Looks like Hatton- Paquiao is off

[fan johnny]

I think Manny is being foolish here, because there is no way he will get more than 50-50 against Mayweather whose people will just not let that happen, as well as the fact it would not generate the money the UK PPV's do for Hatton. 52-48 is a pretty good deal, it really is starting to look like Pacquiao is avoidin Hatton.

In terms of future opponents, for Pacquiao, there is Mayweather, but I doubt he will get more than 50-50 against him even if it did post bigger numbers in the US, whilst Marquez III is another option and one where he could get a bigger piece of the pie, but I can't see this being as lucrative as Hatton.

Hatton can fight any 'name' and he will do good numbers. I think one fight he could go for is Cotto at a catchweight of 144 or something, if Cotto doesn't go straight to Margarito after demolishing Jennings. This could also be fairly big money wise, and would probably do close to 1,000,000 buys in the UK. My cousin was working at SkySports for the Malignaggi fight, and their internal estimate on the night of PPV buys in the UK was somewhere between 500,000 & 600,000, so think about the money that could be made against a more renowned name like Cotto. Plus if Hatton did it in a stadium he can make a bundle off ticket sales.

Still hope that Manny sees sense and makes the fight.

May I beg to differ. I think it's a good move on Team Pacquiao's part because they he is in the drivers seat. Why should he settle? It may be a a bit of a gamble but lets see once Hatton meets another fighter with a good draw $1 million to $5 Million? but pales in comparison and Pacquiao meets another fighter but makes another $10 million. Hatton's team is messing out on at least $4M $6M if not $10M by not bowing to Pacquiao's demand.

[fan johnny]

To me, Pac-Margarito is a mismatch. Maragrito is a big ass welterweight. Pac wont be able to make him flinch also. His pucnhes will have no effect. Margarito is bigger and stronger. How will Pac cope with that pressure from a guy his size ? Margarito crushes Pac.

You gonna whine at anything else ?

I agree, You're right about Margrito being a big welterweight and beating Pac, but it's not going to be one sided fight. Cotto already proved a more technical fighter can out box Margarito. But I'll tell you that if the fight happens, it will be at a catch weight of 145 and not at 147 making it harder for Margrito to make weight. My guess is Roach will try to keep the date tight as well. No whining here, I wanna see this fight happen as much as the Hatton fight and more than Mayweather. If Pacquiao can pull off a win, Both Hatton's and Mayweather's barganing power tanks.

[Kirkland Laing]

If Manny doesn't sign the contract by the deadline he's clearly bottling fighting Hatton. How about that.

[Kirkland Laing]

I think Manny is being foolish here, because there is no way he will get more than 50-50 against Mayweather whose people will just not let that happen, as well as the fact it would not generate the money the UK PPV's do for Hatton. 52-48 is a pretty good deal, it really is starting to look like Pacquiao is avoidin Hatton.

In terms of future opponents, for Pacquiao, there is Mayweather, but I doubt he will get more than 50-50 against him even if it did post bigger numbers in the US, whilst Marquez III is another option and one where he could get a bigger piece of the pie, but I can't see this being as lucrative as Hatton.

Hatton can fight any 'name' and he will do good numbers. I think one fight he could go for is Cotto at a catchweight of 144 or something, if Cotto doesn't go straight to Margarito after demolishing Jennings. This could also be fairly big money wise, and would probably do close to 1,000,000 buys in the UK. My cousin was working at SkySports for the Malignaggi fight, and their internal estimate on the night of PPV buys in the UK was somewhere between 500,000 & 600,000, so think about the money that could be made against a more renowned name like Cotto. Plus if Hatton did it in a stadium he can make a bundle off ticket sales.

Still hope that Manny sees sense and makes the fight.

May I beg to differ. I think it's a good move on Team Pacquiao's part because they he is in the drivers seat. Why should he settle? It may be a a bit of a gamble but lets see once Hatton meets another fighter with a good draw $1 million to $5 Million? but pales in comparison and Pacquiao meets another fighter but makes another $10 million. Hatton's team is messing out on at least $4M $6M if not $10M by not bowing to Pacquiao's demand.

