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    ricky hatton to comeback as welterweight. what's jmm chances against hatton at 147?
    Marquez is too fast for Hatton in my opinion. Ricky has disappointed his followers (not to mention himself) in his big fights. No reason here to believe he could rise up and beat a fighter like Marquez.
    I went to both his defeats in vegas he never let me down,i was gutted he lost but that is boxing at the end of the day! he let himself down by lossing his head and fighting like he did.But at least he wanted the biggest fights out there and wasnt afraid of fighting them even if he did get beat he fought the very best!

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    ricky hatton to comeback as welterweight. what's jmm chances against hatton at 147?
    Marquez is too fast for Hatton in my opinion. Ricky has disappointed his followers (not to mention himself) in his big fights. No reason here to believe he could rise up and beat a fighter like Marquez.
    I went to both his defeats in vegas he never let me down,i was gutted he lost but that is boxing at the end of the day! he let himself down by lossing his head and fighting like he did.But at least he wanted the biggest fights out there and wasnt afraid of fighting them even if he did get beat he fought the very best!
    not really, he ducked plenty of big names at 140 and that much more at 147

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    Marquez is too fast for Hatton in my opinion. Ricky has disappointed his followers (not to mention himself) in his big fights. No reason here to believe he could rise up and beat a fighter like Marquez.
    I went to both his defeats in vegas he never let me down,i was gutted he lost but that is boxing at the end of the day! he let himself down by lossing his head and fighting like he did.But at least he wanted the biggest fights out there and wasnt afraid of fighting them even if he did get beat he fought the very best!
    not really, he ducked plenty of big names at 140 and that much more at 147
    I don't know about that. The only fight I would say that Hatton ever "ducked" was the rematch with Collazo. I guess you could make a case for Witter, but that dead horse has been beaten for so long that it's turned into glue.

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    I went to both his defeats in vegas he never let me down,i was gutted he lost but that is boxing at the end of the day! he let himself down by lossing his head and fighting like he did.But at least he wanted the biggest fights out there and wasnt afraid of fighting them even if he did get beat he fought the very best!
    not really, he ducked plenty of big names at 140 and that much more at 147
    I don't know about that. The only fight I would say that Hatton ever "ducked" was the rematch with Collazo. I guess you could make a case for Witter, but that dead horse has been beaten for so long that it's turned into glue.
    Indeed. Hatton would have Mauled Witter and Collazo... Well, Ricky didn't want to dip his toe back into that water anytime soon. Collazo is dangerous to ANY top Welter.

    ...But who else did Ricky "duck"?
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    Hatton has had a very good career and there is no shame in the Mayweather loss, but I must admit that I was dissapointed with the Pacquiao performance. Hatton was floored twice and battered unconcious in the second. He fought an awful fight and was shown up from the off. It was a downright peculiar showing and very frustrating.

    Having said that, I think a Hatton with his head screwed on right can beat Marquez. Marquez doesn't belong anywhere north of 135.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    Marquez is too fast for Hatton in my opinion. Ricky has disappointed his followers (not to mention himself) in his big fights. No reason here to believe he could rise up and beat a fighter like Marquez.
    I went to both his defeats in vegas he never let me down,i was gutted he lost but that is boxing at the end of the day! he let himself down by lossing his head and fighting like he did.But at least he wanted the biggest fights out there and wasnt afraid of fighting them even if he did get beat he fought the very best!
    not really, he ducked plenty of big names at 140 and that much more at 147
    So he ducks big names at 140lbs, but yet fights Mayweather and Manny ? Yeah right, that makes perfect sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    Marquez is too fast for Hatton in my opinion. Ricky has disappointed his followers (not to mention himself) in his big fights. No reason here to believe he could rise up and beat a fighter like Marquez.
    I went to both his defeats in vegas he never let me down,i was gutted he lost but that is boxing at the end of the day! he let himself down by lossing his head and fighting like he did.But at least he wanted the biggest fights out there and wasnt afraid of fighting them even if he did get beat he fought the very best!
    not really, he ducked plenty of big names at 140 and that much more at 147
    Are you really being serious? Ducked? You don't fight Urango, Tszyu, Collazo, Pacquiao, Mayweather unless you are the shittest ducker of all days!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
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    I went to both his defeats in vegas he never let me down,i was gutted he lost but that is boxing at the end of the day! he let himself down by lossing his head and fighting like he did.But at least he wanted the biggest fights out there and wasnt afraid of fighting them even if he did get beat he fought the very best!
    not really, he ducked plenty of big names at 140 and that much more at 147
    Are you really being serious? Ducked? You don't fight Urango, Tszyu, Collazo, Pacquiao, Mayweather unless you are the shittest ducker of all days!
    Exactly. You can accuse a lot of people of ducking but to blame Hatton for it as well? That is a load of old codswallop.

    Hatton might be many things, but a ducker he ain't.

