Sauerland appeal succesful Froch v Abraham now for the vacant WBC Belt

[erics44]

Maybe I am looking to deep into this, but does this worry any Froch fans? Sauerland again seems to be taking control of this promotion and while Fat Mick is probably at KFC.

The Kessler fight for me was fair enough close fight hard to judge, Kessler was pressing the action and him winning the close rounds was fair enough, but If Sauerland is having this much influence with the WBC ( I don't blame the guy, getting every advantage possible for his fighter ) I just fucking hope we don't see that bent fat ugly cunt as a judge Tilleman.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion as you know but i honestly think froch battered Kessler from pillar to post and should have won a wide decision, i cannot see how anyone could have kessler winning the fight never mind by the scores a couple of the judges had it

it is a bit worrying that that could happen again

but i also think that AA got nowhere near Dirrell and his performance against Taylor was good but was taylor really at the races? i think taylor looked jaded from his recent KO losses

how good is AA? who has he fought at middleweight, edison mirranda? an old howard eastman?

i think he will have to show some steel to come through the fight and (aside from taylor) i dont think he has been in with anyone anywhere near as good as froch (queue the froch haters)

a level playing field i would put my house on a froch UD

[skel1983]

Maybe I am looking to deep into this, but does this worry any Froch fans? Sauerland again seems to be taking control of this promotion and while Fat Mick is probably at KFC.

The Kessler fight for me was fair enough close fight hard to judge, Kessler was pressing the action and him winning the close rounds was fair enough, but If Sauerland is having this much influence with the WBC ( I don't blame the guy, getting every advantage possible for his fighter ) I just fucking hope we don't see that bent fat ugly cunt as a judge Tilleman.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion as you know but i honestly think froch battered Kessler from pillar to post and should have won a wide decision, i cannot see how anyone could have kessler winning the fight never mind by the scores a couple of the judges had it

it is a bit worrying that that could happen again

but i also think that AA got nowhere near Dirrell and his performance against Taylor was good but was taylor really at the races? i think taylor looked jaded from his recent KO losses

how good is AA? who has he fought at middleweight, edison mirranda? an old howard eastman?

i think he will have to show some steel to come through the fight and (aside from taylor) i dont think he has been in with anyone anywhere near as good as froch (queue the froch haters)

a level playing field i would put my house on a froch UD

Like you say everyone is entitled to there opinion on the Kessler fight, now he did not beat him from piller to post, that's why Kessler was forcing th fight on the front foot for the whole 12 rounds , surely if that as the case Froch would of stopped him taking the centre of the ring?

Anyway thats gone we move on, my problem with that fight was Froch got beat ( or if you want was in a close fight ) with a fighter who looked a shadow of his former self, Kessler looked old against Ward and just as bad against Froch when I say that I compare this to the Kessler we saw stand Andrade on his head and the one who was sharp against Calzaghe.

Froch pre Kessler I have him beating AA, now I lean towards AA. Froch looked a change fighter in there for me his usually great engine went missing in the middle rounds and in the later rounds was fighting with heart and a second wind.

I think the last two years might have caught up with Froch he has been in 4 back to back full 12 rounds with very very good opponents he is now 33 years old, I want Froch to win and he deffo has a chance but I do have my doubts which I hope are wrong.

[erics44]

Maybe I am looking to deep into this, but does this worry any Froch fans? Sauerland again seems to be taking control of this promotion and while Fat Mick is probably at KFC.

