had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....

[Snakey]

Ricky Hatton was beaten before he even left his dressingroom. His only chance was to KO Mayweather even then the outcome would have been a DQ of some kind.
Fight in Vegas Floyds hometown . Ref Joe Cortez & three blind mice (judges) ALL from Vegas. What chance did Hatton stand?? Cortez made sure that Hatton would not be allowed to fight while allowing Mayweather carte blanche to hold, forearm smash & duck below the waist continuously. Not a fight on the level at all

Poor ricky, a guy whos use to fighting at home with a UK ref and UK judges and use to ruffing his opponents up on the inside with headbutts, elbows and low blows fought a guy who was fighting at home with an american ref and judges and gave him a bit of his own taste at in-fighting. Can ya really complain about it when the guy has done a fair bit of that himself?

[HattonTheHammer]

Ricky Hatton was beaten before he even left his dressingroom. His only chance was to KO Mayweather even then the outcome would have been a DQ of some kind.
Fight in Vegas Floyds hometown . Ref Joe Cortez & three blind mice (judges) ALL from Vegas. What chance did Hatton stand?? Cortez made sure that Hatton would not be allowed to fight while allowing Mayweather carte blanche to hold, forearm smash & duck below the waist continuously. Not a fight on the level at all

Poor ricky, a guy whos use to fighting at home with a UK ref and UK judges and use to ruffing his opponents up on the inside with headbutts, elbows and low blows fought a guy who was fighting at home with an american ref and judges and gave him a bit of his own taste at in-fighting. Can ya really complain about it when the guy has done a fair bit of that himself?

But nobody was asking for hatton to have preferential treatment. Just a fair fight that wasnt broken up the second it appeared ricky was going to work on the inside.

As ive clearly stated all through this thread, the fact we have ny on 100posts 2 years after the event shows there is still huge controversy surrounding this fight.

For all those that do believe this situation is dumbfounded as floyds superior speed would be too much for hatton may i please just ask you again to rewatch the 1st 5rounds up until the deduction so you can see how badly floyd was coping with rickys constant pressure

[Snakey]

Ricky Hatton was beaten before he even left his dressingroom. His only chance was to KO Mayweather even then the outcome would have been a DQ of some kind.
Fight in Vegas Floyds hometown . Ref Joe Cortez & three blind mice (judges) ALL from Vegas. What chance did Hatton stand?? Cortez made sure that Hatton would not be allowed to fight while allowing Mayweather carte blanche to hold, forearm smash & duck below the waist continuously. Not a fight on the level at all

Poor ricky, a guy whos use to fighting at home with a UK ref and UK judges and use to ruffing his opponents up on the inside with headbutts, elbows and low blows fought a guy who was fighting at home with an american ref and judges and gave him a bit of his own taste at in-fighting. Can ya really complain about it when the guy has done a fair bit of that himself?

But nobody was asking for hatton to have preferential treatment. Just a fair fight that wasnt broken up the second it appeared ricky was going to work on the inside.

As ive clearly stated all through this thread, the fact we have ny on 100posts 2 years after the event shows there is still huge controversy surrounding this fight.

For all those that do believe this situation is dumbfounded as floyds superior speed would be too much for hatton may i please just ask you again to rewatch the 1st 5rounds up until the deduction so you can see how badly floyd was coping with rickys constant pressure

Correct me if im wrong but if i remember clear enough, floyd was actually beating hatton on the inside. Tying him up before he had a chance to do much at all. He got outboxed in every way. I never thought floyd looked like losing, hatton was lunging in alot and getting caught left right and centre. It was only a matter of time until the right punch connected.

