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    Default re: Tyson/JCC on Mayweather - We’re going to see how tough he is

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    So Manny is on a par with Hatton, Corrales and Gatti now? Gatti was a warrior journeyman, Corrales a skeleton, and Hatton was good but destroyed by Manny. Manny is the best Floyd has ever faced hands down and Floyd has been looking the older of the two recently. I can see the bad blood making Manny want to put a beating on Floyd. How can anyone compare Pac to Gatti? Gatti was tough as nails but Manny is a different class of fighter.
    I agree, People have not noticed that floyd was bullied around by maidana. The younger "pretty boy" version of floyd would have destroyed maidana, with no need of a rematch. THis is the older pot shot floyd. If Mannty fights like Manny then floyd is in for some shit. If manny fights like all the other floyd victims he will lose.

    What yall think wouldve happened if zab and or shane couldve kept the same pace from rounds 1-5 to round 12? They both took it to floyd and gassed out. Everyone wants to credit floyds adjustments, but they fail to mention that zab and shane both pretty much stopped punching, same for oscar.

    If manny realizes he can take floyds punches, and fights all 12 rounds I see manny taking floyd out. If manny gasses out early (which he never has!) Then I see floyd taking it on points.

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    Miguel Cotto did very well vs Floyd, his hands are slower, he's got a better jab, and more of a traditional work behind the jab technique but he tried southpaw here and there and Zab Judah had his moments vs Floyd and he's not on Pac's level either.

    1 of 2 things happen, #1 Manny connects early and often #2 Floyd's defense is too good. The longer the fight goes the more you have to favor Floyd. I'm not saying Manny needs him out by round 2 or anything, but Manny does need to win the early rounds and at the very least score a knockdown if it goes the distance

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    Default re: Tyson/JCC on Mayweather - We’re going to see how tough he is

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Miguel Cotto did very well vs Floyd, his hands are slower, he's got a better jab, and more of a traditional work behind the jab technique but he tried southpaw here and there and Zab Judah had his moments vs Floyd and he's not on Pac's level either.

    1 of 2 things happen, #1 Manny connects early and often #2 Floyd's defense is too good. The longer the fight goes the more you have to favor Floyd. I'm not saying Manny needs him out by round 2 or anything, but Manny does need to win the early rounds and at the very least score a knockdown if it goes the distance
    I agree with you. Re-watched the Cotto fight and boy did Cotto make him work. Floyd threw 687 punches, thats 57 per round which is alot more than Floyd's usual comfort zone of 30-40 punches per round.
    Manny has a higher work rate than Cotto and doesn't slow down either so Floyd may not have such an easy night as some may think. But I do think Floyd will be too smart for manny and have him confused with counters, to then go on and win a UD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Miguel Cotto did very well vs Floyd, his hands are slower, he's got a better jab, and more of a traditional work behind the jab technique but he tried southpaw here and there and Zab Judah had his moments vs Floyd and he's not on Pac's level either.

    1 of 2 things happen, #1 Manny connects early and often #2 Floyd's defense is too good. The longer the fight goes the more you have to favor Floyd. I'm not saying Manny needs him out by round 2 or anything, but Manny does need to win the early rounds and at the very least score a knockdown if it goes the distance
    Yes you've got it. Floyd gives away early rounds lately. They are there for the taking.

    Ill be very surprised if this fight does not go the distance, which favors Mayweather.

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    Pac took his foot off the gas vs Mosley and Margarito could have stopped both of them

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    Default re: Tyson/JCC on Mayweather - We’re going to see how tough he is

    Tyson is a fan of Pac, not of PBF.

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    Default re: Tyson/JCC on Mayweather - We’re going to see how tough he is

    I think this is the first time in a long time Mayweather will be in the ring with someone who is 1. not afraid of him. 2. someone that has institutional backing from the bigshots in the boxing game. and 3. someone that is of the elite calibre that Manny is, that can move and throw 7 punch combinations at will.

    Floyd faced fighters with one or two of those three intangibles before... Guerrero was unafraid, but clearly didn't not have the skills to compete... Oscar had the institutional backing and was also unafraid of Floyd, but was clearly over the hill by the time he fought Floyd... Floyd fought Ortiz, and it isn't saying much, but Ortiz was in awe of Floyd for the most part and got clocked as a result, and even if it went to a 12 round decision, Ortiz chances of winning diminished- in fact, his chances of winning, regardless of the punch out put and the compubox numbers and/or scoring one or two knockdowns, got smaller round after round.

    Manny is all three of those intangibles. All three. Plus a Southpaw.
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    That's just your personal opinion same as mine is mine.

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    That's just your personal opinion same as mine is mine.
    Smash, bro, People have lost the civility and the grace to disagree with others in a respectful manner and with good etiquette. Look at the nasty lowness of some of the reactions posters have on recent threads when they disagree. People have lost their literacy and good character, and now just react like rude dogs when they read something they don't agree with. It's a sign of the times we're living in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smashup View Post
    That's just your personal opinion same as mine is mine.
    Smash, bro, People have lost the civility and the grace to disagree with others in a respectful manner and with good etiquette. Look at the nasty lowness of some of the reactions posters have on recent threads when they disagree. People have lost their literacy and good character, and now just react like rude dogs when they read something they don't agree with. It's a sign of the times we're living in.
    Nah just cowards behind their keyboards. I know only a quarter of guys (maybe even lesser) online would actually speak their minds aggressively if at all in person.

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    It's cool with me and not something I give a flying fuck about and I've seen it all before over an 11 year membership 😉 but this fight will seriously light the fuses of certain members the nearer it gets and the bitching will go crazy - people getting banned etc so it's gonna be hilarious to read some of the future posts.
    It will completely take over some posters lives until after the fight 😄

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