Most pacman fans are singing a different tune...

[MMASUX]

I hope they don't fight for a 4th time. We all know JMM won the fight, don't give Bob and the boys a out to not face Mayweather. Let's get this fight done already, JMM has nothing left to prove to Pac and Roach, they have a lot left to prove to JMM and the boxing world.

That doesn't make any sense. What does Pacquiao fighting Mayweather do for Marquez? He doesn't stand to make any money on that fight.

Let's assume Marquez had beat Pacquiao on the scorecards, would there be a point in a Mayweather fight? Because as far as Saddo posters go that is exactly what happened. Unless Pacquiao can avenge that close win over Marquez, I don't see what a Mayweather fight will show us. Do you just want to see Manny get destroyed? Enlighten me.

I meant it as Pac and roach feel like they have to prove themselves against JMM, not Mayweather. I didn't mean it to sound they have to prove it against Mayweather. How many times do JMM/Pac have to fight? they have had 3 great fights, let's move on now. I think JMM definitely won the last fight and now Pac/Roach/Arum feel they have to try again to back up all the shit they were talking before the fight. "Pac's no the same fighter as before....He will knock out JMM within 6 rounds...yada yada yada"

Pac may have won the fight on the cards, but they left the fight with the most questions marks. Do you want to see JMM/Pac 4? Yeah it would be another good fight, but we've done it 3 times now. It's now or never for Pac/Mayweather.

[Rantcatrat]

I hope they don't fight for a 4th time. We all know JMM won the fight, don't give Bob and the boys a out to not face Mayweather. Let's get this fight done already, JMM has nothing left to prove to Pac and Roach, they have a lot left to prove to JMM and the boxing world.

That doesn't make any sense. What does Pacquiao fighting Mayweather do for Marquez? He doesn't stand to make any money on that fight.

Let's assume Marquez had beat Pacquiao on the scorecards, would there be a point in a Mayweather fight? Because as far as Saddo posters go that is exactly what happened. Unless Pacquiao can avenge that close win over Marquez, I don't see what a Mayweather fight will show us. Do you just want to see Manny get destroyed? Enlighten me.

I meant it as Pac and roach feel like they have to prove themselves against JMM, not Mayweather. I didn't mean it to sound they have to prove it against Mayweather. How many times do JMM/Pac have to fight? they have had 3 great fights, let's move on now. I think JMM definitely won the last fight and now Pac/Roach/Arum feel they have to try again to back up all the shit they were talking before the fight. "Pac's no the same fighter as before....He will knock out JMM within 6 rounds...yada yada yada"

Pac may have won the fight on the cards, but they left the fight with the most questions marks. Do you want to see JMM/Pac 4? Yeah it would be another good fight, but we've done it 3 times now. It's now or never for Pac/Mayweather.

Why do you want to see Pacquiao versus Mayweather? Do you think it will be a good fight?

Pacquiao has been made to look the villain, which is different than in the past. It's not like we're seeing bad fights between two average boxers either. We're seeing top quality boxing matches between future hall of famers. I understand though if you're bored of the fights. I'm not, but that makes sense in a way because they have fought 3 times already.

[MMASUX]

I hope they don't fight for a 4th time. We all know JMM won the fight, don't give Bob and the boys a out to not face Mayweather. Let's get this fight done already, JMM has nothing left to prove to Pac and Roach, they have a lot left to prove to JMM and the boxing world.

That doesn't make any sense. What does Pacquiao fighting Mayweather do for Marquez? He doesn't stand to make any money on that fight.

Let's assume Marquez had beat Pacquiao on the scorecards, would there be a point in a Mayweather fight? Because as far as Saddo posters go that is exactly what happened. Unless Pacquiao can avenge that close win over Marquez, I don't see what a Mayweather fight will show us. Do you just want to see Manny get destroyed? Enlighten me.

I meant it as Pac and roach feel like they have to prove themselves against JMM, not Mayweather. I didn't mean it to sound they have to prove it against Mayweather. How many times do JMM/Pac have to fight? they have had 3 great fights, let's move on now. I think JMM definitely won the last fight and now Pac/Roach/Arum feel they have to try again to back up all the shit they were talking before the fight. "Pac's no the same fighter as before....He will knock out JMM within 6 rounds...yada yada yada"

Pac may have won the fight on the cards, but they left the fight with the most questions marks. Do you want to see JMM/Pac 4? Yeah it would be another good fight, but we've done it 3 times now. It's now or never for Pac/Mayweather.