[littlebif]

Ricky Hatton was beaten before he even left his dressingroom. His only chance was to KO Mayweather even then the outcome would have been a DQ of some kind.
Fight in Vegas Floyds hometown . Ref Joe Cortez & three blind mice (judges) ALL from Vegas. What chance did Hatton stand?? Cortez made sure that Hatton would not be allowed to fight while allowing Mayweather carte blanche to hold, forearm smash & duck below the waist continuously. Not a fight on the level at all

Poor ricky, a guy whos use to fighting at home with a UK ref and UK judges and use to ruffing his opponents up on the inside with headbutts, elbows and low blows fought a guy who was fighting at home with an american ref and judges and gave him a bit of his own taste at in-fighting. Can ya really complain about it when the guy has done a fair bit of that himself?

Hatton used to headbutt He used to cut easy why would he use his head?

[piye]

I think if Cortez didn't get involved Hatton would have been knocked out earlier.

[Violent Demise]

ok guys i know we`ve been here 747,825,190 times already but what with floyds win on saturday ive once again been trawling through his career set and not for the 1st time cant stomach myself to watch past 5rounds of mayweather-hatton.

It was clear for all to see that floyds sharp overhand right f*cked hatton up everytime and that floyd had not just the speed but power advantage on ricky. But once again the fury of the performance of cortez who pretty much f*cked hattons entire gameplan is there for all to see.

Ricky is the only man to date to genuinely hurt floyd. Had the ropes had not been there in the 1st floyd would of dropped like a sack of shit and every SINGLE time hatton exploded inside landing flat on floyds chin, mayweather hugged hatton leading to joe warning hatton for what i can only presume as being "too over exhuberant"

Between 6-10 this wasnt the case, floyd whooped hatton all over the ring and showed what a class act he really is. But the annoyance is still there 2 years after it happened. Hattons gameplan WAS working a dream up until cortez decided to stamp it out and without doubt he was dominating a superior fighter with excellent tactics and footwork.

HAD lets say a kenny bayliss for instance of reffed the fight would floyd right now be sitting here with a record of 39-1?

Your a fukking idiot.

A better thread would be "Had Hatton-Tszyu not been reffed by Dave Parris what happens?"

Hatton loses. Ricky Hatton becomes Matthew Hatton

[CFH]

ok guys i know we`ve been here 747,825,190 times already but what with floyds win on saturday ive once again been trawling through his career set and not for the 1st time cant stomach myself to watch past 5rounds of mayweather-hatton.

It was clear for all to see that floyds sharp overhand right f*cked hatton up everytime and that floyd had not just the speed but power advantage on ricky. But once again the fury of the performance of cortez who pretty much f*cked hattons entire gameplan is there for all to see.

Ricky is the only man to date to genuinely hurt floyd. Had the ropes had not been there in the 1st floyd would of dropped like a sack of shit and every SINGLE time hatton exploded inside landing flat on floyds chin, mayweather hugged hatton leading to joe warning hatton for what i can only presume as being "too over exhuberant"

Between 6-10 this wasnt the case, floyd whooped hatton all over the ring and showed what a class act he really is. But the annoyance is still there 2 years after it happened. Hattons gameplan WAS working a dream up until cortez decided to stamp it out and without doubt he was dominating a superior fighter with excellent tactics and footwork.

HAD lets say a kenny bayliss for instance of reffed the fight would floyd right now be sitting here with a record of 39-1?

Floyd would have beaten Hatton if Ricky Hatton's own mother was the ref and Hatton never once hurt PBF. Jesus Christ. I think I gave Hatton 2 rounds, the fight wasn't close at all. There were some uncomfortable moments for Mayweather because of Hatton's pressure but he was winning the fight handily.

[Tysonbruno]

Mayweather whooped Hatton ASS!! end of in round 1 Floyd stumbled he werent hurt and yes Cortez was abit harsh at times but as he says he is fair but he is firm. The Mayweather camp had highlighted the hook and hold tactics of Hatton and why shouldnt Hatton get told about it without looking at the scorecards i think it was 98-92 Floyd before the KO so no Hatton werent going to win if Hatton was a better fighter he would have had a plan B and fought from distance but he couldnt because he would get picked off easier. I remember Hatton saying before the fight if he stands toe to toe with me he's gunna get eaten well Floyd did and he was far better at rough house tactics than Hatton and in my mind this was the fight that finished Hatton he took to many clean hard shots over 10 rounds and Pacquiao got the scraps that were left. I know your a massive Hatton fan but he got beat by the better fighter one of the best fighters of all time.