You can say the same about Manny. What PPV money can Manny bring to a fight that isn't featuring an American or a Latino fighter. Hatton probably brings more revenue to the promotion than Manny does. At the least it's fairly even what they bring to it so when you consider the fact that these two particular guys fighting each other will generate more revenue than almost any other match they can make it's a no-brainer for both guys to accept. If Manny prices himself out of the fight it's because he's scared to fight Hatton.

[Moono]

It would be so funny if who ever fights Pacquiao next ko's him.If the fight with Hatton doesnt happen then he goes and fights someone for $3million when he would of got $11million for Hatton just doesnt make sence it looks like he is avoiding Ricky.

I wonder how the relationship is with Freddie Roach after this boils down cause Manny wont pick up the fone to Roach.

It seems 90 percent likely pacman gets tko or knocked out in his next fight, it will be by Valero if he choose to fight him...and Valero will be the star and fight hatton.

[Rantcatrat]

Fukk Pac. He can never claim that he always tried the fight the best. What a fraud. If that fag had any sense he knew that even 52% against Hatton would generate a lot more against Margez, Valero, Guzman etc. The fans Hatton brings to his fights, no one can compare too. Guess he really is dumb.

Manny Pacquaio

You're dumb ass!

Tell me why the basic premise has being set for Pacquiao / Margarito? Pacquiao is keen on watching Margrito / Mosley fight. Don't come up with some lame dumb as answer either.

Hatton's draw numbers are down against other fighters and no way he could even hope to generate the kind of money a Pacquiao / Hatton fight can. Even a rematch with Mayweather would come up way short. A place Hatton can make good money is in the UK with live tickets and it's gotta be with one of the alaphbets cause IBO ain't gonna get him anything. The only thing you write that make sence is about Hatton fans.

Marquez ain't going up to 140 to fight Hatton because he'd get his ass knocked out and knows it. It would tank his career again. I wouldn't even watch it and I'd only look at the highlights after the fight on youtube. Most people don't even know the fighter names you have listed not only that they are all in the lightweight and superfeather weight class, not the jr welterweight and welterweight class.

What I'm saying is he can't say he decided to fight the best in this instance.

Hatton is the best? There are many talented options out there for Pacquiao. As mentioned earlier: Margarito, Cotto, Campbell, Diaz, Marquez etc.

It is a bad decision not to fight Hatton because the Hatton fight is more financially lucrative. That said, Pacquiao isn't afraid of fighting the best or really anyone for that matter.

[Julius Rain]

most of you are going to look retarded like usually talking smack about pac

[robinswe01]

Why don't they have something like a 70 -30 split with the winner taking 70%. Its seems silly that they decide the split before the fight.

Why do they do this in boxing?

[JT Rock]

I think Manny is being foolish here, because there is no way he will get more than 50-50 against Mayweather whose people will just not let that happen, as well as the fact it would not generate the money the UK PPV's do for Hatton. 52-48 is a pretty good deal, it really is starting to look like Pacquiao is avoidin Hatton.

In terms of future opponents, for Pacquiao, there is Mayweather, but I doubt he will get more than 50-50 against him even if it did post bigger numbers in the US, whilst Marquez III is another option and one where he could get a bigger piece of the pie, but I can't see this being as lucrative as Hatton.

Hatton can fight any 'name' and he will do good numbers. I think one fight he could go for is Cotto at a catchweight of 144 or something, if Cotto doesn't go straight to Margarito after demolishing Jennings. This could also be fairly big money wise, and would probably do close to 1,000,000 buys in the UK. My cousin was working at SkySports for the Malignaggi fight, and their internal estimate on the night of PPV buys in the UK was somewhere between 500,000 & 600,000, so think about the money that could be made against a more renowned name like Cotto. Plus if Hatton did it in a stadium he can make a bundle off ticket sales.

Still hope that Manny sees sense and makes the fight.

May I beg to differ. I think it's a good move on Team Pacquiao's part because they he is in the drivers seat. Why should he settle? It may be a a bit of a gamble but lets see once Hatton meets another fighter with a good draw $1 million to $5 Million? but pales in comparison and Pacquiao meets another fighter but makes another $10 million. Hatton's team is messing out on at least $4M $6M if not $10M by not bowing to Pacquiao's demand.

How is Hatton messing out... You do realize hatton has been the kingpin of 140 for almost 4 years now right?

