Is Juan Manuel Marquez Over Rated?

[Majesty]

Its hard for me to think of anyone at 135 currently that can beat him honestly.

What other Lightweights were there worth talking about besides Diaz?

The only guy he hasnt beaten is Katsidis but he doesnt have to as he beat the two people who beat him.

Well there are a few people left for him to face at 135.

There's Joan Guzman and Edwin Valero who has just moved up to 135 and is fighting for the vacant title that Nate Campbell had to vacate I saw on Boxrec.

And as prospects there's Anthony Peterson but he isnt ready yet. Maybe in a year or two.

So if Edwin Valero wins the title then him. And Joan Guzman is left for JMM.


If he beats them both no one will ever say he is overrated. They shouldnt be saying that anyway though

[brucelee]

Now, that gives me an idea. If Joan fights Marquez, who would have won?

[tokwatbaboy]

Its hard for me to think of anyone at 135 currently that can beat him honestly.

What other Lightweights were there worth talking about besides Diaz?

The only guy he hasnt beaten is Katsidis but he doesnt have to as he beat the two people who beat him.

Well there are a few people left for him to face at 135.

There's Joan Guzman and Edwin Valero who has just moved up to 135 and is fighting for the vacant title that Nate Campbell had to vacate I saw on Boxrec.

And as prospects there's Anthony Peterson but he isnt ready yet. Maybe in a year or two.

So if Edwin Valero wins the title then him. And Joan Guzman is left for JMM.


If he beats them both no one will ever say he is overrated. They shouldnt be saying that anyway though

if....he beats those two...thats ifffff...people are saying valero fought BUM fighters but can you name a great fighter that knocked his opponent in the first round in his first 17 fights??boxers start their career fighting BUM fighters...even pacquiao...marquez etc.....valero gets hit by his opponent because valero knows he can absorb their punches thas why he goes for the kill...but once he knows the caliber of his opponent he may be as cautious as he can and wait to land his power shots...thats the duty of their respective trainers...a boxer can be great if he can do what he trained for in the actual fight...in boxing, if you can do what you are saying before the fight then surely you are the winner..in short any boer who can initiate their gameplan perfectly then you win.....i can say valero is a very dangerous fighter and i dont think marquez can get up the canvass if valero lands a good one on the chin....

[CutMeMick]

Mikay if JMM is overrated then ask yourself why is he aside from Morales the only fighter who has argueably beat him twice in his prime?

You think he's overrated then why are both of the fights vs. Pac argueably wins for him. Not in the eyes of groupies but in the eyes of the boxing world especially the 2nd fight?
From writers to commentators you name it.

[:::PSL:::]

This thread is tasteless, repulsive, and disgusting. Sometimes pacfans should know that everytime they discredit JMM, they also taking away a big part of Pac's accomplishment.

[Andre]

This thread is tasteless, repulsive, and disgusting. Sometimes pacfans should know that everytime they discredit JMM, they also taking away a big part of Pac's accomplishment.

Where the hell has Pac fan gone, Pac straight left? we loved having him around too.

[:::PSL:::]

This thread is tasteless, repulsive, and disgusting. Sometimes pacfans should know that everytime they discredit JMM, they also taking away a big part of Pac's accomplishment.

Where the hell has Pac fan gone, Pac straight left? we loved having him around too.

He's busy fishin' in Japan.

[Andre]

This thread is tasteless, repulsive, and disgusting. Sometimes pacfans should know that everytime they discredit JMM, they also taking away a big part of Pac's accomplishment.

Where the hell has Pac fan gone, Pac straight left? we loved having him around too.

He's busy fishin' in Japan.

Better not be whales or dolphins!

[Andre]

Barrera wasnt prime Mikay he had had more wars than Manny at that point in time than Manny will ever be on the end of.

Manny will survive better than any of these Mexicans; he is the one punishing them.

Thats their Mexican style of fighting they dont move much on their toes they just want to bang it out.

Manny would move and catch them on the turn. Fantastic.

Juan is different for a Mexican he has other skills thats why he came closer to the Great Manny.

Thats why his skills are not over rated.

Now get over it or you will be hearing some music.

[MIKAY]

Lol thats cool. Well siad and put

[MIKAY]

Marquez does not have a career defining win over another top p4p to justify him being an alltime p4pder or current p4pder. Yes he has potential but seriously at 35 how much time does he have.

Career defining WINS

Barreras - Got Nas and a host of others
Hopkins - Got Pavlik and again a host of others
Pacs - Got Barrera, Hoya, Marquez and host of others

Marquez - Got Diaz no way is a p4pder erm.... ohh and he drew to Pac WOW mayby casa but he was like 40