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[WelshDevilRob]

Yeah because the fights against the tomatoe cans he fought priro actually count for something...

Bonin has a record so padded he could be a spokeman for StayFree

Same goes for Delany and Semishker has been KO'd in over 75% of his 20+ losses...are we to take that seriously...So there goes your big "SONNY" comeback....I forgot more on boxing then you ever knew...Wait make that ANY arrogant fighter.....Except an occassional high buy rate that is based more on who they fight rather then them themselves...

Jones never had one...nor did Hopkins......


Name the Arrogant American fighter with a high PPV buy.....PBF...NO!!!.....Oh wait thats right there is none.....


I am sorry when have we sent you guys taunts and hurts...

100 years worth....OMG you act like your people have been repressed by the communistic holds of boxing dictatorships....

You make yourself out to sound like a clown..

So what I thought Mormeck would beat him...So did a shit load of others....What did you do spend countless hours of going through my post?.....

Too much time on your hands

Earlier you criticized my style of posting then you imitate it - so whose the joker?

I said PPV and views - you chose to not recognize both. Did I say PBF was the highest? Nope but millions of Americans have watched his fights - Am I right? I'm not wrong.

Ever heard of Muhammad Ali? (he was formerly known as Cassius Clay) Now he was regarded as arrogant and millions watched his fights all around the World so my point stands and you have once again been schooled.

The fact you just checked Boxrec to see who Haye fought rather than actually having seen the fights is why you need to Study Up. I watched the man fight in the amateurs so have followed his career closely. Don't aimlessly bash fighters with your lack of insight and knowledge when you haven't studied Up.

The 100 years is too put into perspective your whining about a few Brits bigging up a Uk Heavy but that obviously went over your head.

As for you having forgotten more..... - please don't embarrass yourself with wack lines like that.

Time on my hands? nah just a better memory than you it would seem.

No went to boxrec to check exactly how many times they were KO'd before facing Haye....

The whole 100 years thing is pitiful plain and simple......

As for following Haye since the Amateurs well I am glad for you because unless it is an American Amateur I can care less....BTW we have been kicking your ass in that for a 100 years as well

As for you being able to root for a HW after all the...what was it you said...Hurt?........Your HW has yet to win ANYTHING....Like counting your Lotto winnings without even playing...

PBF was an example no one ever said you mentioned him...

As for Ali.....(His formerly being known as thing was the most stupid thing you have posted so far).....It was also a time of racial tension in this country...It had to do with his dealings with the Nation of Islam etc that made him so disliked...His arrogance before winning the title from Liston was really thought little of and people just expected him to be banished after facing Liston....Oh Look 2 other AMERICAN heavyweights that caused you part of your 100 years of hurt....

Had nothing to do with pumping up your HW it was how you posted it....Making it almost as if it were some sort of resentment against the Americans....Now you are still getting pissed off because everything I said was true.....

So you need to resort to attempting to make comments on me saying "I forgot more about boxing then you ever knew" shows exactly how much of a piss fit you are throwing because you know I am right...

In short...

How about David Haye beating a HW of worth regardless where they are from before you start jumping online claiming your right to wash his jock after the Klitschko fight....

I shall reply after a hard days work to this nonsense - I knew you weren't a mod as you cast the 1st personal diss and then keep it going and act upset cos someone dared to reply.
As for me having a fit again another throwaway laughable line

Anyway you talk about Ali very vaguely and mention just one period or rather fight. You have obviously not seen his interviews with Parkinson during the 70's - if you had you would have seen the Great man at his most arrogant. He was arrogant at times throughout his career not just before the Liston fight and he got the viewing figures even in times of racial tension.
I am a huge Ali fan - it is hard not to be but I am not going to pretend he was a saint but he did get viewing figures and that was my point.

Hurt - I never said I was hurt did I? Am I 100 years old - No.
Thanks for admitting you were unfamiliar with Hayes opposition and needed to check Boxrec - Well done.

I am rooting for the fighter, the man, the personality and the ability of David Haye - I don't tend to support fighters on Nationality. (Afterall he is not Welsh but I support him)
Like I supported Hearns back in the day and numerous American fighters including Heavyweights like Derrick Jefferson - not just cos a fighter is good but the way they fight.

Haye is only 28 if he gets beat or Ko'd then I won't walk away or stop supporting just like I carried on supporting Big Len after his defeat to Oliver McCall.

[DaxxKahn]

Earlier you criticized my style of posting then you imitate it - so whose the joker?

