Hatton fight finally confirmed

[Kel]

Judge him from his other fights then.

[p4pking]

Judge him from his other fights then.

Ok... Mike Arnatouis outboxed his ass all night and didn't even have to box off the back foot constantly like Ben Rabah... Those are the only two guys he's fought that mean shat and they both easily defeated him. He's not worthy of this fight or having a belt, not yet anyways, and with the way he fights I doubt ever.

[Kel]

Judge him from his other fights then.

Ok... Mike Arnatouis outboxed his a** all night and didn't even have to box off the back foot constantly like Ben Rabah... Those are the only two guys he's fought that mean shat and they both easily defeated him. He's not worthy of this fight or having a belt, not yet anyways, and with the way he fights I doubt ever.

Oh well, I just saw him as an up and coming undefeated mean looking bastard. CC for bringing that to my attention I cant find any of his fights.

[7777]

CC. Agree completely. Hatton is good, but he's not that good. He's top 20 p4p, not top 10.

Of course he is top ten - whatever way you spin it and regardless of his performances, he has still WON 3 world titles on the bounce, 2 weight World Champion, a 4th World title against Urango and Castillo next.

P4P top ten in my eyes even with his one fight in 2006

Tzsyu (IBF Light Welterweight)
Maussa (WBA Light Welterweight)
Collazo (WBA Welterweight)
Urango (IBF Light Welterweight)

[El Gamo]

Someone fill me in on Urango?? What kind of style,good points,weaknesses? I've never seen him in action. It does sound like it'll be an exciting fight,1 I'd want to see,they are just going to be going to war aren't they? Anyone giving Urango a chance,may be he can hurt Hatton?

[7777]

Someone fill me in on Urango?? What kind of style,good points,weaknesses? I've never seen him in action. It does sound like it'll be an exciting fight,1 I'd want to see,they are just going to be going to war aren't they? Anyone giving Urango a chance,may be he can hurt Hatton?

Unbeaten in 18 although he was apparently lucky to get the nod against Rabah

Don't think many know too much about him to be honest

http://www.saddoboxing.com/3014-boxi...-urango-2.html

[RHHatton]

Hatton being worked hard by a big southpaw with a good chin and still winning......doesn't affect how good Floyd Mayweather Jr is!

and

Floyd running around Baldomir all night doesn't affect how good Hatton is.

That's obviously true, but I really don't think anyone's said otherwise. The point albsur was making was about hypocrisy. The problem I have with this sort of thing is the notion that there's some equivalence between (a) Hatton getting outpointed on a lot of people's cards and then moving down in weight to fight Urango and (b) Floyd winning every single round to take the WW championship and then moving up in weight to fight De la Hoya. As if these two things are both equally bad and subject to the same criticism. And when the same person who defends Hatton for (a) is so quick to criticize Mayweather for (b), it just smells funny.

I understand that people didn't find Floyd's performance "entertaining," but the the fact is that he pitched a shut out in a lineal championship fight. How that could possibly reflect poorly on his quality as a boxer (not as an entertainer) is still a little beyond me.

I don't think anyone's ever said that Floyd's domination of Baldomir "affects how good Hatton is" one way or another--that wouldn't make any sense.

The only people who had Collazo winning that fight are the hatton hatters.

The facts remain than not one single judge or the people from HBO who broadcast the fight had collazo winning.

It was a UD and hatton won it. Get over it!

[Saddo]

never liked the fact that a Mayweather fan will take a jib as Hatton when his fighter puts up a bad showing

and visa versa when a Hatton fan takes a jibe at Mayweather to make his point about hatton.

never under stood that crap if im honest

HELL YEAH!

You cannot take another figther's short comings and make them your strengths!

PBF ran all night vs Baldomir and Hatton had trouble with Collazo but how does that add up as good or bad for either fighter in the long run

It might affect things if they fought each other and used those in training.....but it looks to me like that's not going to happen.

Hatton being worked hard by a big southpaw with a good chin and still winning......doesn't affect how good Floyd Mayweather Jr is!

and

Floyd running around Baldomir all night doesn't affect how good Hatton is.

CC Saddo

back at you lyle you explained that far better than i did

[Kev]

Hatton being worked hard by a big southpaw with a good chin and still winning......doesn't affect how good Floyd Mayweather Jr is!

and

Floyd running around Baldomir all night doesn't affect how good Hatton is.

That's obviously true, but I really don't think anyone's said otherwise. The point albsur was making was about hypocrisy. The problem I have with this sort of thing is the notion that there's some equivalence between (a) Hatton getting outpointed on a lot of people's cards and then moving down in weight to fight Urango and (b) Floyd winning every single round to take the WW championship and then moving up in weight to fight De la Hoya. As if these two things are both equally bad and subject to the same criticism. And when the same person who defends Hatton for (a) is so quick to criticize Mayweather for (b), it just smells funny.

I understand that people didn't find Floyd's performance "entertaining," but the the fact is that he pitched a shut out in a lineal championship fight. How that could possibly reflect poorly on his quality as a boxer (not as an entertainer) is still a little beyond me.

I don't think anyone's ever said that Floyd's domination of Baldomir "affects how good Hatton is" one way or another--that wouldn't make any sense.

cc back shza.

Good post buddy, I dont see how anyone can compare Ricky getting a gift against Collazo and Mayweather running rings around Baldomir as both being equally negative either.

Hatton looked very ordinary against Collazo, Floyd still looked like a master boxer against Baldimor.

Anyone who says Floyd is not entertaining is just ignorant and cannot have watched any of his other fights.