The Kessler fight for me was fair enough close fight hard to judge, Kessler was pressing the action and him winning the close rounds was fair enough, but If Sauerland is having this much influence with the WBC ( I don't blame the guy, getting every advantage possible for his fighter ) I just fucking hope we don't see that bent fat ugly cunt as a judge Tilleman.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion as you know but i honestly think froch battered Kessler from pillar to post and should have won a wide decision, i cannot see how anyone could have kessler winning the fight never mind by the scores a couple of the judges had it

it is a bit worrying that that could happen again

but i also think that AA got nowhere near Dirrell and his performance against Taylor was good but was taylor really at the races? i think taylor looked jaded from his recent KO losses

how good is AA? who has he fought at middleweight, edison mirranda? an old howard eastman?

i think he will have to show some steel to come through the fight and (aside from taylor) i dont think he has been in with anyone anywhere near as good as froch (queue the froch haters)

a level playing field i would put my house on a froch UD

Like you say everyone is entitled to there opinion on the Kessler fight, now he did not beat him from piller to post, that's why Kessler was forcing th fight on the front foot for the whole 12 rounds , surely if that as the case Froch would of stopped him taking the centre of the ring?

Anyway thats gone we move on, my problem with that fight was Froch got beat ( or if you want was in a close fight ) with a fighter who looked a shadow of his former self, Kessler looked old against Ward and just as bad against Froch when I say that I compare this to the Kessler we saw stand Andrade on his head and the one who was sharp against Calzaghe.

Froch pre Kessler I have him beating AA, now I lean towards AA. Froch looked a change fighter in there for me his usually great engine went missing in the middle rounds and in the later rounds was fighting with heart and a second wind.

I think the last two years might have caught up with Froch he has been in 4 back to back full 12 rounds with very very good opponents he is now 33 years old, I want Froch to win and he deffo has a chance but I do have my doubts which I hope are wrong.

see all people ever say is kes was forcing the fight, on the front foot, and on the front foot is all i can give him, but he hardly landed any punches, i dont think he lands a punch of any note till the 6th

yep 6, 7 and 8 are kesslers best rounds but 9, 10 and 11 froch wins clearly so i dont think he engine failed him

i think on a level playing field the worry for me is froch does take too many punches in some fights and AA seems to have a dig, especially late on

and putting my house on it was a bit over the top, it could well be frochs hardest fight so far

[HattonTheHammer]

Maybe I am looking to deep into this, but does this worry any Froch fans? Sauerland again seems to be taking control of this promotion and while Fat Mick is probably at KFC.

The Kessler fight for me was fair enough close fight hard to judge, Kessler was pressing the action and him winning the close rounds was fair enough, but If Sauerland is having this much influence with the WBC ( I don't blame the guy, getting every advantage possible for his fighter ) I just fucking hope we don't see that bent fat ugly cunt as a judge Tilleman.

mate it wasnt close and there were no real close rounds either

kessler got beat up for 10 of the 12rounds and won a decision in his hometown, that tells you all you need to know

[skel1983]

Maybe I am looking to deep into this, but does this worry any Froch fans? Sauerland again seems to be taking control of this promotion and while Fat Mick is probably at KFC.

The Kessler fight for me was fair enough close fight hard to judge, Kessler was pressing the action and him winning the close rounds was fair enough, but If Sauerland is having this much influence with the WBC ( I don't blame the guy, getting every advantage possible for his fighter ) I just fucking hope we don't see that bent fat ugly cunt as a judge Tilleman.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion as you know but i honestly think froch battered Kessler from pillar to post and should have won a wide decision, i cannot see how anyone could have kessler winning the fight never mind by the scores a couple of the judges had it

it is a bit worrying that that could happen again

but i also think that AA got nowhere near Dirrell and his performance against Taylor was good but was taylor really at the races? i think taylor looked jaded from his recent KO losses

how good is AA? who has he fought at middleweight, edison mirranda? an old howard eastman?

i think he will have to show some steel to come through the fight and (aside from taylor) i dont think he has been in with anyone anywhere near as good as froch (queue the froch haters)

a level playing field i would put my house on a froch UD

Like you say everyone is entitled to there opinion on the Kessler fight, now he did not beat him from piller to post, that's why Kessler was forcing th fight on the front foot for the whole 12 rounds , surely if that as the case Froch would of stopped him taking the centre of the ring?

