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    Default Re: Who says Pacquiao is scared of blood test? (VIDEO)

    What do these other fights have to do with pac/mayweather negotiations? You make it sound like stricter drug screens are somehow unfair and not beneficial to the sport as a whole
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    Default Re: Who says Pacquiao is scared of blood test? (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
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    A random test is the same as a regular test. It's just that you don't know when it will be. I don't understand the problem, Manny is a grown man in his 30's. He can deal with this.
    Answer me this...

    Did Barrera, Morales, Marquez, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, or any hall of famers deal with it before?
    Not as far as I am aware, but likewise none of the fighters you listed have jumped up several weight classes and continued to be supremely dominant. Manny's rise in recent years has been nothing short of spectacular and now questions are being asked. Mayweather is trying to cover all the bases and I don't see how he can be blamed for doing that. Nobody would agree that it is right for loopholes to exist where drug cheats can slip through. Not that I'm saying Manny is a drugs cheat, but you do have to wonder why he refuses to go ahead with what on the surface seems a very reasonable request. A lot is at stake here.
    He refuses because it could ruin their normal training routine and he's tired of team Floyd's bullcrap.

    Floyd is well known to avoid most threatening opponent. And this is just one of 'em.

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    Default Re: Who says Pacquiao is scared of blood test? (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Congressman View Post
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    Answer me this...

    Did Barrera, Morales, Marquez, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, or any hall of famers deal with it before?
    Not as far as I am aware, but likewise none of the fighters you listed have jumped up several weight classes and continued to be supremely dominant. Manny's rise in recent years has been nothing short of spectacular and now questions are being asked. Mayweather is trying to cover all the bases and I don't see how he can be blamed for doing that. Nobody would agree that it is right for loopholes to exist where drug cheats can slip through. Not that I'm saying Manny is a drugs cheat, but you do have to wonder why he refuses to go ahead with what on the surface seems a very reasonable request. A lot is at stake here.
    He refuses because it could ruin their normal training routine and he's tired of team Floyd's bullcrap.

    Floyd is well known to avoid most threatening opponent. And this is just one of 'em.
    U retard.. Arum and Pac have said they'll walk away from the fight not Floyd. How can Floyd be the one doing the avoiding if it is Pac running away. HAHA u are possibly the most stupid poster ever seen on here.

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    Default Re: Who says Pacquiao is scared of blood test? (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    What do these other fights have to do with pac/mayweather negotiations? You make it sound like stricter drug screens are somehow unfair and not beneficial to the sport as a whole
    If it will benefit the sports ofcourse. But I don't see anybody here suggesting the USADA test should apply in Juanma-Luevano mega fight.

    How come?

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    Default Re: Who says Pacquiao is scared of blood test? (VIDEO)

    Did Manny and his team know when this test was going to happen?

    I.e. was it random or not?

    Proves he doesnt mind doing a blood est close to a fight.

    Malignagi? Arum is going for Malignagi? He accused Manny of taking something recently, maybe anyone who is mentioned as opponents now should all request the same random tests

    Manny looks a right little priick at the moment, I thought I didnt like Floyd but Manny is really leaving a bad taste in the mouth about all his previous victories, like Margarito did.

    As for having Mosely as an opponent, 1 drug cheat versus someone who refuses random testing

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    Default Re: Who says Pacquiao is scared of blood test? (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Congressman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    What do these other fights have to do with pac/mayweather negotiations? You make it sound like stricter drug screens are somehow unfair and not beneficial to the sport as a whole
    If it will benefit the sports ofcourse. But I don't see anybody here suggesting the USADA test should apply in Juanma-Luevano mega fight.

    How come?
    Now that this is being debated I think you will find a lot of people wanting the commisions to have a serious overhaul of their testing procedures. In its own way this whole debacle might even have positive consequences down the line.

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    Default Re: Who says Pacquiao is scared of blood test? (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
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    Not as far as I am aware, but likewise none of the fighters you listed have jumped up several weight classes and continued to be supremely dominant. Manny's rise in recent years has been nothing short of spectacular and now questions are being asked. Mayweather is trying to cover all the bases and I don't see how he can be blamed for doing that. Nobody would agree that it is right for loopholes to exist where drug cheats can slip through. Not that I'm saying Manny is a drugs cheat, but you do have to wonder why he refuses to go ahead with what on the surface seems a very reasonable request. A lot is at stake here.
    He refuses because it could ruin their normal training routine and he's tired of team Floyd's bullcrap.

    Floyd is well known to avoid most threatening opponent. And this is just one of 'em.
    U retard.. Arum and Pac have said they'll walk away from the fight not Floyd. How can Floyd be the one doing the avoiding if it is Pac running away. HAHA u are possibly the most stupid poster ever seen on here.
    Seriously. You sound like 8 years old with the name calling.

