You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd

[luvfightgame]

Only doubt I have about Shane is that he was out boxed by Cotto who is not known for his silky boxing skills. Shane also tends to load up his punches if he runs out of ideas and tries to take people out with one shot.

Shane has been held back in his development by not having a strategic trainer. His dad had him "power boxing". Basically that meant using his speed or power to win without any real game plan.

Also Shane always tries to beat people at what they are good at. He became the puncher against Cotto. He had Miguel backing up the whole fight. Training with Naz and Bhop is going to change things. He will fight smart, not just overpowering or overwhelming.

[CFH]

Shane Mosley WILL BEAT Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Shane's smart, he's strong, he has very quick hands, he's not killing himself to make weight, and Floyd can't hurt him.

I think Floyd has been apprehensive about fighting a couple guys at 147 and rightfully so in some cases: Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Shane Mosley, and Pacquiao. Now of course the Floyd fans will say Floyd has little left to prove and those fights didn't make sense etc etc but Floyd's record speaks for itself he never once said "Give me Cotto and I'll beat him" or "Give me Williams and I'll beat him" he simply waited until they lost and said "See, they weren't worthy of a shot vs me" and it doesn't make sense for Floyd not to fight when the money is to his liking. If he was truly "Money Mayweather" he would have fought at least 3 of those guys because you cannot tell me that ANY of those fights wouldn't have made HUGE money at the gate and on PPV.

Stylistically Floyd has very little to offer Shane, the guys who have beaten Shane either use their height and reach (Forrest & Wright) or are durable enough to trade with Shane and get the better of him (Miguel Cotto and to a lesser extent De la Hoya in the rematch was able to hang with him). Floyd has great defense but he isn't as effective until he gets a fighter to tire themself out, vs Judah and Hatton he allowed them to do work early and chase him around the ring while he pot shotted them for at least half the fight knowing especially that Zab would have 0 to offer him later in the fight and that's when Floyd turned it on....Shane doesn't have much in the defense department but he's strong and he's got fast DANGEROUS hands and he's going to beat Floyd.

Lyle i have already said in a previous post , that Shane will win and be the first to drop and hurt Mayweather.

Floyd has already been hurt and dropped. He took a count vs Hernandez. He was floored by Judah but a count wasnt given. He was hurt by Corley and he was almost floored by Hatton in the 1st . Mosley is alot better than those guys.

What you're saying is only partially true. He broke his hand in the Hernandez fight and that's why his glove touched the canvas. His glove also touched against Judah, which should have been ruled a KD in hindsight, but he wasn't badly hurt. Corley buzzed him a bit, but again it's not like he was in danger of being stopped. The only reason he stumbled against Hatton was because he was off-balance, Hatton never hurt him in that fight. IMO Mosley is in for a beating.

[markb018]

Lyle i have already said in a previous post , that Shane will win and be the first to drop and hurt Mayweather.

Floyd has already been hurt and dropped. He took a count vs Hernandez. He was floored by Judah but a count wasnt given. He was hurt by Corley and he was almost floored by Hatton in the 1st . Mosley is alot better than those guys.

What you're saying is only partially true. He broke his hand in the Hernandez fight and that's why his glove touched the canvas. His glove also touched against Judah, which should have been ruled a KD in hindsight, but he wasn't badly hurt. Corley buzzed him a bit, but again it's not like he was in danger of being stopped. The only reason he stumbled against Hatton was because he was off-balance, Hatton never hurt him in that fight. IMO Mosley is in for a beating.

Completely agree, Floyd has yet to have been really damaged in a fight and he has definitely been caught more than once on some solid shots. Honestly though I doubt Shane even lands one solid shit. Shane maybe wins 2 rounds

It is crazy if you had asked me about Floyd when he fought Hatton, I would have cursed his name, couldn't stand the guy. After going through and watching a lot of his fights again and maybe just me getting old. I find his style nothing but gratifying lately. This is the first fight I am rooting for him and will continue to do so. He is just incredibly gifted

[TheMacMagician]

Lyle i have already said in a previous post , that Shane will win and be the first to drop and hurt Mayweather.

Floyd has already been hurt and dropped. He took a count vs Hernandez. He was floored by Judah but a count wasnt given. He was hurt by Corley and he was almost floored by Hatton in the 1st . Mosley is alot better than those guys.

What you're saying is only partially true. He broke his hand in the Hernandez fight and that's why his glove touched the canvas. His glove also touched against Judah, which should have been ruled a KD in hindsight, but he wasn't badly hurt. Corley buzzed him a bit, but again it's not like he was in danger of being stopped. The only reason he stumbled against Hatton was because he was off-balance, Hatton never hurt him in that fight. IMO Mosley is in for a beating.

