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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    I hear that. Using a lot of periods in between. incomplete. Sentences. MAkes. You sound really. Badass. Im sure you have. Way more heart. Than Cotto.
    That the way it works in the grammer world? Period usage is considered bad ass? Imagine that. Learn something new every day. It's moronic ass fuck. But it's still new

    Ass fuck? I mean clearly such homo erotic things are on your mind a lot but really, do you read your posts back to yourself and wonder what people must think of you? Since it's pretty clear that you care desperately enough to create a persona for yourself it might be worth a shot.

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    Funny. So cotto should have stood in one spot and traded with rito. He made rito look foolish. Blocking punches with his face. He destroyed rito and left him blind in one eye. Why try andwaste energy koing a guy doesn't fall. Has rito ever been koed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris6878 View Post
    Funny. So cotto should have stood in one spot and traded with rito. He made rito look foolish. Blocking punches with his face. He destroyed rito and left him blind in one eye. Why try andwaste energy koing a guy doesn't fall. Has rito ever been koed?
    ummm Mosley

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    Exactly, he employed the tactics which gave him the best chance to win, almost the same as he did in the first fight with a few slight adjustments that Venereal here wants to call cowardice. Just taking the fight and then employing a similar plan took a tonne of heart from Cotto, and moving laterally fighting off the backfoot was always the way he had to beat the guy, which he did emphatically.


    "Sad day in boxing" Given how few outlets there are to follow this sport anymore the saddest day in boxing I could point to is when this freaking cretin registered to post on this board.

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    I agree that Cotto didn't show heart in the fight, and Margarito did. The reason for that is, Margarito was nowhere near good enough to challenge Cotto to the point where Cotto's heart was an issue. What Cotto showed were brains and skills. He'll have to face a stiffer challenge than Margarito to prove his heart. As for Margarito, he clearly wanted to continue, and would have continued, showing his heart. Props to him, but that's about all he showed. He knew exactly what Cotto was going to do - stick & move, and target the eye. And he either wasn't smart enough, or wasn't good enough, to stop him. Couldn't get him early, before the eye became a factor, couldn't change angles and protect the eye, couldn't avoid the pinpoint punches. In short, he had absolutely no answer for the ideal fight plan that Cotto executed to a T.

    I have my suspicions, but I don't know whether or not the 2008 Margarito did/could have beaten Cotto cleanly. I do know that the 2011 Margarito sure can't. Regardless of what he did or didn't do in 2008, what Margarito is doing nowadays is fighting clean. And whether it's a coincidence or not, he's no longer among the elite (nor will he be again), and Cotto is. And he doesn't even have his reputation intact, which is either his fault or Capetillo's. But he does have a devoted cadre of (largely nationalistic) fans. When he's a bitter old man in the old folks home, they can slap him on the back and tell him how great he used to be. They may as well start now; his glory days are in the rear view mirror, and they're not getting any closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LobowolfXXX View Post
    I agree that Cotto didn't show heart in the fight, and Margarito did. The reason for that is, Margarito was nowhere near good enough to challenge Cotto to the point where Cotto's heart was an issue. What Cotto showed were brains and skills. He'll have to face a stiffer challenge than Margarito to prove his heart. As for Margarito, he clearly wanted to continue, and would have continued, showing his heart. Props to him, but that's about all he showed. He knew exactly what Cotto was going to do - stick & move, and target the eye. And he either wasn't smart enough, or wasn't good enough, to stop him. Couldn't get him early, before the eye became a factor, couldn't change angles and protect the eye, couldn't avoid the pinpoint punches. In short, he had absolutely no answer for the ideal fight plan that Cotto executed to a T.

    I have my suspicions, but I don't know whether or not the 2008 Margarito did/could have beaten Cotto cleanly. I do know that the 2011 Margarito sure can't. Regardless of what he did or didn't do in 2008, what Margarito is doing nowadays is fighting clean. And whether it's a coincidence or not, he's no longer among the elite (nor will he be again), and Cotto is. And he doesn't even have his reputation intact, which is either his fault or Capetillo's. But he does have a devoted cadre of (largely nationalistic) fans. When he's a bitter old man in the old folks home, they can slap him on the back and tell him how great he used to be. They may as well start now; his glory days are in the rear view mirror, and they're not getting any closer.
    Word.

