88 yr old woman jailed 6 mos. for denying Holocaust ***WTF***

[walrus]

I don't think you should be in prison for having an unusual point of view. That is in itself a form of extremism.

Isn't Germany a democracy, how are laws putting someone in jail for such speech even possible.

[Gandalf]

The thing is if you are going to argue these kinds of things then surely you would have to put people in prison for believing in God who according to the Old Testament was really into genocide too. Or do you then put the people who don't believe in God in prison too as they are obviously denying Godly genocide? Either way it's a slippery slope to be locking people up for having opinions. The state is what led to Hitler, so using the state to silence freedom of speech is probably not the best way to advance anything.

[El Kabong]

The state is what led to Hitler, so using the state to silence freedom of speech is probably not the best way to advance anything.

This!

[walrus]

http://www.dailywire.com/news/6302/m...e-hank-berrien

Ah, it's a European thing I get it

[Spicoli]

I'll just sit my 'Murican arse over here and presume to tell a Country I have never visited nor hold citizenship in exactly how messed up they are and what's best for them.

Make it sound like she was just humble ol granny ma wrapped in blankets baking cookies and mumbling out of her window to passerby's. Gals been found guilty numerous times prior of -breaking the law- and hasn't served a day and won't, also takes public stages defending the "labor camps" and hands out pamphlets in courts..and to the Judges. And we demand Madonna go to jail for being a big mouth idiot

[walrus]

I'll just sit my 'Murican arse over here and presume to tell a Country I have never visited nor hold citizenship in exactly how messed up they are and what's best for them.

Make it sound like she was just humble ol granny ma wrapped in blankets baking cookies and mumbling out of her window to passerby's. Gals been found guilty numerous times prior of -breaking the law- and hasn't served a day and won't, also takes public stages defending the "labor camps" and hands out pamphlets in courts..and to the Judges. And we demand Madonna go to jail for being a big mouth idiot

No, if you or I did the same thing madonna did we would be in jail no comparison

[walrus]

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/2...ial-media.html

More from the fatherland

[walrus]

https://www.google.com/amp/foreignpo...eech-fail/amp/

[Spicoli]

I'll just sit my 'Murican arse over here and presume to tell a Country I have never visited nor hold citizenship in exactly how messed up they are and what's best for them.

Make it sound like she was just humble ol granny ma wrapped in blankets baking cookies and mumbling out of her window to passerby's. Gals been found guilty numerous times prior of -breaking the law- and hasn't served a day and won't, also takes public stages defending the "labor camps" and hands out pamphlets in courts..and to the Judges. And we demand Madonna go to jail for being a big mouth idiot

No, if you or I did the same thing madonna did we would be in jail no comparison

No, we'd be random thousands ranting about our elected leaders at any weekend bbq minus the fame, media, wealth and massive gap in our teeth.

[El Kabong]

I'll just sit my 'Murican arse over here and presume to tell a Country I have never visited nor hold citizenship in exactly how messed up they are and what's best for them.

Make it sound like she was just humble ol granny ma wrapped in blankets baking cookies and mumbling out of her window to passerby's. Gals been found guilty numerous times prior of -breaking the law- and hasn't served a day and won't, also takes public stages defending the "labor camps" and hands out pamphlets in courts..and to the Judges. And we demand Madonna go to jail for being a big mouth idiot

I'm stating my personal beliefs that what she said isn't something I'd ever agree with but she should be free to say it.....that's not telling a country to do anything.


As for the rest you'd have to be specific as to whom you're accusing of taking which stance because:
1. I haven't made the Nazi Granny sound like anything
2. Crazy that she did that so many times
3. Well Madonna wasn't arrested was she? Further proving my point....stupid people should be allowed to say stupid shit

[Spicoli]

I'll just sit my 'Murican arse over here and presume to tell a Country I have never visited nor hold citizenship in exactly how messed up they are and what's best for them.

Make it sound like she was just humble ol granny ma wrapped in blankets baking cookies and mumbling out of her window to passerby's. Gals been found guilty numerous times prior of -breaking the law- and hasn't served a day and won't, also takes public stages defending the "labor camps" and hands out pamphlets in courts..and to the Judges. And we demand Madonna go to jail for being a big mouth idiot

I'm stating my personal beliefs that what she said isn't something I'd ever agree with but she should be free to say it.....that's not telling a country to do anything.


As for the rest you'd have to be specific as to whom you're accusing of taking which stance because:
1. I haven't made the Nazi Granny sound like anything
2. Crazy that she did that so many times
3. Well Madonna wasn't arrested was she? Further proving my point....stupid people should be allowed to say stupid shit

Not everything is an accusation and not sure why you feel directly 'accused' as you were not mentioned nor quoted. The ***WTF*** and initial post minus links or even details seem fairly clear to response. I don't live in Germany or pretend to know their laws or live their current state of affairs. I cannot call a Country cowards because they are acting on first hand history.
1. She is a Nazi Granny so we'll agree there. A propagandist who broke the law numerous times to support an asinine theory stemmed in hate.
2. I know right. Apparently Nazi Granny and Germany also have a revolving door legal system and drawn out appeals process. We taught em well .
3. Again fully agreed and this Nations freedom to say stupid shit, freedom of speech and openly hold opposing views is rooted in defeating Nazi grannies and hatred put into action. A lesson Germany learned the hard way hence the anti Nazi Granny laws on the books I guess.
3a. Relax my friend..have a toke. Tis the season

[Dia bando]

The night on the white charger is riding out once more the policing of people saying anything which a few think is not PC WE ARE TURNING INTO A BUNCH of fucking passive assholes I was bullied called a name for fuck sake people grow up.