Why do you want to see Pacquiao versus Mayweather? Do you think it will be a good fight?

Pacquiao has been made to look the villain, which is different than in the past. It's not like we're seeing bad fights between two average boxers either. We're seeing top quality boxing matches between future hall of famers. I understand though if you're bored of the fights. I'm not, but that makes sense in a way because they have fought 3 times already.

WOW!! are we really asking the question why we want to see Pac/Mayweather? This is the fight all have been asking for for the last 3 years, now all of a sudden you don't want to see it? I just think the fight needs to happen now or it will never happen. I agree Pac/JMM 4 would probably be another great fight, but what do the two have left to prove against each other?

So let's say Pac/JMM does happen again in march or april of next year, do you really think Pac/Mayweather happens later that year? Or if JMM actually gets the win on the cards do you want to see Mayweather/JMM 2? I don't think Pac/Mayweather happens if pac gets the win and i don't want to see Mayweather/JMM 2 if JMM gets the win.

[LukeH]

I hope they don't fight for a 4th time. We all know JMM won the fight, don't give Bob and the boys a out to not face Mayweather. Let's get this fight done already, JMM has nothing left to prove to Pac and Roach, they have a lot left to prove to JMM and the boxing world.

That doesn't make any sense. What does Pacquiao fighting Mayweather do for Marquez? He doesn't stand to make any money on that fight.

Let's assume Marquez had beat Pacquiao on the scorecards, would there be a point in a Mayweather fight? Because as far as Saddo posters go that is exactly what happened. Unless Pacquiao can avenge that close win over Marquez, I don't see what a Mayweather fight will show us. Do you just want to see Manny get destroyed? Enlighten me.

I meant it as Pac and roach feel like they have to prove themselves against JMM, not Mayweather. I didn't mean it to sound they have to prove it against Mayweather. How many times do JMM/Pac have to fight? they have had 3 great fights, let's move on now. I think JMM definitely won the last fight and now Pac/Roach/Arum feel they have to try again to back up all the shit they were talking before the fight. "Pac's no the same fighter as before....He will knock out JMM within 6 rounds...yada yada yada"

Pac may have won the fight on the cards, but they left the fight with the most questions marks. Do you want to see JMM/Pac 4? Yeah it would be another good fight, but we've done it 3 times now. It's now or never for Pac/Mayweather.

Why do you want to see Pacquiao versus Mayweather? Do you think it will be a good fight?

Pacquiao has been made to look the villain, which is different than in the past. It's not like we're seeing bad fights between two average boxers either. We're seeing top quality boxing matches between future hall of famers. I understand though if you're bored of the fights. I'm not, but that makes sense in a way because they have fought 3 times already.

So you dont want Pac and Mayweather to fight? Does that mean them not fighting can be removed as a negative from Mayweather resume?

[Althugz]

So you dont want Pac and Mayweather to fight? Does that mean them not fighting can be removed as a negative from Mayweather resume?

EXACTLY why I want the two to fight - Pacman has ALWAYS gotten a bye when it comes to being at fault with making the fight happen, Pacman has always gotten credit for the things MM has caught shit for (The latest : Shutting out Marquez at the weight that Pacman ROBBED him).

We've constantly had to hear shit about how MM would get KTFO by Pacman and he's a chicken blah blah blah when he ain't the one fighting catch-weights, people's leftovers or winning fake belts.

So yeah, I definitely wanna see Pacman get his ass kicked by MM for all the shit his team and fans have spouted about the whole thing. (oh but suddenly nobody wants the Mayweather fight..scared much??)

It would be no more than both fighters deserve in my opinion. Pac to be exposed for the fraud that he is and Floyd to cap off a hall of fame career finally getting the appreciation he deserves..of course, IMO.

[Manos de Piedra]

So you dont want Pac and Mayweather to fight? Does that mean them not fighting can be removed as a negative from Mayweather resume?