[spade]

Where's hattonthehammer?

[HattonTheHammer]

Mayweather whooped Hatton ASS!! end of in round 1 Floyd stumbled he werent hurt and yes Cortez was abit harsh at times but as he says he is fair but he is firm. The Mayweather camp had highlighted the hook and hold tactics of Hatton and why shouldnt Hatton get told about it without looking at the scorecards i think it was 98-92 Floyd before the KO so no Hatton werent going to win if Hatton was a better fighter he would have had a plan B and fought from distance but he couldnt because he would get picked off easier. I remember Hatton saying before the fight if he stands toe to toe with me he's gunna get eaten well Floyd did and he was far better at rough house tactics than Hatton and in my mind this was the fight that finished Hatton he took to many clean hard shots over 10 rounds and Pacquiao got the scraps that were left. I know your a massive Hatton fan but he got beat by the better fighter one of the best fighters of all time.

jesus even the biggest floyd nuthuggers this site has to offer will tell you cortez went out of his way to punish hatton at every opportunity that night

every single time it was hatton trying to instigate the fight on the inside and floyd grabbing at the 1st opportunity. In the UK you would be formally warned straight away that by constantly grabbing your opponent you are stopping the flow of the contest and eventually you`d be thrown out of there.

I held up my hands up after the fight and admitted ricky took a beating by a far superior fighter who was simply too quick and too awkward for ricky. But back to my original question. Cortez allowed hatton to get away with everything he didnt allow not 5months earlier when he fought castillo. What exactly happened within those 5months for joe cortez to throw away a lifetime of his own boxing oks and no-nos and completely role reverse the whole situation.

i had hatton only winning 3 of the rounds before the KO so dont have any complaints about the loss. But it was clear for all to see hatton dug his own grave on the back of his frustrations at how the fight was being reffed and the wrongful point deduction ultimately led to his downfall

[eagle]

Mayweather whooped Hatton ASS!! end of in round 1 Floyd stumbled he werent hurt and yes Cortez was abit harsh at times but as he says he is fair but he is firm. The Mayweather camp had highlighted the hook and hold tactics of Hatton and why shouldnt Hatton get told about it without looking at the scorecards i think it was 98-92 Floyd before the KO so no Hatton werent going to win if Hatton was a better fighter he would have had a plan B and fought from distance but he couldnt because he would get picked off easier. I remember Hatton saying before the fight if he stands toe to toe with me he's gunna get eaten well Floyd did and he was far better at rough house tactics than Hatton and in my mind this was the fight that finished Hatton he took to many clean hard shots over 10 rounds and Pacquiao got the scraps that were left. I know your a massive Hatton fan but he got beat by the better fighter one of the best fighters of all time.

jesus even the biggest floyd nuthuggers this site has to offer will tell you cortez went out of his way to punish hatton at every opportunity that night

every single time it was hatton trying to instigate the fight on the inside and floyd grabbing at the 1st opportunity. In the UK you would be formally warned straight away that by constantly grabbing your opponent you are stopping the flow of the contest and eventually you`d be thrown out of there.

I held up my hands up after the fight and admitted ricky took a beating by a far superior fighter who was simply too quick and too awkward for ricky. But back to my original question. Cortez allowed hatton to get away with everything he didnt allow not 5months earlier when he fought castillo. What exactly happened within those 5months for joe cortez to throw away a lifetime of his own boxing oks and no-nos and completely role reverse the whole situation.

i had hatton only winning 3 of the rounds before the KO so dont have any complaints about the loss. But it was clear for all to see hatton dug his own grave on the back of his frustrations at how the fight was being reffed and the wrongful point deduction ultimately led to his downfall

So HATTONTHEHAMMER do u honestly think Cortez's refereeing display was more biased than Dave Parris's in the Tzsyu fight?