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    not really, he ducked plenty of big names at 140 and that much more at 147
    Are you really being serious? Ducked? You don't fight Urango, Tszyu, Collazo, Pacquiao, Mayweather unless you are the shittest ducker of all days!
    Exactly. You can accuse a lot of people of ducking but to blame Hatton for it as well? That is a load of old codswallop.

    Hatton might be many things, but a ducker he ain't.
    A ducker, no.. but he did have an inflated record. IMO Urango was his most impressive fight as Urango didn't have the technical skills to deal with Hatton's style. A dirty victory over an old Tszyu means little to me, and the fact that you have to mention Collazo on his list of big fights (a fight that he was undeniably hurt in and arguably lost), just shows that he was never in that top echelon of fighters. A very likable, popular fighter, but by no means one of the best. Cotto would beat him him now and would've killed him when they were both undefeated. No question in my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    Marquez is too fast for Hatton in my opinion. Ricky has disappointed his followers (not to mention himself) in his big fights. No reason here to believe he could rise up and beat a fighter like Marquez.
    I went to both his defeats in vegas he never let me down,i was gutted he lost but that is boxing at the end of the day! he let himself down by lossing his head and fighting like he did.But at least he wanted the biggest fights out there and wasnt afraid of fighting them even if he did get beat he fought the very best!
    not really, he ducked plenty of big names at 140 and that much more at 147

    Kudo's to you, i guess ya got what ya wanted, a reaction

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    ricky hatton to comeback as welterweight. what's jmm chances against hatton at 147?
    Marquez is too fast for Hatton in my opinion. Ricky has disappointed his followers (not to mention himself) in his big fights. No reason here to believe he could rise up and beat a fighter like Marquez.
    What sort of statement is that ? Get a grip.

    His fans, or followers as you so inaptly put it, take great pride in the fact Ricky actually reached that level. To be able to follow a true British home-grown fighter to the dizzy heights of head-lining in Las Vegas is something a true fan can never be disappointed about. We can only thank the fat little fucker for giving us the amazing opportunity. Also, to lose to the two best fighters of the modern era is unfortunate, but certainly not disappointing. Hatton was hardly the favourite in either fight. His fans give him props for taking these fights, putting his unbeaten record on the line, and testing himself against the best his era had to offer. He fell short, but he gave it his all, as fans you simply cannot ask for more than that.

    I also dont think Rick or his fans will have felt too disappointed with the result in his "Big Fight" with the legendary Mr Tszyu.

    And rise up and beat a fighter like Marquez ? Are you kidding me ? Which version of Marquez do you think he would be up against ?
    Kostya was the pinnacle for Ricky as we know. I think he got handled well considering who he fought to get KT and KT fans interested (who Kostya listened too and liked to please). When Ricky re fought Phillips for Tszyu (who wouldnt) then followed his footsteps onto Oktte Urkal another real tough boy, you could see they were paying their dues and their aim.I think they did great getting where they did the way they did.

    You really think he can relearn at this stage to not to be a fighter first and to out box Marquez?

    Even a declining Marquez will outbox him Im sure of it. Its a hell of a big call for a come back fight.
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    Are you really being serious? Ducked? You don't fight Urango, Tszyu, Collazo, Pacquiao, Mayweather unless you are the shittest ducker of all days!
    Exactly. You can accuse a lot of people of ducking but to blame Hatton for it as well? That is a load of old codswallop.

    Hatton might be many things, but a ducker he ain't.
    A ducker, no.. but he did have an inflated record. IMO Urango was his most impressive fight as Urango didn't have the technical skills to deal with Hatton's style. A dirty victory over an old Tszyu means little to me, and the fact that you have to mention Collazo on his list of big fights (a fight that he was undeniably hurt in and arguably lost), just shows that he was never in that top echelon of fighters. A very likable, popular fighter, but by no means one of the best. Cotto would beat him him now and would've killed him when they were both undefeated. No question in my mind.
    Agreed on the first point. There was too much dross under Warren, but since then I think he has fought a fair few credible opponents. Hatton has done alright and I think he is getting a lot of stick because he has lost 2 of his last 4. He has fallen short of being amongst the very best, but he is still a very good fighter and on his best day would give almost anyone a good fight. The Pac fight just took the piss, Hatton isn't quite that bad.

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    Marquez is too fast for Hatton in my opinion. Ricky has disappointed his followers (not to mention himself) in his big fights. No reason here to believe he could rise up and beat a fighter like Marquez.
    What sort of statement is that ? Get a grip.

    His fans, or followers as you so inaptly put it, take great pride in the fact Ricky actually reached that level. To be able to follow a true British home-grown fighter to the dizzy heights of head-lining in Las Vegas is something a true fan can never be disappointed about. We can only thank the fat little fucker for giving us the amazing opportunity. Also, to lose to the two best fighters of the modern era is unfortunate, but certainly not disappointing. Hatton was hardly the favourite in either fight. His fans give him props for taking these fights, putting his unbeaten record on the line, and testing himself against the best his era had to offer. He fell short, but he gave it his all, as fans you simply cannot ask for more than that.

