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    Default Re: this is why pacquaio wants specifc test dates

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    As nothing else is yet to be proven, don't believe on this shitty hype brought by crackhead predator sr. All of you would just make fools out of yourselves, believe me. Pac was proven negative before so why doubt him? Why do all of you easily buy a crack head's tale? He might be in some induced state when he said this.
    Lots of athletes have passed tests before and later been caught...

    Do you have any idea how easy it is to mask or cycle PED if you know the tests and dates for them?

    Just because he has passed a test before it doesn't prove a thing.

    That being said, Pac is innocent until proven guilty... but I don't see how even a fanboy such as your self cannot cast suspicion on Pac based on how he has dealt with this so far.
    That's what i'm talking about. But it seems some of you is labeling pac as guilty.
    Why cast suspicion when all of the urine test proved pac negative before? Why believe sr.? Does he deserve merit for us to believe him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    As nothing else is yet to be proven, don't believe on this shitty hype brought by crackhead predator sr. All of you would just make fools out of yourselves, believe me. Pac was proven negative before so why doubt him? Why do all of you easily buy a crack head's tale? He might be in some induced state when he said this.
    Lots of athletes have passed tests before and later been caught...

    Do you have any idea how easy it is to mask or cycle PED if you know the tests and dates for them?

    Just because he has passed a test before it doesn't prove a thing.

    That being said, Pac is innocent until proven guilty... but I don't see how even a fanboy such as your self cannot cast suspicion on Pac based on how he has dealt with this so far.
    That's what i'm talking about. But it seems some of you is labeling pac as guilty.
    Why cast suspicion when all of the urine test proved pac negative before? Why believe sr.? Does he deserve merit for us to believe him?

    Because of the reasons on all 19 threads which you choose to ignore about the inconclusiveness of urine testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    As nothing else is yet to be proven, don't believe on this shitty hype brought by crackhead predator sr. All of you would just make fools out of yourselves, believe me. Pac was proven negative before so why doubt him? Why do all of you easily buy a crack head's tale? He might be in some induced state when he said this.
    Lots of athletes have passed tests before and later been caught...

    Do you have any idea how easy it is to mask or cycle PED if you know the tests and dates for them?

    Just because he has passed a test before it doesn't prove a thing.

    That being said, Pac is innocent until proven guilty... but I don't see how even a fanboy such as your self cannot cast suspicion on Pac based on how he has dealt with this so far.
    That's what i'm talking about. But it seems some of you is labeling pac as guilty.
    Why cast suspicion when all of the urine test proved pac negative before? Why believe sr.? Does he deserve merit for us to believe him?

    The bottom line for me is that Urine tests are inconclusive at best and that Pac's behaviour over this fiasco have cast a huge amount of suspicion over him.

    He must have known the reaction that the general public would have over this, yet he chose to act the way he has... In my opinion ANY effect that the blood test would have (which would be slim to none) would not be worth the way this has made Pac look unless he had something BIG to hide. That is just my opinion though, unfortunatly for pac that is no doubt the opinion of 100s of others now too.

    The fact that he has acted this way, asking for a timetable, saying he's afraid of needles, despite having tattoos, thinking a tiny blood test will affect him when he is surrounded by sports nutritionists/chefs etc is a MASSIVE smoking gun no matter which way you spin it.

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    Default Re: this is why pacquaio wants specifc test dates

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post

    Lots of athletes have passed tests before and later been caught...

    Do you have any idea how easy it is to mask or cycle PED if you know the tests and dates for them?

    Just because he has passed a test before it doesn't prove a thing.

    That being said, Pac is innocent until proven guilty... but I don't see how even a fanboy such as your self cannot cast suspicion on Pac based on how he has dealt with this so far.
    That's what i'm talking about. But it seems some of you is labeling pac as guilty.
    Why cast suspicion when all of the urine test proved pac negative before? Why believe sr.? Does he deserve merit for us to believe him?

    The bottom line for me is that Urine tests are inconclusive at best and that Pac's behaviour over this fiasco have cast a huge amount of suspicion over him.

    He must have known the reaction that the general public would have over this, yet he chose to act the way he has... In my opinion ANY effect that the blood test would have (which would be slim to none) would not be worth the way this has made Pac look unless he had something BIG to hide. That is just my opinion though, unfortunatly for pac that is no doubt the opinion of 100s of others now too.

    The fact that he has acted this way, asking for a timetable, saying he's afraid of needles, despite having tattoos, thinking a tiny blood test will affect him when he is surrounded by sports nutritionists/chefs etc is a MASSIVE smoking gun no matter which way you spin it.
    If urine tests is inconclusive then everyone should have a blood test do you agree? On all mdivisions. Not just pbf or Manny.

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    Default Re: this is why pacquaio wants specifc test dates

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post

    Lots of athletes have passed tests before and later been caught...

    Do you have any idea how easy it is to mask or cycle PED if you know the tests and dates for them?

    Just because he has passed a test before it doesn't prove a thing.

    That being said, Pac is innocent until proven guilty... but I don't see how even a fanboy such as your self cannot cast suspicion on Pac based on how he has dealt with this so far.
    That's what i'm talking about. But it seems some of you is labeling pac as guilty.
    Why cast suspicion when all of the urine test proved pac negative before? Why believe sr.? Does he deserve merit for us to believe him?

