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    Kevin Mitchell stopping Katasidis
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quintana over Berto
    I don't consider that an upset

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Kevin Mitchell stopping Katasidis
    Is that really an upset?

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    Oh I totally forgot one but it's not really an "upset" because I really rate Glen Johnson but I would not be shocked if Glen Johnson tore up Tavoris Cloud. It would be kind of bitter sweet as Glen Johnson is a true class act but I really like Cloud....but the kid just doesn't BOX enough and he'll be in with a guy who is WAAAAYYY too dangerous to simply rely on your power to overwhelm him. You could see when Cloud fought Clinton Woods that he got busted up a couple times with counters and Woods can't punch like Johnson can.

    Bute basically got TKO'd vs Andrade. Andrade IMO gets the majority of his power from tiring out his opponent...I think if Edison pops him good Bute is going to feel it. How many true big time punchers especially ones as aggressive as Miranda has Bute fought?

    As for Guinn, Povetkin is either going to have to tire out or trade with Guinn to lose. OR Guinn could FINALLY come out of his "I don't want to hurt anybody" shell...I knew he didn't have the "killer instinct" when he fought Michael Grant and just carried him.....horrible. But make no bones about it DG is a tough cookie, he's never been down, never been stopped, and only been outworked by guys who establish and use the jab effectively or have very solid defense so that's something to think about.

    Friday Ahunaya vs David Tua won't be a walk in the park either seeing how Tua isn't active enough to have any fights considered "easy"...could be a good action fight depending on how heavy each fighter is
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    Cintron and Angulo fought already

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    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Cintron and Angulo fought already
    ....shit, sorry about that. Major brain fart......Angulo is fighting "The Love Child" Joel Julio. That would be an upset and I think it could happen.....of course I have to now

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    could malignaggi beating khan be considered an upset?? i definitely think paulies shining moment could come in may. Amir has never fought on the biggest stage of all, paulies been doing it for years. Khans biggest wins have come against front footed aggressors which suits his in and out style perfectly.

    Malignaggi will give him the run around for the first 2 3rds of the fight and khan will become desperate and will eventually get picked off by paulie.

    Also martinez definitely beats pavlik if his last 2 outings are anything to go by. Sergio will relish that underdog tag and kellys gonna be eating sharp lefts all night
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    Bute will destroy Miranda inside 6 rounds. I like Miranda but he can't box at the elite level. Sure, he can punch, but Bute is a very good boxer with power. Berrio and Zuniga were big punchers like Miranda even if not on his level and Bute handled them with ease. I see this playing out like the Zuniga fight. I don't see that fight going the distance at all.

    Mosley over Mayweather is an upset that actually could happen. Martinez over Pavlik, but I'm not sure that is a big upset - a lot of people are picking Martinez.

    The Povetkin call makes sense as does the Urango call.

    Yordan over Caballero?

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    Haye-Wlad later down the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Bute will destroy Miranda inside 6 rounds. I like Miranda but he can't box at the elite level. Sure, he can punch, but Bute is a very good boxer with power. Berrio and Zuniga were big punchers like Miranda even if not on his level and Bute handled them with ease. I see this playing out like the Zuniga fight. I don't see that fight going the distance at all.

    Mosley over Mayweather is an upset that actually could happen. Martinez over Pavlik, but I'm not sure that is a big upset - a lot of people are picking Martinez.

    The Povetkin call makes sense as does the Urango call.

    Yordan over Caballero?

    miranda deserved to get the decision over abraham 1st time around and was only thwarted due to some very dodgy dare i say biased decision making by the ref.

    But he isnt the same fighter anymore, he cant decide on a division to settle and seemingly appears to be going backwards in his career. Was stunned how outclassed he was against ward.

    No way it`ll be a 6round job but i definitely see stoppage potential for bute in that one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Oh I totally forgot one but it's not really an "upset" because I really rate Glen Johnson but I would not be shocked if Glen Johnson tore up Tavoris Cloud. It would be kind of bitter sweet as Glen Johnson is a true class act but I really like Cloud....but the kid just doesn't BOX enough and he'll be in with a guy who is WAAAAYYY too dangerous to simply rely on your power to overwhelm him. You could see when Cloud fought Clinton Woods that he got busted up a couple times with counters and Woods can't punch like Johnson can.