    I also dont think Rick or his fans will have felt too disappointed with the result in his "Big Fight" with the legendary Mr Tszyu.

    And rise up and beat a fighter like Marquez ? Are you kidding me ? Which version of Marquez do you think he would be up against ?
    Kostya was the pinnacle for Ricky as we know. I think he got handled well considering who he fought to get KT and KT fans interested (who Kostya listened too and liked to please). When Ricky re fought Phillips for Tszyu (who wouldnt) then followed his footsteps onto Oktte Urkal another real tough boy, you could see they were paying their dues and their aim.I think they did great getting where they did the way they did.

    You really think he can relearn at this stage to not to be a fighter first and to out box Marquez?

    Even a declining Marquez will outbox him Im sure of it. Its a hell of a big call for a come back fight.
    I'm not so sure. Hatton is still pretty quick and he will be mauling Marquez in a way that Marquez just isn't used to. Marquez won't be given the time to pick his spots. A lot of quick combinations followed by spells of grappling and mauling. Marquez struggled to get through Diaz and Hatton is better than Diaz by a fair margin and at the higher weight I see Marquez being at a serious disadvantage. I wouldn't be surprised to see Marquez being stopped and Hatton thinking it okay to continue for another fight or two.

    Of course, I might be completely wrong and maybe Hatton has walked into something he just can't handle anymore. But if he has his head screwed on, I believe he can beat Marquez.

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    I went to both his defeats in vegas he never let me down,i was gutted he lost but that is boxing at the end of the day! he let himself down by lossing his head and fighting like he did.But at least he wanted the biggest fights out there and wasnt afraid of fighting them even if he did get beat he fought the very best!
    not really, he ducked plenty of big names at 140 and that much more at 147
    Are you really being serious? Ducked? You don't fight Urango, Tszyu, Collazo, Pacquiao, Mayweather unless you are the shittest ducker of all days!

    Hatton has never ducked a single fight or fighter in his whole career hence the reason why so many people still have so much time for him.

    If manny pacquiao came a calling tommorow morning ricky would have no beef with getting back in the ring with the very man who sent him to lala land last march.

    Even in the days with warren when pretty much every big name american fighter was ducking him pre-tszyu he was bringing over the finest non-us competition and making them look ridiculously average.

    Ricky deserves this one last hurrah for him to go out on a high, his fans deserve the chance to say goodbye to ricky and remember him as the no nonsense ring warrior who gave it his absoloute all and had bollocks the size of grapefruits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
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    What sort of statement is that ? Get a grip.

    His fans, or followers as you so inaptly put it, take great pride in the fact Ricky actually reached that level. To be able to follow a true British home-grown fighter to the dizzy heights of head-lining in Las Vegas is something a true fan can never be disappointed about. We can only thank the fat little fucker for giving us the amazing opportunity. Also, to lose to the two best fighters of the modern era is unfortunate, but certainly not disappointing. Hatton was hardly the favourite in either fight. His fans give him props for taking these fights, putting his unbeaten record on the line, and testing himself against the best his era had to offer. He fell short, but he gave it his all, as fans you simply cannot ask for more than that.

    I also dont think Rick or his fans will have felt too disappointed with the result in his "Big Fight" with the legendary Mr Tszyu.

    And rise up and beat a fighter like Marquez ? Are you kidding me ? Which version of Marquez do you think he would be up against ?
    Kostya was the pinnacle for Ricky as we know. I think he got handled well considering who he fought to get KT and KT fans interested (who Kostya listened too and liked to please). When Ricky re fought Phillips for Tszyu (who wouldnt) then followed his footsteps onto Oktte Urkal another real tough boy, you could see they were paying their dues and their aim.I think they did great getting where they did the way they did.

    You really think he can relearn at this stage to not to be a fighter first and to out box Marquez?

    Even a declining Marquez will outbox him Im sure of it. Its a hell of a big call for a come back fight.
    I'm not so sure. Hatton is still pretty quick and he will be mauling Marquez in a way that Marquez just isn't used to. Marquez won't be given the time to pick his spots. A lot of quick combinations followed by spells of grappling and mauling. Marquez struggled to get through Diaz and Hatton is better than Diaz by a fair margin and at the higher weight I see Marquez being at a serious disadvantage. I wouldn't be surprised to see Marquez being stopped and Hatton thinking it okay to continue for another fight or two.

    Of course, I might be completely wrong and maybe Hatton has walked into something he just can't handle anymore. But if he has his head screwed on, I believe he can beat Marquez.

    I believe Haton is still quick and has the skills to do well, and beat JMM. Take a look at the Paulie M fight, against a slickster with quick hands and good movement, he didnt really get a noteable punch landed on him. Granted Paulie is featherfisted, but he could of made Hatton look slow lumberous and laboured. He didnt, Rick out-slicked him and used his boxing brain to defeat him. No reason to think IF his head is on he cannot do that again.
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