I said PPV and views - you chose to not recognize both. Did I say PBF was the highest? Nope but millions of Americans have watched his fights - Am I right? I'm not wrong.

Ever heard of Muhammad Ali? (he was formerly known as Cassius Clay) Now he was regarded as arrogant and millions watched his fights all around the World so my point stands and you have once again been schooled.

The fact you just checked Boxrec to see who Haye fought rather than actually having seen the fights is why you need to Study Up. I watched the man fight in the amateurs so have followed his career closely. Don't aimlessly bash fighters with your lack of insight and knowledge when you haven't studied Up.

The 100 years is too put into perspective your whining about a few Brits bigging up a Uk Heavy but that obviously went over your head.

As for you having forgotten more..... - please don't embarrass yourself with wack lines like that.

Time on my hands? nah just a better memory than you it would seem.

No went to boxrec to check exactly how many times they were KO'd before facing Haye....

The whole 100 years thing is pitiful plain and simple......

As for following Haye since the Amateurs well I am glad for you because unless it is an American Amateur I can care less....BTW we have been kicking your ass in that for a 100 years as well

As for you being able to root for a HW after all the...what was it you said...Hurt?........Your HW has yet to win ANYTHING....Like counting your Lotto winnings without even playing...

PBF was an example no one ever said you mentioned him...

As for Ali.....(His formerly being known as thing was the most stupid thing you have posted so far).....It was also a time of racial tension in this country...It had to do with his dealings with the Nation of Islam etc that made him so disliked...His arrogance before winning the title from Liston was really thought little of and people just expected him to be banished after facing Liston....Oh Look 2 other AMERICAN heavyweights that caused you part of your 100 years of hurt....

Had nothing to do with pumping up your HW it was how you posted it....Making it almost as if it were some sort of resentment against the Americans....Now you are still getting pissed off because everything I said was true.....

So you need to resort to attempting to make comments on me saying "I forgot more about boxing then you ever knew" shows exactly how much of a piss fit you are throwing because you know I am right...

In short...

How about David Haye beating a HW of worth regardless where they are from before you start jumping online claiming your right to wash his jock after the Klitschko fight....

I shall reply after a hard days work to this nonsense - I knew you weren't a mod as you cast the 1st personal diss and then keep it going and act upset cos someone dared to reply.
As for me having a fit again another throwaway laughable line

Anyway you talk about Ali very vaguely and mention just one period or rather fight. You have obviously not seen his interviews with Parkinson during the 70's - if you had you would have seen the Great man at his most arrogant. He was arrogant at times throughout his career not just before the Liston fight and he got the viewing figures even in times of racial tension.
I am a huge Ali fan - it is hard not to be but I am not going to pretend he was a saint but he did get viewing figures and that was my point.

Hurt - I never said I was hurt did I? Am I 100 years old - No.
Thanks for admitting you were unfamiliar with Hayes opposition and needed to check Boxrec - Well done.

I am rooting for the fighter, the man, the personality and the ability of David Haye - I don't tend to support fighters on Nationality. (Afterall he is not Welsh but I support him)
Like I supported Hearns back in the day and numerous American fighters including Heavyweights like Derrick Jefferson - not just cos a fighter is good but the way they fight.

Haye is only 28 if he gets beat or Ko'd then I won't walk away or stop supporting just like I carried on supporting Big Len after his defeat to Oliver McCall.

Oh my mistake there must be another WelshDevilRob who post here and had the words...."a Brit like me can celebrate and return the almost 100 years of taunts and hurts"....In a post of theirs on page 2 of this thread....So I guess it wasn't you who said anything about being hurt.....OR 100 years....

When did I say anything about being a MOD on these boards?....The only board I am a MOD on is the news board....If you are referring to the post concerning posting links to articles written by people to another web site they work for....Well that has to do with a business side of the site....The side that allows the money to be made that allows you to have a Saddo Boxing to post on......The same site those guys with the pop up's you get when logging on and the banner ads on every page that THEY PAY FOR!!!!!.....To Generate business and traffic for their site....

The Same Banner ads that SADDO BOXING PAYS FOR ON OTHER SITES TO GENERATE TRAFFIC HERE!!!!.....In fact the same banner ads I do article exchanges for by invite from boxing promoters that help generate traffic to this site that allows people to want to advertise here to pay for the yearly URL that allows you to post here......So when you start working for Saddo and you start busting your ass....and you start doing something around here to make sure things keep up an running besides just posting bullshit denying things that you said just one page before then you can butt into that business and let people generate spam to get traffic to their sites without paying a dime off our hard work and reputation...