    Bute basically got TKO'd vs Andrade. Andrade IMO gets the majority of his power from tiring out his opponent...I think if Edison pops him good Bute is going to feel it. How many true big time punchers especially ones as aggressive as Miranda has Bute fought?

    As for Guinn, Povetkin is either going to have to tire out or trade with Guinn to lose. OR Guinn could FINALLY come out of his "I don't want to hurt anybody" shell...I knew he didn't have the "killer instinct" when he fought Michael Grant and just carried him.....horrible. But make no bones about it DG is a tough cookie, he's never been down, never been stopped, and only been outworked by guys who establish and use the jab effectively or have very solid defense so that's something to think about.

    Friday Ahunaya vs David Tua won't be a walk in the park either seeing how Tua isn't active enough to have any fights considered "easy"...could be a good action fight depending on how heavy each fighter is
    Lyle, team Miranda should put you on the payroll. No way does a club fighter beat Bute. The guy's got way too much class. Andrade would steamroll Miranda and considering Edison can't stop anything when his power isn't a factor Bute is going to use all 3 holes come fight night. Lube him up!

    We saw how smart Guinn isn't when he fought Toney. He had no business losing that fight. He's a natural heavy, has great pop and Toney has nothing to offer in the power department and still James schooled him. Toney could have done that for 24 rounds.

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    Miranda can punch and I think "even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then" and I think he's got the chance to land on a guy who has been careless enough to get caught by other not so great fighters. Bute damn well better play it safe vs Miranda early. Also Edison isn't above fouling the hell out of Bute to land punches too. If Miranda breaks Bute's jaw (which obviously can happen) like he broke Abraham's I don't see Bute having the success AA did.

    I know Guinn is a real long shot but I haven't been impressed by Povetkin. I've seen Povetkin get popped by Eddie Chambers enough to swell his eye shut and I've seen Povetkin gas out in the very same fight and had Eddie thrown ANYTHING in the last 3 rounds Povetkin would have been stopped...he was that tired. And he was ineffective with his attack BUT of course that's against Eddie Chambers' defense so I think he'll land on Guinn but he won't hurt Guinn and pair that with Guinn's power (when he throws) and Povetkin's questionable stamina then you've got a chance at an upset.

    The reason why they are called "upsets" is because they are unexpected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Miranda can punch and I think "even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then" and I think he's got the chance to land on a guy who has been careless enough to get caught by other not so great fighters. Bute damn well better play it safe vs Miranda early. Also Edison isn't above fouling the hell out of Bute to land punches too. If Miranda breaks Bute's jaw (which obviously can happen) like he broke Abraham's I don't see Bute having the success AA did.

    I know Guinn is a real long shot but I haven't been impressed by Povetkin. I've seen Povetkin get popped by Eddie Chambers enough to swell his eye shut and I've seen Povetkin gas out in the very same fight and had Eddie thrown ANYTHING in the last 3 rounds Povetkin would have been stopped...he was that tired. And he was ineffective with his attack BUT of course that's against Eddie Chambers' defense so I think he'll land on Guinn but he won't hurt Guinn and pair that with Guinn's power (when he throws) and Povetkin's questionable stamina then you've got a chance at an upset.

    The reason why they are called "upsets" is because they are unexpected.
    I seriously just do not understand the obsession this forum has with lucien bute

    Allan green apart there isnt a single fighter in the super 6 who wouldnt beat him to a pulp given half the chance

    heck pascal would take bute to school
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    I think Bute is skilled as hell and he may rip through Edison Miranda like he was a nobody, but I'm just saying there is a chance that Miranda catches him and I think if he hurts Bute then he's going to finish him off. I have my doubts about Bute's toughness is all...I think Bute might be able to take Kessler (unless he improves with his new trainer).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I think Bute is skilled as hell and he may rip through Edison Miranda like he was a nobody, but I'm just saying there is a chance that Miranda catches him and I think if he hurts Bute then he's going to finish him off. I have my doubts about Bute's toughness is all...I think Bute might be able to take Kessler (unless he improves with his new trainer).
    defence is rock solid early on but with bute you always get feeling that come 8-9 onwards he can tend to become flat footed and a big puncher will always stand a chance against him.

    His a world class fighter that always puts on a good show at the bell centre. But im convinced that the second he steps out of canada and fights genuine class like most of the super6 boys he is gonna get found out
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