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    Pretty clear now that the warrior who once went to war with Shane Mosley, Zab Judah, Ricardo Torres and others no longer exists. There is no warrior left in him. Warrior Cotto is now Track Meet Cotto. That performance was extremely disappointing. Yes he got the win. But anybody that thinks he showed heart is a fucking dumb ass. Margarito was coming off a brutal loss and an injury. Lot of rumors that he might be shot. The chance to massacre him is there on a silver platter. What Cotto do? He runs the whole fight. He spend all this time accusing Margarito. Saying he did this. He did that. You would think he would of gone out there looking to destroy the man who supposedly put his life in danger. But no. He instead shows up in the ring wearing his new pair of Usain Bolt's and proceeds to go out and fight like him. And to make it worse he cries like a bitch afterwards. Are you fucking kidding me? There's no crying in baseball. What the fuck makes fools think there's crying in boxing? Sad day in boxing indeed
    Margarito was the one left crying like a bitch hahaha, Cotto stood and traded with the powerless phoney Mexican once he had the fight in the bag, Cotto rocked Margarito back and forth Tony didn't flinched him, Margarito plodded forward and couldn't keep Cotto on the ropes, Miguel pushed his bitch back in to the ropes than just unloaded on him

    the sad part is that any entertaining or "great" win that Tony Margarito ever had in his entire career is now without a doubt labeled with a * right next to it, and yes that even means his wins over Cintron hahaha, for all we know the piece of shit probably even needed the wraps to get Golden Fucking Johnson out of there, again explain to me how the piece of shit is 1-3 since Plastergate
    That's just sad when you have to lie for your man. Margarito didn't want the fight stopped and never shed a tear. You really need me to provide pics of Cotto crying like a little hoe? Say the word and I'll gladly provide them for you.

    As for him being 1-3 since. Easy. He's shot. He's done as a fighter. Should retire. Take the 10 million he made in his last 2 fights and do whatever the fuck he wants

    There's a reason very few people question his wins beyound Cotto. To question his past wins means one is saying that every single commision and inspector who checked his wraps missed them. That's a lot missing by a lot of people. Moronic thinking. Nobody believes that. Minus boricuas that is
    VD you're a bitch haha suck the dick of anyone who's red white and green (well not in this case seeing how Tony is a FAKE Mexican), it's been a sad year for you, we (PR) took our hits and didn't put up bullshit excuses, Tony isn't shot, he just never was ever any good without the plaster, you can bitch, moan, and make up your own little stories, but seeing how you love to pull out "wins on paper" even if it goes down as a TKO11 W for Tony, Cotto just one upped his ass and got the same win, one round earlier, while pitching a shut out, it's boxing dipshit, not stand in front and trade, you're lucky you're little boyfriend Rios had Murray in there with him and not the likes of hell any top guy at 140 including Khan, cause that boy is about to be as "shot" as Tony is, Guerrero beats that pussy all night long, man up and shut up Venereal Disease
    Rios got the win. But guess what? He looked like a B fighter in the process. It's a fucking disgrace he let Murray get that far. He should be a fucking ashame of himself. I give Rios no credit for the win. Nothing. And yes I consider myself a Rios fan. But I got no problem telling it like it is. You and that other PR clown won't, don't and can't do that. Your quick to take offense to anything that ain't sucking your favorite fighters dick. I didn't deny Cotto his win. Didn't call it a bad stoppage either. Just stated the simple fact that the Cotto who went to war with Mosley, Torress and others is dead. Nothing wrong with that statement. Cuz guess what? That Cotto is dead. Instead of agreeing with a true fact you act like someone came in eye again and get all defensive. You claim y'all don't make excuses yet y'all bring up Lopez training location and problems with his whore after Salido whupped his ass. And Cintron's late start in boxing as the reason he didn't show heart and always failed. He showed no heart cuz he never had any. And he always failed cuz he's good at it

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    Can you debate anything without bringing up a man performing fellatio? My god you are pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Exactly, he employed the tactics which gave him the best chance to win, almost the same as he did in the first fight with a few slight adjustments that Venereal here wants to call cowardice. Just taking the fight and then employing a similar plan took a tonne of heart from Cotto, and moving laterally fighting off the backfoot was always the way he had to beat the guy, which he did emphatically.