As for anything else regarding me and these boards I am nothing more then a poster.,..That is why there are MODS...to handle all the nonsense....I myself am not beyond any of it and have to follow the rules like anyone else....But when it comes to people advertising spam to their sites on multiple occassions then it becomes Site Business....So keep on telling them to pay me no mind and to keep on posting links to their sites to generate free traffic and you can explain to them in an email that you have a big mouth and thought it was OK to post spam links to their site so they can generate traffic and had no idea it would get them banned...While you sit on the other side of the computer realizing sometimes you should shut up about business that has nothing to do with you

Yeah I have seen Ali during his best times...How many live Ali fights have you been to?....I have been to 4.....How many times have you met him?....I have met him half a dozen......How many times a week do you talk with his ex trainer?....I talk with Angelo Dundee at least 3 times a week.....So try to tell me a bit more about Ali.....What year was it Ali was diagnosed with Parkensons?.....Come back with that answer...And if it was in the 70's no one would have known about it so how the hell do you know about him doing interviews in the 70's while having it?......

No one claimed he was a Saint...In fact he was at times cruel to his opponents....There were also reasons behind it so again stop talking out of your ass.....

And good for you your a Derrick Jefferson fan...Who the hell cares...I can bet Money Derrick can give 2 shits less

[Violent Demise]

haha... David Haye has the same mentality as Fraudley Harrison? Fraudley is in the same league talent wise?

You're a funny fucker VD.

You don't think Harrison had talent? Damn you really don't know shitt about Boxing do you? Lack of talent was never Harrison's problem.

[DaxxKahn]

haha... David Haye has the same mentality as Fraudley Harrison? Fraudley is in the same league talent wise?

You're a funny fucker VD.

You don't think Harrison had talent? Damn you really don't know shitt about Boxing do you? Lack of talent was never Harrison's problem.

Audley has all the talent in the world....Sadly he does not have the fortitude needed to succeeed....I remember the first time I had seen him as a pro...(Saw him as an amateur several times and in Sydney I followed him).....Think it was against Julius Long...I was impressed with how easily he dealt with the size...Then breaking Calloways jaw causing him to quit...

I thought he would be world champion despite his age long ago....

[Violent Demise]

haha... David Haye has the same mentality as Fraudley Harrison? Fraudley is in the same league talent wise?

You're a funny fucker VD.

You don't think Harrison had talent? Damn you really don't know shitt about Boxing do you? Lack of talent was never Harrison's problem.

Audley has all the talent in the world....Sadly he does not have the fortitude needed to succeeed....I remember the first time I had seen him as a pro...(Saw him as an amateur several times and in Sydney I followed him).....Think it was against Julius Long...I was impressed with how easily he dealt with the size...Then breaking Calloways jaw causing him to quit...

I thought he would be world champion despite his age long ago....

But you know what's up Daxx. I rarely quote your comments any more. Cuz I usually agree with them. You know Boxing. You know Harrison is crap. A failure. But you also know his failure wasn't due to lack of talent. The dumb fukk I quote earlier on doesn't know that. He just goes along with the public perception that Harrison is crap (which he is) but has no idea why.

[DaxxKahn]

You don't think Harrison had talent? Damn you really don't know shitt about Boxing do you? Lack of talent was never Harrison's problem.

Audley has all the talent in the world....Sadly he does not have the fortitude needed to succeeed....I remember the first time I had seen him as a pro...(Saw him as an amateur several times and in Sydney I followed him).....Think it was against Julius Long...I was impressed with how easily he dealt with the size...Then breaking Calloways jaw causing him to quit...

I thought he would be world champion despite his age long ago....

But you know what's up Daxx. I rarely quote your comments any more. Cuz I usually agree with them. You know Boxing. You know Harrison is crap. A failure. But you also know his failure wasn't due to lack of talent. The dumb fukk I quote earlier on doesn't know that. He just goes along with the public perception that Harrison is crap (which he is) but has no idea why.

Thats why I said he has Talent...just not the rest that is needed to go along with being successful.....Hell the guy has size, good power and can box....His chin is better then people give credit for....He just seems to screw up everytime it counts.......Yeah he is crap but like you said not because of talent....

Hell Zab Judah is crap but he is also one of the most talented fighters of this era

[Fenster]

lol

Two Americans singing the praises of Audley in a thread designed to slate Haye

[AdamGB]

haha... David Haye has the same mentality as Fraudley Harrison? Fraudley is in the same league talent wise?

