Mayweather

[ronsaxton]

LETS NOT FORGET!!!!

Ortiz was not to beat berto . . at all. Ortiz is not afraid to get hit . . at all. berto had never been beaten... at all.

berto was not suppose to lose ...at all.

maryweather cant should roll and duck all night on a guy that will fall and get up. . and fight, fall get and fight. maryweatehr is use to fighter freezing up on him after they get a taste of his speed. maryweathers knockout power is gone. Ortiz has plenty. i think Ortiz is going to shock everyone. i think mayweather is going to go down in the fight and his legs are not ever going to be the same the rest of the night. Ortiz will keep his belt and give mayweather his first L on the 17th. Mayweather is not dealing with a hatton, a mosely, a marquez. . he is dealing with a hungry young puncher with a very good chin. mayweathers time grows short and he is under estimating Ortiz as the whole bocxing world is. just like they did with Berto/ortiz.

[Rantcatrat]

LETS NOT FORGET!!!!

Ortiz was not to beat berto . . at all. Ortiz is not afraid to get hit . . at all. berto had never been beaten... at all.

berto was not suppose to lose ...at all.

maryweather cant should roll and duck all night on a guy that will fall and get up. . and fight, fall get and fight. maryweatehr is use to fighter freezing up on him after they get a taste of his speed. maryweathers knockout power is gone. Ortiz has plenty. i think Ortiz is going to shock everyone. i think mayweather is going to go down in the fight and his legs are not ever going to be the same the rest of the night. Ortiz will keep his belt and give mayweather his first L on the 17th. Mayweather is not dealing with a hatton, a mosely, a marquez. . he is dealing with a hungry young puncher with a very good chin. mayweathers time grows short and he is under estimating Ortiz as the whole bocxing world is. just like they did with Berto/ortiz.

No offense man, but this 100% wrong. Ortiz quit against Maidana and was outboxed for quite a few rounds by Peterson. What will happen here is Mayweather will outbox Ortiz early and take his will to win and probably ko him. I guarantee. We can sig bet this one.

[Hunter]

Maidana, Peterson and Berto gave Ortiz all he could handle. Floyd would have destroyed all those fighters. Mosley destroyed Margarito and people thought Mosley was back and better than ever and than Floyd destroyed Mosley. Ortiz had a good win against Berto so people are high on him but Ortiz is a flawed fighter and Floyd is not. I am not a floyd fan and would hope Ortiz would win but I am a realist. Dont get me wrong, every fighter has a chance in every fight but Ortiz chances are pretty slim!

I dont like Floyds attitude (although he does seem mellower) and I dont like his safety first style but he gets the job done.

[Chet Ripley]

Poor Ortiz, this kids in way over his head. You can see it in the little sit down they had with Max Kellerman. Ortiz is way too dumb to beat Mayweather. Ortiz beat Berto on a night were Berto just didnt have it from the start. Ive watched that fight at least five times and you can tell in his ring walk that Berto knew he didnt have on that particular night. Now Ortiz thinks he's king of the ring , but Floyd is gonna tear him up. I dont think Floyd will ko him but i do think he will win all but maybe 1 or 2 rounds. Just my personal opinion.

[JT Rock]

Keep playing yourself and ignore that except against Shane(who didn't throw) PAC has been getting hit more and more.. That's an irrefutable fact!! PAC punches in volume, but Floyd ranks tops in connect % and not getting hit.. Don't believe me? Look it up and see for yourself.. Look at the connect % of his opponents against him and tell me what stands out to you?

Floyd is proficient at every facet of boxing.. Inside, outside, offense and defense.. PAC has more vulnerabilities and Floyd will capitalize, he always has. When wad the last time PAC got roughed up on the inside? How will he handle it? I know PAC loves to eat straight rights and uppercuts.. Floyd serves those up with ease. Anything Marquez does Floyd can do better

[imp]

Theres a blueprint to beat the pacman..hes lost a few times already.

This saying will decide who wins if they ever fight.."a great boxer beats a great fighter ten times out of ten"

Manny pac is still on that timothey bradley level..even khan would give him problems.

If bob arum and freddie roach had to put a bet on the winner and there lives depended it on it they know it would be money everyday..and so do u.

[Tam Seddon]

I seriously don't see anyone beating him, not even Manny.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

I seriously don't see anyone beating him, not even Manny.

Maybe so.

If only Mayweather is thinking the way you do, then he would not have asked for that damn (currently not required) drug test.

[Chino]

I seriously don't see anyone beating him, not even Manny.

Maybe so.

