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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    not read it but from what you're saying this is someone he knew for some years growing up as a teenager. The person in question would have been an authority figure, someone he would have trusted. I don't think you people realise how abuse and grooming works

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    not read it but from what you're saying this is someone he knew for some years growing up as a teenager. The person in question would have been an authority figure, someone he would have trusted. I don't think you people realise how abuse and grooming works

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    Leonard is the victim in this and should not be blamed for the indecent assault. The abuser used his position of trust and he should be the one targeted. It is easy to say what you would do now but in that situation you may not know what to do or react.
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    I get the jokes and crass humor but people always claim what they would do in a situation and truth be told no one can honestly say how they would react if their coach, somewho who they trust and someone who's been with them for such a long time, would suddenly do this.

    Who would have believed him if he suddenly went out and said it? He would have been ostracized, people would have called him a queer who's jealous that the coach didn't reciprocate his feelings. After all the coach was a well respected trainer and he was just a young 20 something year old kid.

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    We will never know the truth.
    Unfortunately the abuser has escaped with this act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Leonard is the victim in this and should not be blamed for the indecent assault. The abuser used his position of trust and he should be the one targeted. It is easy to say what you would do now but in that situation you may not know what to do or react.
    Normally I'd agree with you, but a 22 year old should have things figured out.
    The thing is, I really don't care one way or the other, everyone is welcome to be as gay as they want, it's just curious the way he tells it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavilaJones View Post
    I get the jokes and crass humor but people always claim what they would do in a situation and truth be told no one can honestly say how they would react if their coach, somewho who they trust and someone who's been with them for such a long time, would suddenly do this.

    Who would have believed him if he suddenly went out and said it? He would have been ostracized, people would have called him a queer who's jealous that the coach didn't reciprocate his feelings. After all the coach was a well respected trainer and he was just a young 20 something year old kid.
    I can't say I would have kicked his ass but I wouldn't let my cock remain in his mouth. I probably would have said no thank you and not call or send flowers

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    I don't think anybody would deny that it is abuse, but most would resist in some way and certainly as a 22 year old man. 22 isn't 12, you are a man of the world at that age and a boxer too. If someone went near my flies, then they would have an immediate knee in the face. Now wouldn't that be the reaction of most? Would you just sit there, get a hard on, and allow someone to suck you off? It sounds weird because it is weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Leonard is the victim in this and should not be blamed for the indecent assault. The abuser used his position of trust and he should be the one targeted. It is easy to say what you would do now but in that situation you may not know what to do or react.
    Normally I'd agree with you, but a 22 year old should have things figured out.
    The thing is, I really don't care one way or the other, everyone is welcome to be as gay as they want, it's just curious the way he tells it.
    Exactly.

    Leonard wasnt under 16.
    He was a man. He might still be fighting his true feelings to this day.

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    Personally, I find it childish
    SRL was a notorious bad father to his own children, he abused them in a certain sense because of his selfishness and ego. Personally, I believe, this is where he should have acted like a man, not by sharing his child abuse experience
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    Quote Originally Posted by NVSemin View Post
    Personally, I find it childish
    SRL was a notorious bad father to his own children, he abused them in a certain sense because of his selfishness and ego. Personally, I believe, this is where he should have acted like a man, not by sharing his child abuse experience
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NVSemin View Post
    Personally, I find it childish
    SRL was a notorious bad father to his own children, he abused them in a certain sense because of his selfishness and ego. Personally, I believe, this is where he should have acted like a man, not by sharing his child abuse experience
    let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
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    If he felt it was inappropriate, let him speak on it. No man would just jump up and say that- especially when no one asked him about it before. He volunteered the information to the public. Let's let this speak for itself, without judging him and without casting the blame on him,
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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    If he felt it was inappropriate, let him speak on it. No man would just jump up and say that- especially when no one asked him about it before. He volunteered the information to the public. Let's let this speak for itself, without judging him and without casting the blame on him,
    I rather judge him and call him a fag

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    If he felt it was inappropriate, let him speak on it. No man would just jump up and say that- especially when no one asked him about it before. He volunteered the information to the public. Let's let this speak for itself, without judging him and without casting the blame on him,
    I rather judge him and call him a fag
    That's sad man.
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