How can anyone consider Mayweather vs Coralles boring? Or Mayweather vs Gatti? He rises to the occasion and has found a way to defeat every fighter put in front of him.

I've watched his entire career and the beautiful thing about Foyd is that he adpats. In his early career he was considered a puncher with one punch knockout power, as he's moved up in weight and as now is fighting a couple divisions above his natural weight limit he's resorted to boxing ability and elusiveness to overcome the weight disadvantage.

That to me is impressive. Ricky is great at 140 but his style means he cannot move up as he has only way to fight and win, and that is bullying and pressuring a weaker opponent.

Floyd can win in multiple ways and that makes him a far superior fighter.

[Kev]

Hatton being worked hard by a big southpaw with a good chin and still winning......doesn't affect how good Floyd Mayweather Jr is!

and

Floyd running around Baldomir all night doesn't affect how good Hatton is.

That's obviously true, but I really don't think anyone's said otherwise. The point albsur was making was about hypocrisy. The problem I have with this sort of thing is the notion that there's some equivalence between (a) Hatton getting outpointed on a lot of people's cards and then moving down in weight to fight Urango and (b) Floyd winning every single round to take the WW championship and then moving up in weight to fight De la Hoya. As if these two things are both equally bad and subject to the same criticism. And when the same person who defends Hatton for (a) is so quick to criticize Mayweather for (b), it just smells funny.

I understand that people didn't find Floyd's performance "entertaining," but the the fact is that he pitched a shut out in a lineal championship fight. How that could possibly reflect poorly on his quality as a boxer (not as an entertainer) is still a little beyond me.

I don't think anyone's ever said that Floyd's domination of Baldomir "affects how good Hatton is" one way or another--that wouldn't make any sense.

Hatton is willing to risk losing in order to win , that style simply makes for excellent viewing.

I got to disagree with you here. Floyd takes risks, he's moved up 5 divisions to get a better challenge.

Ricky has fought in 1 division, took one fight in the division up didn't like it and moved back down.

Ricky's fighting syle is fun to watch to though and I'm looking forward to his fight with Urango.

[shza]

CC. Agree completely. Hatton is good, but he's not that good. He's top 20 p4p, not top 10.

Of course he is top ten - whatever way you spin it and regardless of his performances, he has still WON 3 world titles on the bounce, 2 weight World Champion, a 4th World title against Urango and Castillo next.

P4P top ten in my eyes even with his one fight in 2006

Tzsyu (IBF Light Welterweight)
Maussa (WBA Light Welterweight)
Collazo (WBA Welterweight)
Urango (IBF Light Welterweight)

Why would beating Maussa and getting a gift against Collazo, neither of whom were themselves top 20 p4p fighters make you a top 10 p4p fighter? It doesn't make sense. All you can really argue is that he belongs there becauase he beat KT. I need to see more before I'm willing to give him that much credit--KT was old, had been extremely inactive going into the fight, had an injured shoulder going into the fight that required surgery immediately after, and the fight was still very close. I didn't watch that fight and say, "oh, Ricky's actually better than KT--he should take KT's p4p spot (roughly 6th at the time, if you wanted to be generous)"; i watched it and said, "wow, KT's really looking past his prime, he's definitely not a top 10 p4p fighter anymore."

I'll say it again, Hatton is a good fighter--top 20. He will prove himself to me as top 10 if he can beat Castillo. And just so you can see how I don't include Hatton in my top 10, here are 10 fighters who I think are better:

1. PBF
2. Winky
3. Pacquiao
4. Taylor
5. Hopkins (not convinced he's staying retired)
6. MAB
7. R Marquez
8. Castillo
9. Mosely
10. Calzaghe

I'd also rate Casamayor above Hatton. And JMM. So maybe Hatton's 13 for me. Even 12 if Hopkins is really out for good. I'd have to think if there's anyone else.

[7777]

[quote=shza ]

Gave me a laugh anyway

Nice one

[shza]

If you really think Hatton is better than any of those people, explain why. So far you've just baldly asserted that anyone who doesn't think Hatton is top 10 must be crazy, without backing it up with any facts and/or argument (other than that he beat Carlos Maussa). I gave you a list of at least 11 active boxers that are better than Hatton. You're definitely not persuading me of anything.

[7777]

If you really think Hatton is better than any of those people, explain why. So far you've just baldly asserted that anyone who doesn't think Hatton is top 10 must be crazy, without backing it up with any facts and/or argument (other than that he beat Carlos Maussa). I gave you a list of at least 11 active boxers that are better than Hatton. You're definitely not persuading me of anything.

Dude, I'm wasting my time. You're obviously a hater.

You've got people in that list with defeats on their record recently.

Read my points again, this will be Hattons 4th world title fight between two weights on the bounce. Who else besides Floyd has done that?

You made excuses for Tzsyu who had just destroyed Mitchell in 3, F***, even Kostya said Ricky deserved the win, he made him quit on his stool FFS

You say he got a gift against Collazo - A UD in the champions backyard with 3 THREE American judges. A close fight, but a win is a win is a win. 7 weeks prep to step up a weight and fight a bonafide Welterweight world champion who rocked him for ten seconds in the 12th and he got a gift!!!

Its all about opinions my friend but you have made a list up of everyone EXCEPT the man at 140lb. Says it all for me

[jbirdy]

so if the castillo fight is an almost certain for june (ish) has anyone thought what might happen if hatton loses against urango? i think hatton will be a man on a mission cos he has to impress after the performance against colazo not bein prime hatton. so i've got all the faith in hatton, but i've never seen urango fight and no one seems to have any links to him, but he is soposed to be a tough little SOB. i just havent heard anyone consider that hatton might lose and where would that put his plans?