What a sad time it is in the heavyweights when wlad v haye is such a big fight!

[generalbulldog]

Wlad's weak chin is the reason why not too many can say he will hang with the ATGs in history.

Anyone who says Wlad couldn't hang with the ATGs in history is either A) ignorant, B)biased against the Klitschkos, or C) all of the above. Look at the guys who put Wlad on his ass. Samuel Peter, 240-250lbs with HUGE knockout power. Lamon Brewster, Corey Saunders... not the greatest fighters, but HUGE KO punchers. And like mentioned before, more often than not he gets up (and has come back to win)

Ain't just me, a lot of forum members believe that Wlad can't hang with Holyfield, Ali, Lewis, Holmes, Tyson, etc.

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...lewis-etc.html

[BIG H]

Wlad's weak chin is the reason why not too many can say he will hang with the ATGs in history.

Anyone who says Wlad couldn't hang with the ATGs in history is either A) ignorant, B)biased against the Klitschkos, or C) all of the above. Look at the guys who put Wlad on his ass. Samuel Peter, 240-250lbs with HUGE knockout power. Lamon Brewster, Corey Saunders... not the greatest fighters, but HUGE KO punchers. And like mentioned before, more often than not he gets up (and has come back to win)

Well clearly he didn't against those guys

[El Kabong]

Wlad's weak chin is the reason why not too many can say he will hang with the ATGs in history.

Anyone who says Wlad couldn't hang with the ATGs in history is either A) ignorant, B)biased against the Klitschkos, or C) all of the above. Look at the guys who put Wlad on his ass. Samuel Peter, 240-250lbs with HUGE knockout power. Lamon Brewster, Corey Saunders... not the greatest fighters, but HUGE KO punchers. And like mentioned before, more often than not he gets up (and has come back to win)

Well clearly he didn't against those guys

Just like Lennox Lewis didn't get up to win vs all time greats Oliver 'Cry Me A River' McCall and Hasim 'Watch for the Right Hand' Rahman....just saying

[rjj tszyu]

ok the hype for wlad vs haye is huge (i agree i get caught up in it) but when we actually look at it WHY?

Wlad has been on his backside sooo many times it untrue & lets be honest not fought any really good heavyweights (not his fault just no one abt)

Haye is soooo inexperienced in heavys he hasnt fought anyone who aint old & crap!

yet this is gonna be the biggest fight for i dont know how long

it shows what a state the heavyweight scene is in when we are going crazy for them 2 get the fight on!

opinions?

I agree neither are amongst the true ATG's of the sport. BUT they are both very good by todays standards and as a boxing fan I cannot complain about it. Boxing NEEDS the hype that surrounds this fight and I am hoping that this could be the beginning of the end of the worst era in the history of the glamour division of the greatest sport on earth.

[erics44]

bit of whining going on on this thread

the fight is alright, im interested in it

[Fenster]

Comparing Lewis with Wlad is absolutely pathetic. Where on Wlad's record are the exciting swift slaughterings of -

Ruddock
Golota
Grant
Briggs
Botha
Rahman
Morrison
Tyson

That's ignoring the dozen or more fighters Lewis annihilated.

Name one fight Wlad has shocked us all with a breathtaking performance? It Doesn't exist. Fact.

[El Kabong]

Comparing Lewis with Wlad is absolutely pathetic. Where on Wlad's record are the exciting swift slaughterings of -

Ruddock
Golota
Grant
Briggs
Botha
Rahman
Morrison
Tyson

That's ignoring the dozen or more fighters Lewis annihilated.

Name one fight Wlad has shocked us all with a breathtaking performance? It Doesn't exist. Fact.

....Wlad beat Botha and Rahman, I'm fairly certain he'd beat the rest of those guys as well, but its a moot point because it's not Wlad's fault he doesn't have those guys to fight.


Also anyone who thinks the Mike Tyson that Lennox Lewis beat would have "posed a threat" to Wlad (and I've chosen my words carefully here) is a fucking moron

[0james0]

Lewis never really beat "Tyson" in my eyes. Not the Tyson I knew and loved. Was a different fighter then, still good, but not the same animal.

I think any fighter I know would struggle vs a prime Vitali. Even Wlad wouldn't be easy for anyone, especially the Wlad of today, the one that is a much better fighter than when he was getting floored.

[rjj tszyu]

Comparing Lewis with Wlad is absolutely pathetic. Where on Wlad's record are the exciting swift slaughterings of -

Ruddock
Golota
Grant
Briggs
Botha
Rahman
Morrison
Tyson

That's ignoring the dozen or more fighters Lewis annihilated.

Name one fight Wlad has shocked us all with a breathtaking performance? It Doesn't exist. Fact.

....Wlad beat Botha and Rahman, I'm fairly certain he'd beat the rest of those guys as well, but its a moot point because it's not Wlad's fault he doesn't have those guys to fight.


Also anyone who thinks the Mike Tyson that Lennox Lewis beat would have "posed a threat" to Wlad (and I've chosen my words carefully here) is a fucking moron

The Tyson that Lennox beat was better than Sanders, Brewster and Purrity so he definitely posed a threat to Wlad.

[Fenster]

Comparing Lewis with Wlad is absolutely pathetic. Where on Wlad's record are the exciting swift slaughterings of -

Ruddock
Golota
Grant
Briggs
Botha
Rahman
Morrison
Tyson

That's ignoring the dozen or more fighters Lewis annihilated.

Name one fight Wlad has shocked us all with a breathtaking performance? It Doesn't exist. Fact.

....Wlad beat Botha and Rahman, I'm fairly certain he'd beat the rest of those guys as well, but its a moot point because it's not Wlad's fault he doesn't have those guys to fight.


Also anyone who thinks the Mike Tyson that Lennox Lewis beat would have "posed a threat" to Wlad (and I've chosen my words carefully here) is a fucking moron

Wlad wore down Botha in eight rounds and Rahman in seven. His performance in both fights doesn't even come close to the ruthless manner in which Lennox Lewis destroyed them (don't even try to bring up Lewis loss to Rahman because Wlad clearly beat a far fatter and ancient version).

As rjj tszyu said - the Tyson that Lewis beat would have been the most high profile and greatest win, should Wlad have won, of his career.

Now... you name the explosive performances Wlad has had that allows you to compare him so favourably with Lewis?

[El Kabong]

I'm not comparing them Fenster, I'm saying Wlad wins fights vs the guys in his division in his era....Wlad can't bring anyone back to fight he can only fight who is there. Explosive finishes for Wlad, well the Byrd rematch, Ray Austin, and Derrick Jefferson was a good finish too.

rjjtszyu, the Tyson that Lewis beat would get demolished by Wlad, the post prison Tyson gets beat by Wlad, and though Wlad may lose a few times to a Prime Tyson it wouldn't be easy for 'Iron' Mike to beat Wlad because of the style he fights with and the skills he possesses and sorry that's a FACT. Wlad's style always always always causes the peek-a-boo Rooney trained Tyson trouble. But feel free to disagree.

[Cressa121]

bit of whining going on on this thread

the fight is alright, im interested in it

True. I can't wait for it, a heavyweight unification fight between a dominant long running champ and a loud, cocky Brit who also holds a belt. What's not to like? The buildup should be fun, get some interest in the division again and as long as the fight itself isn't farcical it should be a good thing for boxing. Surely.