I would also venture to say Hatton has more career earning than Pac up to this point

[rjj tszyu]

It would be so funny if who ever fights Pacquiao next ko's him.If the fight with Hatton doesnt happen then he goes and fights someone for $3million when he would of got $11million for Hatton just doesnt make sence it looks like he is avoiding Ricky.

I wonder how the relationship is with Freddie Roach after this boils down cause Manny wont pick up the fone to Roach.

It seems 90 percent likely pacman gets tko or knocked out in his next fight, it will be by Valero if he choose to fight him...and Valero will be the star and fight hatton.

Nah. Valero is a great puncher no doubt, but I don't think he has the credentials to beat Pacman. Also even if he did beat Pac I couldn't see him going upto 140 to fight Hatton. He hasn't even fought at Lightweight yet so he doesn't know if he can carry his power to other divisions and moving up 2 divisions without his main advantage would be suicide!

[JonnyFolds]

People I think can beat Pac at their weight that ARE NOT Margarito or any WW for that...

Nate Campbell
Juan Diaz
Ricky Hatton
JMM with a 3rd try.

P.S. Pac has not ducked any1. I wouldn't blame him for not fighting Ricky right now. That fight is risky as hell, and he still has 2 divisions to clear out. (LW & JWW) Don't get me wrong, I want to see this fight more than anything!

[eveciceobsept]

Nothing seems to be easier than seeing someone whom you can help but not helping.I suggest we start giving it a try. Give love to the ones that need it.God will appreciate it.

[Taeth]

I think Manny is being foolish here, because there is no way he will get more than 50-50 against Mayweather whose people will just not let that happen, as well as the fact it would not generate the money the UK PPV's do for Hatton. 52-48 is a pretty good deal, it really is starting to look like Pacquiao is avoidin Hatton.

In terms of future opponents, for Pacquiao, there is Mayweather, but I doubt he will get more than 50-50 against him even if it did post bigger numbers in the US, whilst Marquez III is another option and one where he could get a bigger piece of the pie, but I can't see this being as lucrative as Hatton.

Hatton can fight any 'name' and he will do good numbers. I think one fight he could go for is Cotto at a catchweight of 144 or something, if Cotto doesn't go straight to Margarito after demolishing Jennings. This could also be fairly big money wise, and would probably do close to 1,000,000 buys in the UK. My cousin was working at SkySports for the Malignaggi fight, and their internal estimate on the night of PPV buys in the UK was somewhere between 500,000 & 600,000, so think about the money that could be made against a more renowned name like Cotto. Plus if Hatton did it in a stadium he can make a bundle off ticket sales.

Still hope that Manny sees sense and makes the fight.

Just read an article that was on here that Hatton-Paulie only did like 200K in the UK.

I don't think Pacquiao is being foolish, he deserves more money than Hatton deserves to make, he is fighting the bigger guy, he is the one with everything to lose, Hatton has nothing to lose.

He would make a lot more money fighting Mayweather even if it was a 50/50 split, that fight would be huge in the states and probably go for nearly 2 million buys.

Also IMO Pacquiao beats either Cotto or Margarito, he is way too fast, and not just of hand but of foot, I mean Zab Judah could have beaten Cotto with he would have consistently thrown that left hand and Pacquiao does throw it more, and he sets it up better. Margarito is a lumbering giant of a man, but he has terrible footwork and Pacquiao is way quicker of foot than Cotto and way lighter on his feet, everytime Margarito comes barreling in Pacquiao will easily maintain the distance, and he can do it all night, and if Cotto looked so fast against Marg, imagine how Pacquiao will look.

[Diane]

Here's the latest news. Looks like Ricky told GBP he's done with Manny, and to get him either Oscar, Floyd, or the winner of Marquez/Diaz.


Proposed Ricky Hatton-Manny Pacquiao fight called off - ESPN

[Moono]

Here's the latest news. Looks like Ricky told GBP he's done with Manny, and to get him either Oscar, Floyd, or the winner of Marquez/Diaz.


Proposed Ricky Hatton-Manny Pacquiao fight called off - ESPN

Dan speaks the truth with this part!!!!

Arum and Schaefer quickly wrapped up negotiations and Hatton agreed to a 50-50 split of the revenue, even though he generates substantially more money in British television rights than Pacquiao could ever hope to generate in the poorer Philippines.