    The bottom line for me is that Urine tests are inconclusive at best and that Pac's behaviour over this fiasco have cast a huge amount of suspicion over him.

    He must have known the reaction that the general public would have over this, yet he chose to act the way he has... In my opinion ANY effect that the blood test would have (which would be slim to none) would not be worth the way this has made Pac look unless he had something BIG to hide. That is just my opinion though, unfortunatly for pac that is no doubt the opinion of 100s of others now too.

    The fact that he has acted this way, asking for a timetable, saying he's afraid of needles, despite having tattoos, thinking a tiny blood test will affect him when he is surrounded by sports nutritionists/chefs etc is a MASSIVE smoking gun no matter which way you spin it.

    The way I see it, Mayweather is afraid to fight. Why only now the issue had been raised on this blood test thing? Past DLH, Hatton, Cotto and nobody asked then for this shit test thing. As the saying goes: "If one man wants to do a task, he will do it without hesitation otherwise, he will complain, go into lots of talking and make excuses".

    Mind everybody here, Team Pacquiao is not against on this blood test thing, they want to have the test but with some other third party agency. In addition, why USADA? both are professional fighters recognized not only in the USA but to the whole of Planet Earth. Correct me if I'm wrong but USADA is doing testing only for Olympic, Pan American and Paralympic Athletes. (Do you think the Major League Baseball will agree to have their testing with a collegiate baseball agency specializing in high school and college baseball leagues oh common, have some common sense). INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    some of you is labeling pac as guilty.
    Why cast suspicion?

    He is acting guilty and suspicious is why

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Kim122509.html

    great article from victor conte the former head of BALCO, iv mentioned EPO in a few of my posts and it seems he agrees that this a big possibility with pac and explains a little on how the tests can be decieved if the fighters knows when they are set for
    funny how epo can easily be undetected especially in boxing where blood testing isn't required yet pacquiao is the only fighter who has risen to the level he has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KKisser View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Kim122509.html

    great article from victor conte the former head of BALCO, iv mentioned EPO in a few of my posts and it seems he agrees that this a big possibility with pac and explains a little on how the tests can be decieved if the fighters knows when they are set for
    funny how epo can easily be undetected especially in boxing where blood testing isn't required yet pacquiao is the only fighter who has risen to the level he has.

    hahahah ye because he is widley recognised as #1 GOAT isnt he... second to god himself (well only to the 'haters')

    get a grip, plenty of fighters have achieved as much or more than he has

    dont come out with the old 7 division BS because pac has the big advantage of starting so light were the divisions are like 2,3 lbs apart and the sport currently has more divisions than it ever has before

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KKisser View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Kim122509.html

    great article from victor conte the former head of BALCO, iv mentioned EPO in a few of my posts and it seems he agrees that this a big possibility with pac and explains a little on how the tests can be decieved if the fighters knows when they are set for
    funny how epo can easily be undetected especially in boxing where blood testing isn't required yet pacquiao is the only fighter who has risen to the level he has.

    hahahah ye because he is widley recognised as #1 GOAT isnt he... second to god himself (well only to the 'haters')

    get a grip, plenty of fighters have achieved as much or more than he has

    dont come out with the old 7 division BS because pac has the big advantage of starting so light were the divisions are like 2,3 lbs apart and the sport currently has more divisions than it ever has before
    oh took you several days to come up with that? lol

    ok, just name me these fighters we have at present that is at par with pac's achievement or current performance. since it's so easy to get away with these peds in pro boxing without the blood test there gotta be plenty of them, right?

    also, pac is only goat to a few loud nuthuggers, and don't even bring god up. pac's movie came up last in boxoffice top-grosser among all entries in this years metro manila film festival in the philippines and i doubt he would even win as a congressman in the small province he's running at for next year's election. shows how popular he is outside of being a boxer. lol

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    methink this article explains better why pac's team doesn't want to do it:

    Pacquiao vs. Mayweather: Floyd Mayweather Jr. Attempts to Kill Boxing | Bleacher Report\\

    "Mayweather is once again willing to negotiate, as you can see in the article I’ve linked below. Other articles have made the point that it’s not the blood testing that bothers Pacquiao per say; it’s the relinquishing of control to Mayweather."

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    Quote Originally Posted by KKisser View Post
    methink this article explains better why pac's team doesn't want to do it:

    Pacquiao vs. Mayweather: Floyd Mayweather Jr. Attempts to Kill Boxing | Bleacher Report\\

    "Mayweather is once again willing to negotiate, as you can see in the article I’ve linked below. Other articles have made the point that it’s not the blood testing that bothers Pacquiao per say; it’s the relinquishing of control to Mayweather."
    Oh so now that's the reason?

    I thought he was afraid of needles, and then disruption of his training schedule, and then the mental weakness of giving a blood sample, and then the lawsuit for defamation of character, then it was Golden Boy's connection to the USADA, now it's about control.

    It's all BS,

    The following statement is still true no matter how you spin it.

    "Pacquiao is backing out of the fight because of a drug test"
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