EXACTLY why I want the two to fight - Pacman has ALWAYS gotten a bye when it comes to being at fault with making the fight happen, Pacman has always gotten credit for the things MM has caught shit for (The latest : Shutting out Marquez at the weight that Pacman ROBBED him).

We've constantly had to hear shit about how MM would get KTFO by Pacman and he's a chicken blah blah blah when he ain't the one fighting catch-weights, people's leftovers or winning fake belts.

So yeah, I definitely wanna see Pacman get his ass kicked by MM for all the shit his team and fans have spouted about the whole thing. (oh but suddenly nobody wants the Mayweather fight..scared much??)

It would be no more than both fighters deserve in my opinion. Pac to be exposed for the fraud that he is and Floyd to cap off a hall of fame career finally getting the appreciation he deserves..of course, IMO.

Exactly what I wanted to say but you put it into words better.

[arcanum26]

So you dont want Pac and Mayweather to fight? Does that mean them not fighting can be removed as a negative from Mayweather resume?

EXACTLY why I want the two to fight - Pacman has ALWAYS gotten a bye when it comes to being at fault with making the fight happen, Pacman has always gotten credit for the things MM has caught shit for (The latest : Shutting out Marquez at the weight that Pacman ROBBED him).

We've constantly had to hear shit about how MM would get KTFO by Pacman and he's a chicken blah blah blah when he ain't the one fighting catch-weights, people's leftovers or winning fake belts.

So yeah, I definitely wanna see Pacman get his ass kicked by MM for all the shit his team and fans have spouted about the whole thing. (oh but suddenly nobody wants the Mayweather fight..scared much??)

It would be no more than both fighters deserve in my opinion. Pac to be exposed for the fraud that he is and Floyd to cap off a hall of fame career finally getting the appreciation he deserves..of course, IMO.

Only a minority (including yourself) called manny a fraud. I dare anyone in this forum to call him a fraud. Your definition of being a fraudulent fighter would be anyone else other than floyd. I can respect your admiration for floyd, I think he beats manny too. But dude the hatred, manny has achieved more than any other current boxers today (certainly above lw and ww) other than floyd. Hell, I'm even going to give you Marquez.

He's a beast. So are manny and floyd. But going on over and over again about how fake manny is being a fighter, I dare you to go and replicate his achievements. Hell, just go inside the ring and get a sanctioned "belt". Wouldn't care if it's the aluminum belt of turkey or whatever. You haters are so full of it. It's so fucking easy to nitpick a fighter's resume after all's been said and done, but before that, who can give an accurate prediction of what's going to happen??

A whole lot of learned boxing experts placed their bets on odlh even after roach said he's shot. Certainly more so on the hatton fight and the latter ones. Dude I'm not pissing on floyd's achievements. I know he's the real deal and would probably win a fight against manny, but consistently calling manny out like he's charlie zelenoff, Jesus christ. Give it a break.

I'm drunk here, I know. But we can all be nostradamus reborn when all's been said and done. So the fuck what if he got beat by Marquez in the last fight (got it 7 marquez -5 pacquiao), it's not like Ali didn't have Norton. Ali is a fraud then?? Jesus h christ. I swear some of you guys probably got abused as a child by a wandering toy peddler with the name that rhymes with pacquiao.

[Althugz]

Haha the Turkish aluminium belt? I could probably win that..but i want pacquiao next in Turkey with 3 turkish judges and my uncle with motorbike handlebar moustache to be the ref. Naturally i'm the draw so 90-10 split sounds fair..

Relax yourself..i dont hate manny. He has a great record pre-morales 3 and he comes accross likable. Great lil fighter too..he's a fraud because of his team, not his record.
Roach, Arum, Ariza,Koncz..come on! Biggest snake oil sellers in boxing. Then the pac fans..fuck dont get me started me on them..it makes it hard to like Pacquiao as a "boxing" fan. Its a shame because he's a victim of his teams nonsense.