Anyway thats gone we move on, my problem with that fight was Froch got beat ( or if you want was in a close fight ) with a fighter who looked a shadow of his former self, Kessler looked old against Ward and just as bad against Froch when I say that I compare this to the Kessler we saw stand Andrade on his head and the one who was sharp against Calzaghe.

Froch pre Kessler I have him beating AA, now I lean towards AA. Froch looked a change fighter in there for me his usually great engine went missing in the middle rounds and in the later rounds was fighting with heart and a second wind.

I think the last two years might have caught up with Froch he has been in 4 back to back full 12 rounds with very very good opponents he is now 33 years old, I want Froch to win and he deffo has a chance but I do have my doubts which I hope are wrong.

see all people ever say is kes was forcing the fight, on the front foot, and on the front foot is all i can give him, but he hardly landed any punches, i dont think he lands a punch of any note till the 6th

yep 6, 7 and 8 are kesslers best rounds but 9, 10 and 11 froch wins clearly so i dont think he engine failed him

i think on a level playing field the worry for me is froch does take too many punches in some fights and AA seems to have a dig, especially late on

and putting my house on it was a bit over the top, it could well be frochs hardest fight so far

Punch stats say differently.

Kessler landed more punches and had the better percentage according to the stats.

Kessler - Total Thrown: 765, Total Connects: 147 (19%)
Froch - Total Thrown: 546, Total Connects: 98 (18%)

Kesslers accuracy in this fight is exactly my point, he is usually a pin point crisp puncher with great accuracy and in this fight he was slow and didn't land as much as he usually does and that against a guy in Froch whose defense is his jaw.

[skel1983]

Maybe I am looking to deep into this, but does this worry any Froch fans? Sauerland again seems to be taking control of this promotion and while Fat Mick is probably at KFC.

The Kessler fight for me was fair enough close fight hard to judge, Kessler was pressing the action and him winning the close rounds was fair enough, but If Sauerland is having this much influence with the WBC ( I don't blame the guy, getting every advantage possible for his fighter ) I just fucking hope we don't see that bent fat ugly cunt as a judge Tilleman.

mate it wasnt close and there were no real close rounds either

kessler got beat up for 10 of the 12rounds and won a decision in his hometown, that tells you all you need to know

Come on mate do you really think I would take your opinion on a fight involving a Brit if I had not seen the fight. I have watched the fight now plenty scored it. Close could of gone either way imo, but I have no problem with Kessler winning it.

I mean Steve fucking Bunce who is more bias than you when it comes to British fighters you no the guy who calls Tyson Fury the white Larry Holmes had Kessler winning.

[erics44]

Maybe I am looking to deep into this, but does this worry any Froch fans? Sauerland again seems to be taking control of this promotion and while Fat Mick is probably at KFC.

The Kessler fight for me was fair enough close fight hard to judge, Kessler was pressing the action and him winning the close rounds was fair enough, but If Sauerland is having this much influence with the WBC ( I don't blame the guy, getting every advantage possible for his fighter ) I just fucking hope we don't see that bent fat ugly cunt as a judge Tilleman.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion as you know but i honestly think froch battered Kessler from pillar to post and should have won a wide decision, i cannot see how anyone could have kessler winning the fight never mind by the scores a couple of the judges had it

it is a bit worrying that that could happen again

but i also think that AA got nowhere near Dirrell and his performance against Taylor was good but was taylor really at the races? i think taylor looked jaded from his recent KO losses

how good is AA? who has he fought at middleweight, edison mirranda? an old howard eastman?

i think he will have to show some steel to come through the fight and (aside from taylor) i dont think he has been in with anyone anywhere near as good as froch (queue the froch haters)

a level playing field i would put my house on a froch UD

Like you say everyone is entitled to there opinion on the Kessler fight, now he did not beat him from piller to post, that's why Kessler was forcing th fight on the front foot for the whole 12 rounds , surely if that as the case Froch would of stopped him taking the centre of the ring?

