"Slick" Fighters?

[Nameless]

Kid Thunder is he slick ? or a human punch catcher ?

I would simply say a dreamer.

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Archie Moore

Willie "Will O The wisp" Pep

[Mattyhitman]

Paulie Malignaggi, guess ya could put him in the Slickster gang as a whitey

[Pugilistic]

Yeah Floyd and Guzman (although he wasn't so slick the last fight) are fighters I would consider the epitome of slick.

What about the guys I listed?

Is Hopkins slick?

Same really as Jimmy mentioned, as for Hopkins, personally no. He is awkward, but not slick, he leaves himself in the pocket for his opponent to miss then counter with a headbutt or shoulder butt for example, maybe the odd punch, but imo he is plain dirty rather than slick.

I would place Lennox lewis in that mould of slick, rarely did he look troubled and most things he done looked effortless. Slick is getting in to range/ the pocket get ya shots off then get out without taking damage, Lewis opitomised this for me above all else, bar Mayweather.

Define your meaning of awkward because i personally feel "awkward" fighters are like Ricardo Mayorga, Emmanuel Augustus,etc.

Hopkins is not "awkward"

The check list for being a slick fighter imo is:

Good footwork/movement
Elusive/defensively sound
good counter puncher

Hopkins gets a tick in all those catergories.

Hopkins is dirty, but no where near as bad as you make out. The guy has a excellent right hand and his left hook is sneaky and accurate also. He score points with those, Not headbutts and shoulders.

[Mattyhitman]

Yeah Floyd and Guzman (although he wasn't so slick the last fight) are fighters I would consider the epitome of slick.

What about the guys I listed?

Is Hopkins slick?

Same really as Jimmy mentioned, as for Hopkins, personally no. He is awkward, but not slick, he leaves himself in the pocket for his opponent to miss then counter with a headbutt or shoulder butt for example, maybe the odd punch, but imo he is plain dirty rather than slick.

I would place Lennox lewis in that mould of slick, rarely did he look troubled and most things he done looked effortless. Slick is getting in to range/ the pocket get ya shots off then get out without taking damage, Lewis opitomised this for me above all else, bar Mayweather.

Define your meaning of awkward because i personally feel "awkward" fighters are like Ricardo Mayorga, Emmanuel Augustus,etc.

Hopkins is not "awkward"

The check list for being a slick fighter imo is:

Good footwork/movement
Elusive/defensively sound
good counter puncher

Hopkins gets a tick in all those catergories.

Hopkins is dirty, but no where near as bad as you make out. The guy has a excellent right hand and his left hook is sneaky and accurate also. He score points with those, Not headbutts and shoulders.

I was wondering when ya would pick up my Hopkins bashing, evaluation - My definition of awkward in relation to Hopkins ; hard to deal with, difficult to handle or manage, causing inconvenience. This for me is not slick. Listen mate he should have been DQ'ed against Calzaghe for the consistant fouling he done, he is a dirty boxer and he takes it to the limit and beyond. It makes me laugh when Hatton gets slated for wrestling and holding, when Hopkins is the opitomy of this.

I appreciate he is YOUR hero and fave boxer, but hey thats my take on him and my opinion on his style

[generalbulldog]

As someone brought it up, I can't remember when was the last time I saw a slick non-black boxer. It's pretty much like an white NFL running back, I don't think I've ever seen one in modern times.

[Pugilistic]

Same really as Jimmy mentioned, as for Hopkins, personally no. He is awkward, but not slick, he leaves himself in the pocket for his opponent to miss then counter with a headbutt or shoulder butt for example, maybe the odd punch, but imo he is plain dirty rather than slick.

I would place Lennox lewis in that mould of slick, rarely did he look troubled and most things he done looked effortless. Slick is getting in to range/ the pocket get ya shots off then get out without taking damage, Lewis opitomised this for me above all else, bar Mayweather.

Define your meaning of awkward because i personally feel "awkward" fighters are like Ricardo Mayorga, Emmanuel Augustus,etc.

Hopkins is not "awkward"

The check list for being a slick fighter imo is:

Good footwork/movement
Elusive/defensively sound
good counter puncher

Hopkins gets a tick in all those catergories.

Hopkins is dirty, but no where near as bad as you make out. The guy has a excellent right hand and his left hook is sneaky and accurate also. He score points with those, Not headbutts and shoulders.

