk in here.

yea that's it, the whole world hates Manny Pacquiao

it's been written in numerous articles that up to now, Mayweather has agreed, the only one in need of convincing is now Manny himself, and it's no secret that Pacquiao is a bit of a diva when it comes to negotiating

do i think that Pacquiao is scared of a fight with Mayweather? no

will it get signed? yes, but who the hell knows when

funny how some Pac fans love mentioning negotiations for a Pac fight when it's going smoothly (Cotto, Diaz, Barrera II, etc.) and all of the possibilities of the fight, but once he's mentioned to be the one stalling (which he is for whatever reason), they cry out for him to be the victim, give me a break

Well said

Sorry to rain on your parade.

But read this and weep.

From PhilBoxing:

Excerpts:
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Arum met with Pacquiao at the New World hotel in Makati City Friday in the presence of only one other person – Pacquiao adviser Michael Konz. Arum said “I had a meeting this morning and we went over all the points and now I have to go back to the United States and sit with the Mayweather people and finalize some very minor aspects and then we’ll have an announcement sometime next week.
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Now let see how the Mayweathers take this news.

[porkypara]

Sorry to start another one of these but now its official.

Pacquiao-Mayweather is On: Manny Signs The Deal! - Boxing News

Great news!


Now I got to try and book the night off work.