If he turned around and said "STFU Arum you bumbling old wanker and Roach, you can suck my Fillipino cock while i rest my balls on Koncz' eyes....I'm fighting Mayweather!!", i'd have infinitely more respect for him..but other than that, he's a good kid

P.s yes my abusive step-fathers name rhymed with pacquiao, he looked like michael koncz, od'd me on steroids like alex ariza and robbed my mum like Bob Arum robbed Marquez. Thats why its so hard for to like pacquiao! (not really that never happened lolz)

[Fenster]

Haha the Turkish aluminium belt? I could probably win that..but i want pacquiao next in Turkey with 3 turkish judges and my uncle with motorbike handlebar moustache to be the ref. Naturally i'm the draw so 90-10 split sounds fair..

Relax yourself..i dont hate manny. He has a great record pre-morales 3 and he comes accross likable. Great lil fighter too..he's a fraud because of his team, not his record.
Roach, Arum, Ariza,Koncz..come on! Biggest snake oil sellers in boxing. Then the pac fans..fuck dont get me started me on them..it makes it hard to like Pacquiao as a "boxing" fan. Its a shame because he's a victim of his teams nonsense.

If he turned around and said "STFU Arum you bumbling old wanker and Roach, you can suck my Fillipino cock while i rest my balls on Koncz' eyes....I'm fighting Mayweather!!", i'd have infinitely more respect for him..but other than that, he's a good kid

P.s yes my abusive step-fathers name rhymed with pacquiao, he looked like michael koncz, od'd me on steroids like alex ariza and robbed my mum like Bob Arum robbed Marquez. Thats why its so hard for to like pacquiao! (not really that never happened lolz)

No disrespect, but that still wouldn't explain some of your ridiculous views

[Althugz]

Haha the Turkish aluminium belt? I could probably win that..but i want pacquiao next in Turkey with 3 turkish judges and my uncle with motorbike handlebar moustache to be the ref. Naturally i'm the draw so 90-10 split sounds fair..

Relax yourself..i dont hate manny. He has a great record pre-morales 3 and he comes accross likable. Great lil fighter too..he's a fraud because of his team, not his record.
Roach, Arum, Ariza,Koncz..come on! Biggest snake oil sellers in boxing. Then the pac fans..fuck dont get me started me on them..it makes it hard to like Pacquiao as a "boxing" fan. Its a shame because he's a victim of his teams nonsense.

If he turned around and said "STFU Arum you bumbling old wanker and Roach, you can suck my Fillipino cock while i rest my balls on Koncz' eyes....I'm fighting Mayweather!!", i'd have infinitely more respect for him..but other than that, he's a good kid

P.s yes my abusive step-fathers name rhymed with pacquiao, he looked like michael koncz, od'd me on steroids like alex ariza and robbed my mum like Bob Arum robbed Marquez. Thats why its so hard for to like pacquiao! (not really that never happened lolz)

No disrespect, but that still wouldn't explain some of your ridiculous views

You totally meant disrespect you filthbag! now i can't sleep...

[Kev]

All of a sudden they arent so interested in fight against floyd and all of a sudden the knew floyd would win. And his camp? well that fourth fight with marquez isnt such a great idea, what are they hoping will happen next time? plus the fact that this trilogy is 2-0-1, with two wins(on the record books) for manny, whats left to prove right? its too obvious the goal is simlply to avoid floyd, i like manny a whole lot, but his fans and his camp makes me mad enough to want to see him demolished.Its a shame really, i say bob and freddie stop being girls and get this getty going.

It seems to me that anyone who doesn't hate Pacquiao gets labelled a fanboy and a pactard.

It's a strange irrational hatred that I don't really understand.

[Boxer4life]

All of a sudden they arent so interested in fight against floyd and all of a sudden the knew floyd would win. And his camp? well that fourth fight with marquez isnt such a great idea, what are they hoping will happen next time? plus the fact that this trilogy is 2-0-1, with two wins(on the record books) for manny, whats left to prove right? its too obvious the goal is simlply to avoid floyd, i like manny a whole lot, but his fans and his camp makes me mad enough to want to see him demolished.Its a shame really, i say bob and freddie stop being girls and get this getty going.

It seems to me that anyone who doesn't hate Pacquiao gets labelled a fanboy and a pactard.

It's a strange irrational hatred that I don't really understand.

i don't believe ive used either of those words and i mentioned i like pacqiou, so maybe that statements true for some, i certainly hope it wasnt directed at me.