Floyd hasn't given a top fighter in the same weight category a beating since Corrales, so I think that idea is just smoke...... Gatti was way way way past his best, and even his best wasn't that great. A slow and bloated Marquez caught PBF square on the nose, so based on that, with his speed and movement, so will Mosely, albeit not a huge land percentage i don't think. I'd say that this is the real test for me, chin..... If Mayweather can take a shot from Mosley, then he takes a tight decision over 12 I think.

[Mar]

Shane had all these impressive qualities when he fought, collazo,forrest,cotto, and mayorga and we see how much of an advantage he had against these guys. Collazo made him look ordinary, forrest beat his ass, cotto beat his ass again, and mayorga one of the easiest wins out there damn near beat him, and based on that he'll beat floyd I'd like to see it too guys but there is little chance in damn hell shane will win. I'm not all that sure he'd have beaten berto really. Most of this hype is built off of shane beating a robotic marga cheat o after having the main weapon of his gameplan taken from him in the locker room right before the fight. With all the drama and what not going on tony had less chance than shane has. Shane will paw paw paw and "bam" get countered and battered all night. Shane brings absolutly nothing floyd hasn't seen or already beaten. A case can be conjured to make it seem any fighter can beat floyd. Hell the dude does it himself on those stupid 24/7's to make it seem like he might loose..........but we all know he never does. Awhile back shane would have a better chance although i still say he'd loose. But now he's slower, older, etc. While floyd has barely ever even been touched. Good luck to shane though, he's really reallly gonna need it.

[Hulk]

Shane Mosley WILL BEAT Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Shane's smart, he's strong, he has very quick hands, he's not killing himself to make weight, and Floyd can't hurt him.

I think Floyd has been apprehensive about fighting a couple guys at 147 and rightfully so in some cases: Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Shane Mosley, and Pacquiao. Now of course the Floyd fans will say Floyd has little left to prove and those fights didn't make sense etc etc but Floyd's record speaks for itself he never once said "Give me Cotto and I'll beat him" or "Give me Williams and I'll beat him" he simply waited until they lost and said "See, they weren't worthy of a shot vs me" and it doesn't make sense for Floyd not to fight when the money is to his liking. If he was truly "Money Mayweather" he would have fought at least 3 of those guys because you cannot tell me that ANY of those fights wouldn't have made HUGE money at the gate and on PPV.

Stylistically Floyd has very little to offer Shane, the guys who have beaten Shane either use their height and reach (Forrest & Wright) or are durable enough to trade with Shane and get the better of him (Miguel Cotto and to a lesser extent De la Hoya in the rematch was able to hang with him). Floyd has great defense but he isn't as effective until he gets a fighter to tire themself out, vs Judah and Hatton he allowed them to do work early and chase him around the ring while he pot shotted them for at least half the fight knowing especially that Zab would have 0 to offer him later in the fight and that's when Floyd turned it on....Shane doesn't have much in the defense department but he's strong and he's got fast DANGEROUS hands and he's going to beat Floyd.

For once I agree with you.

Mosley can do it, and he KNOWS he can do it.

If Mosley hurts Mayweather then its over. He'll finish him.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Those saying that if floyd wins the excuse will be because shane is too old...its not an excuse its a fact..shane is 38yrs old..that's old for any sport esp in boxing.

but I've been waiting for this for sometime now. I remember saying on this forum four years ago shane has the tools to do it, and I was bashed heavily because of shane's performances against vargas. Now it seems as though more guys are believing shane can do it. I don't know if its because they floyd want to lose or if they actually believe the old shane can do it.

But hindsight shane probably wasnt ready not because he lacked physically but because he didn't have the x factor...NAZ..shane will stick a very stiff jab in floyd's face early much like he did in the first oscar fight.

[BoxingChaos]

I am picking Floyd on this one

[CFH]

Just for posterity's sake when this thread is bumped, Floyd by wide UD something around 117-111/118-110.

[Andre]

Shane Mosley WILL BEAT Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Shane's smart, he's strong, he has very quick hands, he's not killing himself to make weight, and Floyd can't hurt him.

I think Floyd has been apprehensive about fighting a couple guys at 147 and rightfully so in some cases: Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Shane Mosley, and Pacquiao. Now of course the Floyd fans will say Floyd has little left to prove and those fights didn't make sense etc etc but Floyd's record speaks for itself he never once said "Give me Cotto and I'll beat him" or "Give me Williams and I'll beat him" he simply waited until they lost and said "See, they weren't worthy of a shot vs me" and it doesn't make sense for Floyd not to fight when the money is to his liking. If he was truly "Money Mayweather" he would have fought at least 3 of those guys because you cannot tell me that ANY of those fights wouldn't have made HUGE money at the gate and on PPV.

Stylistically Floyd has very little to offer Shane, the guys who have beaten Shane either use their height and reach (Forrest & Wright) or are durable enough to trade with Shane and get the better of him (Miguel Cotto and to a lesser extent De la Hoya in the rematch was able to hang with him). Floyd has great defense but he isn't as effective until he gets a fighter to tire themself out, vs Judah and Hatton he allowed them to do work early and chase him around the ring while he pot shotted them for at least half the fight knowing especially that Zab would have 0 to offer him later in the fight and that's when Floyd turned it on....Shane doesn't have much in the defense department but he's strong and he's got fast DANGEROUS hands and he's going to beat Floyd.