You're a funny fucker VD.

You don't think Harrison had talent? Damn you really don't know shitt about Boxing do you? Lack of talent was never Harrison's problem.

When did I say that he had no talent? learn to read you fucking retard.

A common view held by arm chair fans is that Fraudley has all of the talent to be champ, but just isn't using it. It's not surprise to see you shooting from a similar angle.

While he would certainatly be a lot better if he fought with more heart, fortitude and assertion (all of which are Talents that haye has and harrison lacks) he has serious flaws in his game.

Fair enough he has the physique and athletism to be a great heavyweight but that isn't the same as possesing the boxing talent as a pro that Haye has.

The real issue here is not why Audley isn't a sucsess but that you think David Haye doesn't have more talent than Audley does.

Do you honestly think that the only reason Audley circles off the back foot pawing his jab out to keep smaller/older/weaker fighters away from him is because he is scared of them? please

I think what you are doing is confusing physical attributes with boxing skill and talent.

I hate to interupt your little tangent but can you please tell me were I said harrison didn't have any talent/potential?

The fact is though that Haye can fight assertivly, he can trade, he can be in the pocket, he will let his opponents come to him so he can do his work. Audley can't so doesn't... even against polish binmen and old journey men

haye was a very successful amateur and no doubt Audley was too, the difference is that Audley harrison reached his level, the amount of talent he has has taken him as far as he's going to go in th pro ranks, he fights so negativly to try and make up for this.

[AdamGB]

lol

Two Americans singing the praises of Audley in a thread designed to slate Haye

What they have to realise is that the talent of boxing is mostly mental... look at James Toney for god's sake.

There are plenty of great athletes who have the physique for boxing but not the head for it.

audley may have the athletism to make it right to the top but he doesn't have the head (TALENT!) to do so.

it's like putting a Nascar driver in an F1 car

[piye]

This is stupid the OP clearly is allowing his hatred to blind him. Haye has already become the man at Cruiser within 21 fights proving himself a credible fighter.

To be honest you just come across as being slow for insulting the Champion from Cruiser and dismissing him despite the way he has already proven he is a talented fighter.

[Mr140]

To be fair the cruiser weight divsion is weak one weaker then heavyweights The only great cruiser weight i can think of is Evander Holyfeild and there is a reason that Evander was succesful and Haye wont be and for this reason and i know you heard it before Evander Holyfeild had a chin and could take punchs and keep coming and was one of the most mentally tough fighters i have ever seen fight in the ring i mean the only times he go down is because the man had a heart condition.

[AdamGB]

He's trying to drag haye down to harrison's level of talent and feels justified in doing so because they were both very promosing and talented amatuer boxers... the fact that Harrison hasn't really shown any promise since a few fights into his pro career whilst Haye has continued to improve and develop, seek the best fights and work his way to the top of his division within 21 fights is irrelevant to him.

All harrison managed in 21 fights was to look ordinary against Journey men, old washed up names and un heard of fighters before getting beaten by Guinn and possibly the worst looking Danny Williams I have seen.

You just have to look at the Bonin fight... I know it's not exactly black and white when using a shared opponent as a measuring stick but Haye basically demolished Bonin within one round... I remember watching Harrison fight Bonin, he was very lucky to get the 9th round stoppage. Bonin gave him plenty to think about... he was releuctant to even exchange with him at all.

[AdamGB]

To be fair the cruiser weight divsion is weak one weaker then heavyweights The only great cruiser weight i can think of is Evander Holyfeild and there is a reason that Evander was succesful and Haye wont be and for this reason and i know you heard it before Evander Holyfeild had a chin and could take punchs and keep coming and was one of the most mentally tough fighters i have ever seen fight in the ring i mean the only times he go down is because the man had a heart condition.

Holyfield was up against the likes of Bowe, Tyson and Lewis all great heavyweights in their own right. Other than the Klitschos who in the Heavyweight division is in the same league?

haye and holyfield are different fighters in almost all regards so it's pointless comparing two different eras and two different fighters.

[Mr140]

Well let me put it this was even though the heavies are weaker does not change the fact that Haye is a heavy weight with a weak chin and does not have the size of Waldamir to make up for it he not a great boxer. I just pointed out the only reason Evander Holyfeil did it was becasue he could take shots and had a one hell of a chin a good thing to have.

[AdamGB]

Hopefully haye will have the speed and mobility to make up for it... if he walks straight into anybody then I agree... it's going to be a short night for him