[HattonTheHammer]

Mayweather whooped Hatton ASS!! end of in round 1 Floyd stumbled he werent hurt and yes Cortez was abit harsh at times but as he says he is fair but he is firm. The Mayweather camp had highlighted the hook and hold tactics of Hatton and why shouldnt Hatton get told about it without looking at the scorecards i think it was 98-92 Floyd before the KO so no Hatton werent going to win if Hatton was a better fighter he would have had a plan B and fought from distance but he couldnt because he would get picked off easier. I remember Hatton saying before the fight if he stands toe to toe with me he's gunna get eaten well Floyd did and he was far better at rough house tactics than Hatton and in my mind this was the fight that finished Hatton he took to many clean hard shots over 10 rounds and Pacquiao got the scraps that were left. I know your a massive Hatton fan but he got beat by the better fighter one of the best fighters of all time.

jesus even the biggest floyd nuthuggers this site has to offer will tell you cortez went out of his way to punish hatton at every opportunity that night

every single time it was hatton trying to instigate the fight on the inside and floyd grabbing at the 1st opportunity. In the UK you would be formally warned straight away that by constantly grabbing your opponent you are stopping the flow of the contest and eventually you`d be thrown out of there.

I held up my hands up after the fight and admitted ricky took a beating by a far superior fighter who was simply too quick and too awkward for ricky. But back to my original question. Cortez allowed hatton to get away with everything he didnt allow not 5months earlier when he fought castillo. What exactly happened within those 5months for joe cortez to throw away a lifetime of his own boxing oks and no-nos and completely role reverse the whole situation.

i had hatton only winning 3 of the rounds before the KO so dont have any complaints about the loss. But it was clear for all to see hatton dug his own grave on the back of his frustrations at how the fight was being reffed and the wrongful point deduction ultimately led to his downfall

So HATTONTHEHAMMER do u honestly think Cortez's refereeing display was more biased than Dave Parris's in the Tzsyu fight?

Dave Parris has employed the same ethos all his career

Had that of been O`connell, vann or any other british ref that would of been the same outcome. Hatton did NOTHING illegal in that fight and kostya simply got beat by a man who was far superior at what he was doing.

Yes had that fight of been in a bigger ring somewhere in melbourne there may have been a different result due to the fact different board of controls read from different textbooks. But it wasnt and despite the complaints hatton won a fair and square fight against a ring legend.

Entirely different story to what went down in vegas. Cortez did everything possible to ensure hatton didnt walk away as victor that night.

• the endless warnings for holding on
• endless occasions being told to keep his punches up
• getting warned between virtually every round about his conduct
• point deduction for hitting floyd in the back when it was floyd who blatantly dived under the ropes
• failure to spot at least a dozen floyd forearms to the face
• allowing mayweather to hold at every opportunity
• asking hatton at the end of the 8th if he`d like to stop the fight despite ricky being of perfect mind
• even at one point telling ricky he`d deduct a point unless he stopped talking(actually floyd as well which made it even more ridiculous)

Call me bitter but cortez robbed us of a fair fight

[eagle]

jesus even the biggest floyd nuthuggers this site has to offer will tell you cortez went out of his way to punish hatton at every opportunity that night

every single time it was hatton trying to instigate the fight on the inside and floyd grabbing at the 1st opportunity. In the UK you would be formally warned straight away that by constantly grabbing your opponent you are stopping the flow of the contest and eventually you`d be thrown out of there.