    I'd walk away too if someone's constantly bullshitting me. It's about "fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice, shame on me" thing. Ya know what I mean there you internet stud you?

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    Default Re: Who says Pacquiao is scared of blood test? (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Congressman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    What do these other fights have to do with pac/mayweather negotiations? You make it sound like stricter drug screens are somehow unfair and not beneficial to the sport as a whole
    If it will benefit the sports ofcourse. But I don't see anybody here suggesting the USADA test should apply in Juanma-Luevano mega fight.

    How come?

    Good since you agree that it benefits the sport perhaps this can serve as a precedent so that future fights (such as Juanma-Luevano) will be more likely to do these tests.

    Remember boxing negotiation is like private contract work what is agreed to or even proposed in any one fight has nothing to do with other fights.

    Before you respond please read the below post.

    http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post828787
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    Default Re: Who says Pacquiao is scared of blood test? (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Congressman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Congressman View Post
    Sorry for making another thread. But it is currently a hot issue.

    Video proof that Manny Pacquiao is not scared to take blood during training! | Now Boxing
    Did you read the article you retard? If he is not afraid then why wont he take the tests? You have just killed your own argument!

    Also Arum says Pac gets freaked out by blood tests in this article. So in answer to your question Bob Arum says Manny is afraid of drug tests.
    Pacquiao-Mayweather fight KO'd - Boxing - Fox Sports
    Retard? Lol. That's weak compared to the "mum" comment I gave you.

    Anyways. That's not my point. What I'm saying is Pac did drawn blood for test just days and came out clean before he fought Hatton.
    A smart steroid user knows how to cycle properly and if he cycled properly then it would not show up days before hence the request to have a blood test 30 days before when he is still training. An athlete would not take steroids a week before the fight, they would take it months in advance so their training could be more intense, less chance of injury and also less hurt the morning after enabling them to back up intense training sessions which gives them the edge.
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    Default Re: Who says Pacquiao is scared of blood test? (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ebonyman View Post
    lol now Pac is suing...

    MANILA, Philippines -- Manny Pacquiao is not taking the insinuations sitting down.
    After being accused of using performance-enhancing drugs by the camp of Floyd Mayweather Jr., Pacquiao now plans to file civil complaints against the Mayweathers and Golden Boy Promotions.
    “Enough is enough. These people, Mayweather Sr., Jr., and Golden Boy Promotions, think it is a joke and a right to accuse someone wrongly of using steroids or other performance-enhancing drugs,” said Pacquiao in a report by PhilBoxing.com.
    The 7-time world champion said his character has been damaged by false accusations, which is why he plans to file cases of libel, slander and defamation against his accusers.
    “I have instructed my promoter, Bob Arum, head of Top Rank Inc., to help me out in the filing of the case as soon as possible because I have had people coming over to me now asking if I really take performance-enhancing drugs and I have cheated my way into becoming the No. 1 boxer in the world,” said the reigning pound-for-pound king.
    Pacquiao said he has had enough of the circus being played by the Mayweather camp, which he had tried to ignore. “I have tried to just brush it off as a mere pre-fight ploy but I think they have gone overboard,” he said.
    Mayweather, who is represented by Golden Boy Promotions, earlier demanded that he and Pacquiao should undergo Olympic-type of drug testing.
    Pacquiao agreed to blood testing in January, a month before the bout and immediately after. He, however, thumbed down blood tests near the fight date.

    Time to move on
    Arum tried to settle the issue by proposing that the test be done by an independent drug testing agencies being used by the National Football League and National Basketball Association.
    When the Mayweathers denied the proposal, Arum called a halt to the March 13 fight.
    "It would be reasonable to have some organization to perform all the tests on both fighters. We're not against testing. We just don't want testing right up against the fight," Arum said in USA Today.
    Arum said he is now working to arrange a fight between Pacquiao and Paulie Malignaggi on that date at a site to be determined on pay-per-view.
    The Top Rank promoter added that Pacquiao is also interested in facing Shane Mosley, who is facing Andre Berto on January 30.
    Also why waste thousands of dollars on a law suit when you could just finish it once and for all with one small needle and a couple of days? It seems like a lot of work just for someones pride if you ask me.
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    Default Re: Who says Pacquiao is scared of blood test? (VIDEO)

    first off youve tottally gone against what you meant to try and prove by showing that pac can take the tests easilly enough so there must be another reason he is refusing

    secondly, did any of the other fighters you mentioned have a $10 mil fine placed over them for the weight limit ?? same thing

    also i have never known other boxers come out and accuse another professional like this... and its guys who wont ever fight pac and have to no reason to simply try and discredit him..... makes me wonder why they would now

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    Default Re: Who says Pacquiao is scared of blood test? (VIDEO)

    These negotiations make me crazy.

