154 lbs amatuer boxer VS NFL player with some streetfighting experience

[greynotsoold]

I've always thought when someone talked about having a street fighting style it just meant they didn't know anything about throwing or avoiding a punch.

How's that boxing career of Mark gastineau and Kimbo going

Today's Kimbo is more than just a streetfighter imo.. His boxing technique is tolerable..

There arent too many streetfighters with punching form like his..

A guy from my neighborhood- he's almost as old as me now, so i suspect he's slowed down some- used to punch like joe louis. He threw the hardest right hand i have ever seen and it was real short and straight from the shoulder. He told me once that, had he known where to find a boxing gym when he was a kid, he never would have gone to prison.

[jahmez]

Put it this way - how many punches does the average "tough guy" throw a year? Even a "street fighter" probably throws a maximum of five a week and they don't count because the bloke he belted was probably pissed, outnumbered 3 to 1 and had his body turned to the side towards some glamour he would otherwise later fuck. More importantly, how many punches are thrown at the tough guy a year? Even the most untalented, part - time enthusiast who hits the gym three days a week still should be throwing around 1,000 punches per session against all kinds of apparatus under the supervision of a trainer and mates who know how to fight. More importantly once he starts even the most rudimentary 3 rounds of sparring he'll be forced to learn how to avoid at least 300 punches or so per session. Unless the footy guy just bumrushes and tackles him, if the little bloke opens up big boy is going to be absolutely clueless.

[FinitoElDinamita]

[Spicoli]

I've always thought when someone talked about having a street fighting style it just meant they didn't know anything about throwing or avoiding a punch.

How's that boxing career of Mark gastineau and Kimbo going

Today's Kimbo is more than just a streetfighter imo.. His boxing technique is tolerable..

There arent too many streetfighters with punching form like his..

I can def respect a guy for looking to improve and doing the time. But from what I've seen it is glorified street fighting in a professional ring. When your introduced as a 'Internet sensation, street fighting champion' or whatever?! That's just all whack man.

[bigstinkybug]

A young guy that boxed with me for awhile in the mid 90s got himself into some trouble and had to do some time (at that privately run facility outside Baker, CA, for those familiar with the area). When he came home he was all fired up to know about Jesse James Leija- I'm sure most of you know who he is.
When I asked him why he told me about a guy he'd been locked up with. This guy was a black guy, small and slight built, but he got in a fight with three guys and lit them up like it was nothing, bobbing and weaving and throwing textbook punches. The kid I knew got to talking about him and learned that the guy used to box, and told the guy that he must have been great and could have been champ.
The guy said no, no way, he wasn't even an decent pro. He had been a real good amateur, great record, thought he was going to the top. Until he fought Jesse James and got knocked out. This was early on in their careers but he gave it up because he realized that there were other guys out there even better than Leija.

*as a 147pound fighter...amateur, I would've broke the NFL players jaw, if I was at my best... not talking bullshit, it's just the way it was. sooo, if a fighter ,amateur, as good as they say...amateur wins easily.
this is the way it was for me... I ran about 5 miles a day... 3 forward and 2 backwards with 3 pound weights in each hand... at my best, I took it easy on a daily bases. but make no bones about it, we got down at san Fernando. I remember some guys from another gym coming into San Fernando and watching us spar...he said"damn, u guys kill eachother in here"...
lieja was pro... I was amateur...they toyed with the idea of putting us in together ,once...but that was it. I outweighed him by 15 pounds maybe even 20 pounds... he was a cocky little fuker... but I think they thought someone would get hurt... I had a sexy left hook,very nasty... and James wasn't no punk...it was a bad combination.

[bigstinkybug]

*I'll say this... at my best... I was a bad mthr fker... no accolades, no states titles...just well trained from a boxing family. I spared with some top amatuers and more than held my own, if u get my drift.

I say it like this... I used to spar with a top middleweight...bad muthr fker... when I wasn't in shape, he would tee off...he was 6ft 1 inch... i'm 5'10...his arms are longer, his punches hurt..ALL his punches hurt, I couldn't stop him from coming in... WHEN I WASN'T IN SHAPE...same guy, when I was in shape...our arms r the same length, i'm countering his attacks and throwing with him, our eyes r at the same level, his punches don't hurt...that's the difference between" being in shape and not being in shape"

that said, u couldn't get me to throw a punch while in shape at an untrained guy. I had one guy actually jump me at a party and I guess he clipped me...I laughed,..said"it's kool" and walked off. man, when ur in shape, u can do that... i'm not sure if it makes any sense. I actually walked off with his girlfriend that night , she though it was kool that I didn't fight...lol... but regular folks r moving in slow motion when ur in shape. Ur 3 feet away and can close the distance in a split second... it never made sense to me to fight a guy outside,while in shape.

i'm some fat guy who talks shit on the internet NOW... and if u fk with me, it won't be pretty. but I never threw a punch outside the ring,while in shape...

[generalbulldog]

The 154 lbs amateur boxer would take this. Here's a turkish boxer, don't know if he's pro or not, but he's kicking some serious ass.

[X]

yes, yes, yes ..... But the real important question we should be debating is who would win between a small Ethiopian campfire and a size 9 sock with a hole in the toe.

[beenKOed]

yes, yes, yes ..... But the real important question we should be debating is who would win between a small Ethiopian campfire and a size 9 sock with a hole in the toe.

I was thinking more about a pecan vs a walnut with a small crack.

[Master]

The boxer should take his time and tire the NFL player and then take him out.

I also never thought Jesse James Leija was that good.

[FinitoElDinamita]

The boxer should take his time and tire the NFL player and then take him out.

I also never thought Jesse James Leija was that good.

By what standards? Bro, Jesse james leija was a very good fighter.

You stated in another thread that while daniel geale isn't a great fighter, he's still very good. Well I feel the same way about leija. How is he any different? Infact, leija was a higher level fighter than geale.

Lol @ geale. Leija is much better.

[jahmez]

The boxer should take his time and tire the NFL player and then take him out.

I also never thought Jesse James Leija was that good.

You've got to take the other guy out as fast as you can. 1-2 till he drops, 1-4 if it gets close then kick him in the head as soon as he's down. Once he sees you can fight he'll rush and tackle.