I held up my hands up after the fight and admitted ricky took a beating by a far superior fighter who was simply too quick and too awkward for ricky. But back to my original question. Cortez allowed hatton to get away with everything he didnt allow not 5months earlier when he fought castillo. What exactly happened within those 5months for joe cortez to throw away a lifetime of his own boxing oks and no-nos and completely role reverse the whole situation.

i had hatton only winning 3 of the rounds before the KO so dont have any complaints about the loss. But it was clear for all to see hatton dug his own grave on the back of his frustrations at how the fight was being reffed and the wrongful point deduction ultimately led to his downfall

So HATTONTHEHAMMER do u honestly think Cortez's refereeing display was more biased than Dave Parris's in the Tzsyu fight?

Dave Parris has employed the same ethos all his career

Had that of been O`connell, vann or any other british ref that would of been the same outcome. Hatton did NOTHING illegal in that fight and kostya simply got beat by a man who was far superior at what he was doing.

Yes had that fight of been in a bigger ring somewhere in melbourne there may have been a different result due to the fact different board of controls read from different textbooks. But it wasnt and despite the complaints hatton won a fair and square fight against a ring legend.

Entirely different story to what went down in vegas. Cortez did everything possible to ensure hatton didnt walk away as victor that night.

• the endless warnings for holding on
• endless occasions being told to keep his punches up
• getting warned between virtually every round about his conduct
• point deduction for hitting floyd in the back when it was floyd who blatantly dived under the ropes
• failure to spot at least a dozen floyd forearms to the face
• allowing mayweather to hold at every opportunity
• asking hatton at the end of the 8th if he`d like to stop the fight despite ricky being of perfect mind
• even at one point telling ricky he`d deduct a point unless he stopped talking(actually floyd as well which made it even more ridiculous)

Call me bitter but cortez robbed us of a fair fight

You are a fucken idiot mate. Nothing illegal?

Constant holding and hitting, rabbit punching.
Endless grappling and wrestling.
And the worst and most blatant low blow i have ever seen.
All Hatton did was lunge in and hold all night and was never warned!

If a fair ref had been in charge of the Hatton Tszyu fight there is far more chance Kostya would have won that fight than Hatton ever had v Mayweather as the scores were closer. Truth is as soon as Ricky didnt have the ref doing exactly what he wanted he was exposed.

And maybe u arent giving Joe credit, if Hatton had stopped at end of the 8th he wouldnt have got knocked the fuck out.

This vid shows it all, Parris warns Tszyu for a few meak hits that never went below the belt, then only warns Hatton for running up and punching Kostya as hard as he can in the balls, as if it were the same offense. In the video every clinch is instigated by Ricky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY1gr9pniIc

[Gandalf]

There can be no doubt that Cortez played a significant part in that bout. An awful display of officiating if ever there was one.

[Althugz]

ok guys i know we`ve been here 747,825,190 times already but what with floyds win on saturday ive once again been trawling through his career set and not for the 1st time cant stomach myself to watch past 5rounds of mayweather-hatton.

It was clear for all to see that floyds sharp overhand right f*cked hatton up everytime and that floyd had not just the speed but power advantage on ricky. But once again the fury of the performance of cortez who pretty much f*cked hattons entire gameplan is there for all to see.

Ricky is the only man to date to genuinely hurt floyd. Had the ropes had not been there in the 1st floyd would of dropped like a sack of shit and every SINGLE time hatton exploded inside landing flat on floyds chin, mayweather hugged hatton leading to joe warning hatton for what i can only presume as being "too over exhuberant"

Between 6-10 this wasnt the case, floyd whooped hatton all over the ring and showed what a class act he really is. But the annoyance is still there 2 years after it happened. Hattons gameplan WAS working a dream up until cortez decided to stamp it out and without doubt he was dominating a superior fighter with excellent tactics and footwork.

HAD lets say a kenny bayliss for instance of reffed the fight would floyd right now be sitting here with a record of 39-1?

Oh for gods sake...

Majesty, I wish I stopped reading too...



P.S. If we're discussing the Kostya fight as well, then we must talk about the legit knockdown that Kostya scored via the perfectly placed body shot to Ricky's stomach. Paris called it a low blow

Kostya should never have come over here but the allure of a big payday was too great I suppose.