Anyway thats gone we move on, my problem with that fight was Froch got beat ( or if you want was in a close fight ) with a fighter who looked a shadow of his former self, Kessler looked old against Ward and just as bad against Froch when I say that I compare this to the Kessler we saw stand Andrade on his head and the one who was sharp against Calzaghe.

Froch pre Kessler I have him beating AA, now I lean towards AA. Froch looked a change fighter in there for me his usually great engine went missing in the middle rounds and in the later rounds was fighting with heart and a second wind.

I think the last two years might have caught up with Froch he has been in 4 back to back full 12 rounds with very very good opponents he is now 33 years old, I want Froch to win and he deffo has a chance but I do have my doubts which I hope are wrong.

see all people ever say is kes was forcing the fight, on the front foot, and on the front foot is all i can give him, but he hardly landed any punches, i dont think he lands a punch of any note till the 6th

yep 6, 7 and 8 are kesslers best rounds but 9, 10 and 11 froch wins clearly so i dont think he engine failed him

i think on a level playing field the worry for me is froch does take too many punches in some fights and AA seems to have a dig, especially late on

and putting my house on it was a bit over the top, it could well be frochs hardest fight so far

Punch stats say differently.

Kessler landed more punches and had the better percentage according to the stats.

Kessler - Total Thrown: 765, Total Connects: 147 (19%)
Froch - Total Thrown: 546, Total Connects: 98 (18%)

Kesslers accuracy in this fight is exactly my point, he is usually a pin point crisp puncher with great accuracy and in this fight he was slow and didn't land as much as he usually does and that against a guy in Froch whose defense is his jaw.

i am shocked at those stats, from what i can see they must be talking about any tap as a punch

[HattonTheHammer]

Kessler - Total Thrown: 765, Total Connects: 147 (19%)
Froch - Total Thrown: 546, Total Connects: 98 (18%)


blatant bollocks right there

froch threw twice as many punches as kessler did, especially early doors

stats have obviously been created by someone dyslexic working for sauerland

[erics44]

i cant see it

but im gonna stop going on about it coz im bored of listening to myself

lets hope froch does a number on abraham and then wins the comp

and lets hope dirrell doesnt get to the semis, and then retires because of a rare cock desease

[HattonTheHammer]

i cant see it

but im gonna stop going on about it coz im bored of listening to myself

lets hope froch does a number on abraham and then wins the comp

and lets hope dirrell doesnt get to the semis, and then retires because of a rare cock desease

haha, lol

ward-dirrell promises to be the worst fight of the year, froch-abraham will be a classic

[erics44]

i cant see it

but im gonna stop going on about it coz im bored of listening to myself

lets hope froch does a number on abraham and then wins the comp

and lets hope dirrell doesnt get to the semis, and then retires because of a rare cock desease

haha, lol

ward-dirrell promises to be the worst fight of the year, froch-abraham will be a classic

i watched the ward green fight recently, a repeat on eurosport and it was utter crap

[Master]

i cant see it

but im gonna stop going on about it coz im bored of listening to myself

lets hope froch does a number on abraham and then wins the comp

and lets hope dirrell doesnt get to the semis, and then retires because of a rare cock desease

haha, lol

ward-dirrell promises to be the worst fight of the year, froch-abraham will be a classic

i watched the ward green fight recently, a repeat on eurosport and it was utter crap

So did I and it is mainly Dirrell who makes it shite.

[rjj tszyu]

i cant see it

but im gonna stop going on about it coz im bored of listening to myself

lets hope froch does a number on abraham and then wins the comp

and lets hope dirrell doesnt get to the semis, and then retires because of a rare cock desease

haha, lol

ward-dirrell promises to be the worst fight of the year, froch-abraham will be a classic

Now that I can agree with. I DO think Kessler won the fight vs Froch BUT Abraham Froch has to be the potential FOTY. I'm just a little worried for Froch though, how long can his chin keep holding out with the amount he takes? Arthur is a big puncher too.