    I shouldn't be opening my account in this forum until the negotiation is finished.

    Anyway, i'll try to cool my head and agree with everybody else here that Pac should take the random drug testing.

    Of course, he should make more crazy demands on Mayweather like $15 million dollar per excess pound and Mayweather should not weigh more than 150lbs on fight night.

    This is the only way to win this negotiation. Agree with the opponent's demands no matter how ludicrous they are and make more ludicrous demands.

    I hope the team pacquaio is reading my posts here.

    I'm giving you free advice TEAM PACQUAIO. Hope you're reading this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    These negotiations make me crazy.

    I shouldn't be opening my account in this forum until the negotiation is finished.

    Anyway, i'll try to cool my head and agree with everybody else here that Pac should take the random drug testing.

    Of course, he should make more crazy demands on Mayweather like $15 million dollar per excess pound and Mayweather should not weigh more than 150lbs on fight night.

    This is the only way to win this negotiation. Agree with the opponent's demands no matter how ludicrous they are and make more ludicrous demands.

    I hope the team pacquaio is reading my posts here.

    I'm giving you free advice TEAM PACQUAIO. Hope you're reading this.

    shouldnt weigh more than 150 on fight night why not ? re-hydration clauses hadnt been about before pac starting trying to throw them in, they are more rediculous than random drug testing

    this puts fighters at a health risk by stating they cant rehydrate to full strength

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    These negotiations make me crazy.

    I shouldn't be opening my account in this forum until the negotiation is finished.

    Anyway, i'll try to cool my head and agree with everybody else here that Pac should take the random drug testing.

    Of course, he should make more crazy demands on Mayweather like $15 million dollar per excess pound and Mayweather should not weigh more than 150lbs on fight night.

    This is the only way to win this negotiation. Agree with the opponent's demands no matter how ludicrous they are and make more ludicrous demands.

    I hope the team pacquaio is reading my posts here.

    I'm giving you free advice TEAM PACQUAIO. Hope you're reading this.

    shouldnt weigh more than 150 on fight night why not ? re-hydration clauses hadnt been about before pac starting trying to throw them in, they are more rediculous than random drug testing

    this puts fighters at a health risk by stating they cant rehydrate to full strength
    So you're concerned now with Mayweather but you couldn't see how dangerous this fight is for Pacquaio. He needs all the psychological advantage in this fight and I seriously believe that with him doing an Olympic drug testing, which he hasn't done before, might seriously affect his training.

    But you're not concerned about Pac so you won't accept any reason that Team Pacquiao will give.

    I just hope that Pac agrees to their LUDICROUS DEMANDS AND MAKE HIS OWN PREPOSTEROUS DEMANDS. IMO

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    Default Re: Who says Pacquiao is scared of blood test? (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    These negotiations make me crazy.

    I shouldn't be opening my account in this forum until the negotiation is finished.

    Anyway, i'll try to cool my head and agree with everybody else here that Pac should take the random drug testing.

    Of course, he should make more crazy demands on Mayweather like $15 million dollar per excess pound and Mayweather should not weigh more than 150lbs on fight night.

    This is the only way to win this negotiation. Agree with the opponent's demands no matter how ludicrous they are and make more ludicrous demands.

    I hope the team pacquaio is reading my posts here.

    I'm giving you free advice TEAM PACQUAIO. Hope you're reading this.

    shouldnt weigh more than 150 on fight night why not ? re-hydration clauses hadnt been about before pac starting trying to throw them in, they are more rediculous than random drug testing

    this puts fighters at a health risk by stating they cant rehydrate to full strength
    So you're concerned now with Mayweather but you couldn't see how dangerous this fight is for Pacquaio. He needs all the psychological advantage in this fight and I seriously believe that with him doing an Olympic drug testing, which he hasn't done before, might seriously affect his training.

    But you're not concerned about Pac so you won't accept any reason that Team Pacquiao will give.

    I just hope that Pac agrees to their LUDICROUS DEMANDS AND MAKE HIS OWN PREPOSTEROUS DEMANDS. IMO

    no just rehdration clauses in general are dangerous, why advantages ... how about a level playing field... remember floyd will be taking the tests too

    what ludicrous demands ? one arm tied behind his back? punching back is illegal? shoe laces tied together at all times ? ...... these would give pac those so called 'advantages' you want ... but you know what ... it would be a farce not a fight

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