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    Default Why does HBO hate on Margarito

    In his fight against Cotto they gave him no credit, even as he was whipping his ass...nothing. Now during the Williams fight they only bring him up to give more credit to Williams. What do they have against him?

    I'm curious if anything will be mentioned about his up coming fight during the last two fights of the year, and how they are gonna diss him again.

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    Default Re: Why does HBO hate on Margarito

    Emanuel Steward was giving him plenty of credit, but honestly he was getting the shit boxed out of him in the first half of that fight, what was there to give him credit for? Walking through flush shots? As it went on they were giving him more credit. Also Paul Williams easily outboxed him, Margarito IMO got more credit than he deserved, and people are calling a fight where Williams won most of the rounds easily a close fihgt because Magarito came on strong at the end..., but far too late.

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    Default Re: Why does HBO hate on Margarito

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Emanuel Steward was giving him plenty of credit, but honestly he was getting the shit boxed out of him in the first half of that fight, what was there to give him credit for? Walking through flush shots? As it went on they were giving him more credit. Also Paul Williams easily outboxed him, Margarito IMO got more credit than he deserved, and people are calling a fight where Williams won most of the rounds easily a close fihgt because Magarito came on strong at the end..., but far too late.
    In the Cotto fight he was getting outboxed but as the tide was turning you dont think he deserved credit for that? He had a plan no matter how ugly it was or how people dont accept it he knew he could take the punch and finsih him later, that was a well executed plan he deserves credit for that. I just dont know why they hate on him.
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    Default Re: Why does HBO hate on Margarito

    Quote Originally Posted by OnixAA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Emanuel Steward was giving him plenty of credit, but honestly he was getting the shit boxed out of him in the first half of that fight, what was there to give him credit for? Walking through flush shots? As it went on they were giving him more credit. Also Paul Williams easily outboxed him, Margarito IMO got more credit than he deserved, and people are calling a fight where Williams won most of the rounds easily a close fihgt because Magarito came on strong at the end..., but far too late.
    In the Cotto fight he was getting outboxed but as the tide was turning you dont think he deserved credit for that? He had a plan no matter how ugly it was or how people dont accept it he knew he could take the punch and finsih him later, that was a well executed plan he deserves credit for that. I just dont know why they hate on him.
    they are not exactly hating the guy. they just tend to talk more about cotto's skills, ability and flaw (in short excuses). Margarito already got credit from us fans(which is more meaningful) beating cintron and cotto in succession.. look where he is now on the list of every so called P4P list. Never mind the HBO commentators comments they are just there to talk and get pay.. that will never change the accomplishment of Margo.. they will look more stupid thats for sure by not giving him credit.

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    Default Re: Why does HBO hate on Margarito

    i guess because technically he is not that great, getting heavily outboxed by Williams and Cotto for most of their fight. His heart and durability are what makes him so dangerous, but HBO tend to appreciate skilled fighters more.

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    Default Re: Why does HBO hate on Margarito

    I don't think they were really hating on him. In the Cotto fight he was getting outclassed for the first half of the fight, so their commentary at that point was inline with what was happening in the fight. And, if you will recall, Steward was saying even then that he thought the pressure was going to start getting to Cotto. They gave him credit when he won. And the comments after the Williams fight didn't seem like much hating either. Williams had just fought on their show and was impressive, so of course they are going to hype him. They rightly pointed out that Margarito took a fight with Shane for half the money he could have had to fight Williams, and were using that as an example of how nobody wants to fight Williams and how he will have to create demand with the public to force the big names to fight him. I don't see that as hating.