    "Sad day in boxing" Given how few outlets there are to follow this sport anymore the saddest day in boxing I could point to is when this freaking cretin registered to post on this board.
    I couldn't agree more, I keep this "macho" retard on permanent ignore.

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    Tito i may be wrong but don't you shit on how Mayweather fights but Cotto does the same thing only not as good and gets a win on Margarito and its ok. If not then i take it back might be another poster. As for the fight I think Mosley and Pac pretty much ended Margaritos career and his eye was falling out to. I thought the fight was pretty good but not as dramatic as the other match but that would be a hard act to follow also watch it on stream not ppv so that might effect it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    You know, I was somewhat disappointed in Cotto's performance too - especially early on. I also thought his gameplan was going to lead to disaster, but I was totally wrong about that.

    While he soundly outboxed Margarito and dominated the fight, he did not look like someone who was out for revenge, just someone looking for a victory.

    I think a lot of the talk in the pre-fight build up led a lot of people to think that Cotto was going to try and hurt Margarito. Aside from targeting Margarito's right eye once it began to swell, he didn't really fight with any malice.

    Cotto did spend a lot of the fight running and he did look genuinely intimidate by his opponent. He also dominated the fight.

    See thats fair enough CFH, and actually worth responding to... But bottom line is there was going to be no sweeter revenge for Cotto THAN a victory, and clearly he wasn't going to beat Margarito going to war no matter how shot he may have been. If a guy is fighting off the backfoot but still landing good shots and winning rounds then the onus is on his opponent to make a fight of it, Margo wasn't able to do that for the vast majority of the fight and Cotto should take a lot of pride in that.
    That's fair. I think a lot of my initial disappointment in the way Cotto was fighting was that I thought it was going to lead to him getting stopped again. Obviously that didn't happen.

    I do think that he looked intimidated and wary of Margarito's power, especially at first, but he comprehensively out-boxed Margarito and fucked up that eye in the process. Like Leddermen said, it is possible to win a fight by running.

    The bottom line is that Cotto won decisively, albeit in a somewhat (for me at least) disappointing manner. That's much better than him going to war and losing.

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    I kind of agree with VD. Cotto held more and did a lot of moving.

    He was extremely respectful of a fighter who was seemingly now without his wraps and who nonetheless marked him up the same as the previous fight at the end of the 9th.

    Still, Cotto was the better boxer. No doubt about that. No way as tough as Margarito though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    He was extremely respectful of a fighter who was seemingly now without his wraps and who nonetheless marked him up the same as the previous fight at the end of the 9th.
    That's just called being smart. See also: Leonard/Duran 2 vs. 1, and 5 out of 6 Robinson/LaMotta fights. It's not a toughman contest. Cotto knew that the only way Margarito had a chance was if they slugged it out toe-to-toe; he didn't do it. Margarito knew that Cotto was going to stick and move, and target the eye, and he had no counter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Exactly, he employed the tactics which gave him the best chance to win, almost the same as he did in the first fight with a few slight adjustments that Venereal here wants to call cowardice. Just taking the fight and then employing a similar plan took a tonne of heart from Cotto, and moving laterally fighting off the backfoot was always the way he had to beat the guy, which he did emphatically.


    "Sad day in boxing" Given how few outlets there are to follow this sport anymore the saddest day in boxing I could point to is when this freaking cretin registered to post on this board.
    I couldn't agree more, I keep this "macho" retard on permanent ignore.
    If I ignore you than what the fuck would I have to laugh and ridicule? Either way the ignore function is for fags and cowards. So really I'm not surprised you use it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Exactly, he employed the tactics which gave him the best chance to win, almost the same as he did in the first fight with a few slight adjustments that Venereal here wants to call cowardice. Just taking the fight and then employing a similar plan took a tonne of heart from Cotto, and moving laterally fighting off the backfoot was always the way he had to beat the guy, which he did emphatically.


    "Sad day in boxing" Given how few outlets there are to follow this sport anymore the saddest day in boxing I could point to is when this freaking cretin registered to post on this board.
    I couldn't agree more, I keep this "macho" retard on permanent ignore.
    If I ignore you than what the fuck would I have to laugh and ridicule? Either way the ignore function is for fags and cowards. So really I'm not surprised you use it

    How about your sorry ass self, got a mirror handy? And still can't post one thing without a gay reference huh, shocker.
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