I was wondering when ya would pick up my Hopkins bashing, evaluation - My definition of awkward in relation to Hopkins ; hard to deal with, difficult to handle or manage, causing inconvenience. This for me is not slick. Listen mate he should have been DQ'ed against Calzaghe for the consistant fouling he done, he is a dirty boxer and he takes it to the limit and beyond. It makes me laugh when Hatton gets slated for wrestling and holding, when Hopkins is the opitomy of this.

I appreciate he is YOUR hero and fave boxer, but hey thats my take on him and my opinion on his style

I now see what you mean by Hopkins being awkward. I think Mayweather and other slick fighters belongs in a similar catergory also because they have a similar effect on his opponents. I personally feel all slick fighters have a awkwardness about them because they tend to move well and are tough to hit which is frustrating for alot of boxers.

I disagree on the Calzaghe fight. Hopkins has been alot more dirty than that in his career (Look at his second fight with Elchols) and to be fair, Calzaghe did his fair share of rabbit punches and low blows on the inside. Hopkins wasn't all to blame when it came to fighting dirty in that fight.

As far as Hopkins and Hatton are concerned, Hopkins has a excuse for hitting and holding. He is old, really old in boxing years. Holding was never part of Hopkins game in his younger days and his prime.

Hatton doesn't have that excuse.

[Violent Demise]

What exactly does slick mean?

Hopkins?
Taylor? (Jermain)
Mosley?
Miranda?

Which can be described as slick?

No doubt. Slickest of them all

[sumkalambay]

Hopkins is definitely slick. the prime Hopkins that is.

Sergio Martinez defitely is not slick. he's there to be hit.

top 3 slicksters of the decade:

1) Floyd
2) Hopkins
3) Mijares

[Fenster]

What exactly does slick mean?

Hopkins?
Taylor? (Jermain)
Mosley?
Miranda?

Which can be described as slick?

No doubt. Slickest of them all

I can't believe that got to the 2nd page without a query.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

What exactly does slick mean?

Hopkins?
Taylor? (Jermain)
Mosley?
Miranda?

Which can be described as slick?

No doubt. Slickest of them all

I can't believe that got to the 2nd page without a query.

I figured it was a joke... I mean c'mon

Walking forward and throwing bombs is not exactly me definition of "slick"

[amat]

It's a good question but I would not agree at all that only black fighters can be classified as 'slick', that's ridiculous. Also, there are different types of slick fighters. Some fighters can be slick because they blend good defense and good counterpunching to be slick, others are slick moving forward, others are slick punchers, it can be applied to many things.

Slick, crafty, saavy, smart; all of those words are interchangeable to a certain extent. I believe what you are looking for here is the exact meaning of the word, right?

[Spicoli]

Think it meshes into what ones taste is.I always blur the line when it comes to 'slick' as you also have a number of 'cuties' or just flat out cagey-Wiley fighters.I think Toney as 'slick' in a different fashion but footwork defies what many think as slick...more cagey but dare say his upper body shifts,feints and slips are/were on par with many top 'slicksters' ever.Slick = quick footwork for me combined with equally fluid output...stick and move...placement and anticipating the next move or two upon executing the very first.Think combination punching but with feet

Virgil hill pretty smooth...Mark Johnson when not trading could be very slick...Byrd...Ray olivera...shit,good topic

Taking the bate...Bones Adams in top form (vs Nestor Garza) was a slick boxing fool)....Yuri Foreman

[ICB]

As someone brought it up, I can't remember when was the last time I saw a slick non-black boxer. It's pretty much like an white NFL running back, I don't think I've ever seen one in modern times.

Currently i'll say Kevin Mitchell is pretty slick, although he hasn't always shown it. But he made Breidis Prescott basically miss every big shot for 12 rounds, just using his upper body movement.

[OumaFan]

I just think of it as good skills with an emphasis on defensive skills. So yeah Hopkins is an obvious one, Floyd, etc. But its one of those terms that means different things to different people I guess.

[JazMerkin]

It's a good question but I would not agree at all that only black fighters can be classified as 'slick', that's ridiculous. Also, there are different types of slick fighters. Some fighters can be slick because they blend good defense and good counterpunching to be slick, others are slick moving forward, others are slick punchers, it can be applied to many things.

Slick, crafty, saavy, smart; all of those words are interchangeable to a certain extent. I believe what you are looking for here is the exact meaning of the word, right?

This. There are a fair few non-black fighters who could be considered slick like Paulie Malignaggi, Paul Spadafora and Sergio Martinez to a point, unless we're now going to count anyone who isn't anglo-saxon as black

I think the best active examples would be Floyd, Hopkins, Chad Dawson, Eddie Chambers and Ivan Calderon, as well as some of those mentioned above just to bump up the affirmative action for paler skinned brothers.