If only Mayweather is thinking the way you do, then he would not have asked for that damn (currently not required) drug test.

It is not currently required the same way Manny's demands are not REQUIRED either, yet, Floyd did agree to every single demand Manny and his team asked from him. Floyd asks for one single demand he was also willing to go through and we heard all kinds of contradicting excuses from Manny, his team, and Arum.

Can Floyd lose? Of course. I think age takes its toll on every athlete, any sport. I can see Floyd losing to Manny as well as much as I see Manny losing to Floyd. Well said PSL.

[Master]

Without starting another thread can Floyd really attract PPV fights without fighting a Mexican opponent normally on Mexican Day or PPV star with a huge following like Hatton. What if Floyd fought Clottey, would that be worthy of a PPV?

[Chino]

Without starting another thread can Floyd really attract PPV fights without fighting a Mexican opponent normally on Mexican Day or PPV star with a huge following like Hatton. What if Floyd fought Clottey, would that be worthy of a PPV?

I root for Floyd but there are some things that confuse me a bit. He has put down some fights saying that the other guy can't sell but then again, why is he fighting Victor Ortiz? I mean, he's young and has shown in recent fights that he has the qualities to compete with the best out there but not sure if he's a great ticket/PPV seller.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Without starting another thread can Floyd really attract PPV fights without fighting a Mexican opponent normally on Mexican Day or PPV star with a huge following like Hatton. What if Floyd fought Clottey, would that be worthy of a PPV?

That's a good one. I never thought of that.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

I seriously don't see anyone beating him, not even Manny.

Maybe so.

If only Mayweather is thinking the way you do, then he would not have asked for that damn (currently not required) drug test.

It is not currently required the same way Manny's demands are not REQUIRED either, yet, Floyd did agree to every single demand Manny and his team asked from him. Floyd asks for one single demand he was also willing to go through and we heard all kinds of contradicting excuses from Manny, his team, and Arum.

Can Floyd lose? Of course. I think age takes its toll on every athlete, any sport. I can see Floyd losing to Manny as well as much as I see Manny losing to Floyd. Well said PSL.

Okey, let's go over Manny's allege demands. If I recall it right, it's the glove size, ring size and the purse split.

Manny allegedly asked for the 8 oz gloves. Those were the same glove size used when Floyd fought JMM which was prior to that negotiation. Floyd has the upper hand to demand what size of glove they use in the JMM fight and opted for the 8 oz. So how did he give Pac a favor by agreeing to the 8 oz gloves?

Manny allegedly asked for a smaller ring size than what Floyd prefers. Does anyone here even know what's the ring size that were used in Floyd's previous fights? Is anyone here even sure that Floyd hasn't fought in the smaller ring size that was requested? Ring size is up to the agreement of both boxers and it is being made to appear that Floyd did Pac a favor by agreeing to the smaller ring. Did you even consider that Manny may have agreed to fight Floyd even with the bigger ring if Floyd had refused?

Floyd was said to have done Pac a favor by agreeing to the 50/50 purse split. That is what their purse split should really be, in the first place!

Did I miss any other Pac demands here?

What Floyd demanded on the other hand is not required by the commission and something that he hasn't even requested before? They were unable to agree halfway so I consider the failure of making the fight happen as being the fault of both.

Fast forward to sometime recent. Pac agreed to the test but Floyd still would not fight him and went on vacation. How come?

[Chino]

Okey, let's go over Manny's allege demands. If I recall it right, it's the glove size, ring size and the purse split.

And the $1,000,000 demand for extra pounds away from the weight limit. Something not sanctioned or anything but Floyd agreed just fine.

Did you even consider that Manny may have agreed to fight Floyd even with the bigger ring if Floyd had refused?

“May” agreed but he asked for a smaller ring and Floyd accepted.

Floyd was said to have done Pac a favor by agreeing to the 50/50 purse split. That is what their purse split should really be, in the first place!

And I agree with you on how the purse should be 50/50 but Floyd is well known for always asking for the bigger paycheck, yet, with Pac, he agreed on the 50/50 just fine.

Did I miss any other Pac demands here?

The $1,000,000 I mentioned on the first paragraph.

Fast forward to sometime recent. Pac agreed to the test but Floyd still would not fight him and went on vacation. How come?

Pac continues to “agree” to all kinds of tests except random with no cut-off weeks whatsoever. He wants a week or two of no tests for all the reasons we already heard from him, Roach, and Arum.

[Tam Seddon]

Ortiz is going to be taken to school, let's be honest about this it's either going to be a wide UD to floyd or late TKO. Floyd seriously needs to fight manny though.