For once I agree with you.

Mosley can do it, and he KNOWS he can do it.

If Mosley hurts Mayweather then its over. He'll finish him.

That is very true early on, but Floyd will probably evade and counter for the first half of the fight until Mosley looses some steam.

I hope you are right and Im wrong I really do.
I would be upset if Floyd wore him down and finished him that would just about kill me.

[Truth]

Floyd WILL DOMINATE Shane in fact it won't even be competitive. Mayweather has a fabulous jab which Shane will not be able to avoid (watch Mosley Forrest or Mosley Wright). Floyd is way too defensively sound to get hit by a guy who throws LOOPING punches. Shane has poor defense where his main strategy is to shove opponents (watch the Margarito fight). Shane has NO head movement. Floyd is faster than Shane. Shane is 39 years old. Anyone who's picking Shane is pretty much saying well he hits HARD so hell knock Maywetaher out you have to HIT MAYWEATHER to knock him out. I'll be bold enough to say it'll be as ONE SIDED as the Marquez fight.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Floyd WILL DOMINATE Shane in fact it won't even be competitive. Mayweather has a fabulous jab which Shane will not be able to avoid (watch Mosley Forrest or Mosley Wright). Floyd is way too defensively sound to get hit by a guy who throws LOOPING punches. Shane has poor defense where his main strategy is to shove opponents (watch the Margarito fight). Shane has NO head movement. Floyd is faster than Shane. Shane is 39 years old. Anyone who's picking Shane is pretty much saying well he hits HARD so hell knock Maywetaher out you have to HIT MAYWEATHER to knock him out. I'll be bold enough to say it'll be as ONE SIDED as the Marquez fight.

I definitely see your point T. Mosley needs to keep his shots straight. I hate the looping right hand he puts so much faith in... It seldom works these days... Even when he 'hides' it behind a jab.

[El Kabong]

The right hand for Shane is just icing on the cake, the punches he HAS to land are #1 The Jab #2 The left hook. Floyd has trouble vs the jab, hell everyone has trouble vs a good jab, and if Shane can land ANY left hooks he'll do big damage.

Shane is also going to need to catch Floyd when PBF finally tries to throw anything back which is also why the jab is important as it should get Floyd to try and counter once he gets tagged with it enough.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Floyd WILL DOMINATE Shane in fact it won't even be competitive. Mayweather has a fabulous jab which Shane will not be able to avoid (watch Mosley Forrest or Mosley Wright). Floyd is way too defensively sound to get hit by a guy who throws LOOPING punches. Shane has poor defense where his main strategy is to shove opponents (watch the Margarito fight). Shane has NO head movement. Floyd is faster than Shane. Shane is 39 years old. Anyone who's picking Shane is pretty much saying well he hits HARD so hell knock Maywetaher out you have to HIT MAYWEATHER to knock him out. I'll be bold enough to say it'll be as ONE SIDED as the Marquez fight.

I definitely see your point T. Mosley needs to keep his shots straight. I hate the looping right hand he puts so much faith in... It seldom works these days... Even when he 'hides' it behind a jab.

Everyone Shane has faced well tell you otherwise...

[JJson]

Originally Posted by Zilla
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Originally Posted by Jimboogie
In relevance to Floyd. I (as pretty much everyone else) know everything Floyd has to offer... Every little trick in the book has been seen. In theory, it should be easier to formulate AND execute a game plan against Floyd based on what Floyd does fight after fight after fight.

He's style is VERY regimented. (i hope that's the right word to use )

Alas, many fighters have thought the same thing and none have them have been able to do anything about it. You make it sound like the way Floyd fights is simple and just about anybody should be able to break him down.

I dunno. I don't mean to come across like I have no respect for Floyd as a fighter. I just know him inside out.

It must be just me

In his own unique way, he does things very much by 'the book'. Move-by-move... I can, quite literally, call his offensive as it unfolds.

Where he excels is in his reactions. That's his little superhuman trait that makes things so damn unbeatable.

So many fighters have fell in to the trap of getting him on the ropes, or getting close and then firing away with clubbing wide shots... I beg why?

Mosley, I hope, can put the emphasis on getting home with the right punches and not in just trying to beat the fight out of Floyd. That may come as a natural progression given Mosley's speed and power... Who knows..?

And yeah, i said 'i hope'

Dream on FHs. I don't mean that Mosely do not have a chance to beat Floyd. But to analyze this fight on a premise that PBF is not a unique and exceptional talent is ludicrous.

A well trained and in form PBF will beat anyone at 147 and under that is fighting today. Tomorrow, as age takes a toll of his reflexis and skill, that certainy wont be possible. But then it will be time defeating him rather than an opponent.