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    Default Re: Why does HBO hate on Margarito

    Quote Originally Posted by antimoron View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OnixAA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Emanuel Steward was giving him plenty of credit, but honestly he was getting the shit boxed out of him in the first half of that fight, what was there to give him credit for? Walking through flush shots? As it went on they were giving him more credit. Also Paul Williams easily outboxed him, Margarito IMO got more credit than he deserved, and people are calling a fight where Williams won most of the rounds easily a close fihgt because Magarito came on strong at the end..., but far too late.
    In the Cotto fight he was getting outboxed but as the tide was turning you dont think he deserved credit for that? He had a plan no matter how ugly it was or how people dont accept it he knew he could take the punch and finsih him later, that was a well executed plan he deserves credit for that. I just dont know why they hate on him.
    they are not exactly hating the guy. they just tend to talk more about cotto's skills, ability and flaw (in short excuses). Margarito already got credit from us fans(which is more meaningful) beating cintron and cotto in succession.. look where he is now on the list of every so called P4P list. Never mind the HBO commentators comments they are just there to talk and get pay.. that will never change the accomplishment of Margo.. they will look more stupid thats for sure by not giving him credit.

    Lampley & co are just cheerleaders for HBO fighters. Tony Margarito isnt an HBO fighter its that simple
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    Default Re: Why does HBO hate on Margarito

    Quote Originally Posted by OnixAA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Emanuel Steward was giving him plenty of credit, but honestly he was getting the shit boxed out of him in the first half of that fight, what was there to give him credit for? Walking through flush shots? As it went on they were giving him more credit. Also Paul Williams easily outboxed him, Margarito IMO got more credit than he deserved, and people are calling a fight where Williams won most of the rounds easily a close fihgt because Magarito came on strong at the end..., but far too late.
    In the Cotto fight he was getting outboxed but as the tide was turning you dont think he deserved credit for that? He had a plan no matter how ugly it was or how people dont accept it he knew he could take the punch and finsih him later, that was a well executed plan he deserves credit for that. I just dont know why they hate on him.
    Both Emanuel Steward, and Kellerman consistently said that Margarito was going to turn it up as the fight went on, and that Cotto really had to maintain his pace in order to win, but that it would be very difficult because of the pressure that Margarito was putting on him.

    Once again its very hard to give credit to a guy who is being hit at the other's will. Very often fights have looked like they might get close or turn the other direction like Cotto-Margarito did, but more often than not it seems they don't.

    He's really only beaten Cotto who has proven themselves at the top level. I think he does beat several other guys at the top, but there are a few guys including Paul Williams that beat him more often than not.

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    Default Re: Why does HBO hate on Margarito

    It's like Setanta over here, they do it with football, if any of the big four (Liverpool, Chelsea, Man United or Arsenal) teams draw or lose they make it out to be a poor performance by them without giving credit to 'lesser mid/lower-table team'

    Cotto looked very good for the first half of that fight and if the HBO team were (like me) saying "this is an amazing performance, Cotto is in a different league" and then Margo comes out and punishes Cotto like that you might feel like a bit of a nugget for saying what you did. Specially if your considered an 'expert'

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    Default Re: Why does HBO hate on Margarito

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Emanuel Steward was giving him plenty of credit, but honestly he was getting the shit boxed out of him in the first half of that fight, what was there to give him credit for? Walking through flush shots? As it went on they were giving him more credit. Also Paul Williams easily outboxed him, Margarito IMO got more credit than he deserved, and people are calling a fight where Williams won most of the rounds easily a close fihgt because Magarito came on strong at the end..., but far too late.
    Yeah Steward was giving him credit right through the fight from probably the second round.. He knew that he was going to keep coming on strong and had a good chance of beating Cotto.. But that's just Emanuel's intelligence when it comes to the ring.... There are some fighters that they like to lick the nuts of, win/lose or draw.. Then there are fighters that they don't really bother to mention much.. It's fighters like Winky and stuff that don't seem to get the credit they deserve in contrast to some other fighters, but I havn't really seen to much hating on Margarito... They'll have to pay him his dues if he wins a few more big fights..
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    Default Re: Why does HBO hate on Margarito

    This all seems best placed in the immediate post fight, a bit dated??HBO is at its best....cough..... when it tows the company line and hype fair contract, But...fans all know what they saw vs. Cotto.And is was not two seperate fights with Cotto opting to lose or a fluke...Tony merits boo-koo respect and the doubters line up

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