Recent superstars to be who went bust

[Majesty]

am i the only person that said victor ortiz?

[amat]

Has Ortiz gone bust

[Kev]

am i the only person that said victor ortiz?

Nah I mentioned him in my first post but said it was too early to write him off yet.

[killersheep]

Speaking of Escalante I think Mike Oliver was a much bigger bust. He literally could very well have the fastest hands the boxing world has ever seen. Then Reynaldo Lopez caught him with a nice looping hook and poof, big step back. Manages to bill a fight with Escalante in the next fight and goes on to be flattened. Where is he now?

[amat]

I forgot all fighters we're supposed to go undefeated for their whole careers or they are a bust. Nevermind coming back from their only loss with a win on HBO, you're right his career is dead for sure. That's why you have to mention it twice right Majesty? How bout you mention Audley Harrisson or some of these other fighters who you always lament people for writing off. The hypocrisy is extremely annoying.

Rigondeaux I'm not sure if he's mismanaged, he just got out of Cuba and obviously there is a HUGE adjustment period that comes after that. There are some minor questions imo, like whether or not he can be as effective pressing the fight.

Shawn Porter is way to green to think about stepping up right now, his last performance definitely did not meet expectations.

[fan johnny]

Nate Campbell

[killersheep]

Bilbo's favorite fighter of all time Cristian Mijares probably fits this as well. Even though all three of his recent losses were against high level competition, he was held to standard he couldn't maintain.

[amat]

Jacobs will probably be on this list a few years from now

You think so? Unless he gets complacent I think he has a lot of talent, he's definitely not a power puncher though imo.

[CFH]

Nate Campbell

How so? He's had a very good career.

[killersheep]

Nate Campbell

How so? He's had a very good career.

I agree he has nothing to shame him except for this............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq9Xs8BeRuQ

But he has had a great career, he can still get on great cards no bust there.

[Kev]

Bilbo's favorite fighter of all time Cristian Mijares probably fits this as well. Even though all three of his recent losses were against high level competition, he was held to standard he couldn't maintain.

Nah Mijares nor Donaire qualify. I am talking about fighters for whom great things were expected, who fell short before they got to fight for world title honours.

Mijares did demolish Jorge Arce so he can definitely be said to have reached the top, he just wasn't there for long.

I'm specifically talking about prospects here, who just fell far short of what people expected at one point.

From the list I mentioned in the original post I think Joel Julio and Andy Lee have been the biggest disappointments. Julio was suppposed to be a future superstar, and Manny Sterward boldly proclaimed Andy Lee would rule the middleweight division.

Both have fallen far short of those ideals.

I don't count Breidas Prescott either as he was never hyped from early on, he beat Amir Khan as an unknown and has since gone back to obscurity, but nobody was touting greatness for him from his very beginnings.

The current prospects as I said above are Landra, Rigondeaux, Korobov, Solis, Porter etc.

I think it's interesting to see who you guys think will succeed and fail, and especially interesting the polarising views we have, CFH thinking Landra will be a p4p star, and myself thinking him the most likely to underachieve.

Interesting debate I think, with the bonus that it's not about dead people at least, but only dead careers.

[OumaFan]

I just don't really see it with Jacobs. Not an elite guy IMO.

More on topic, I never bought into the Allan Green hype but he was going along pretty well till he got stopped by Donny McCrory

[killersheep]

Bilbo's favorite fighter of all time Cristian Mijares probably fits this as well. Even though all three of his recent losses were against high level competition, he was held to standard he couldn't maintain.

Nah Mijares nor Donaire qualify. I am talking about fighters for whom great things were expected, who fell short before they got to fight for world title honours.

Mijares did demolish Jorge Arce so he can definitely be said to have reached the top, he just wasn't there for long.

I'm specifically talking about prospects here, who just fell far short of what people expected at one point.

From the list I mentioned in the original post I think Joel Julio and Andy Lee have been the biggest disappointments. Julio was suppposed to be a future superstar, and Manny Sterward boldly proclaimed Andy Lee would rule the middleweight division.

Both have fallen far short of those ideals.

I don't count Breidas Prescott either as he was never hyped from early on, he beat Amir Khan as an unknown and has since gone back to obscurity, but nobody was touting greatness for him from his very beginnings.

The current prospects as I said above are Landra, Rigondeaux, Korobov, Solis, Porter etc.

I think it's interesting to see who you guys think will succeed and fail, and especially interesting the polarising views we have, CFH thinking Landra will be a p4p star, and myself thinking him the most likely to underachieve.

Interesting debate I think, with the bonus that it's not about dead people at least, but only dead careers.

Who's Landra? You've mentioned him a few times now, I seriously haven't ever heard of him.

[killersheep]

Bilbo's favorite fighter of all time Cristian Mijares probably fits this as well. Even though all three of his recent losses were against high level competition, he was held to standard he couldn't maintain.

Nah Mijares nor Donaire qualify. I am talking about fighters for whom great things were expected, who fell short before they got to fight for world title honours.

Mijares did demolish Jorge Arce so he can definitely be said to have reached the top, he just wasn't there for long.

I'm specifically talking about prospects here, who just fell far short of what people expected at one point.

From the list I mentioned in the original post I think Joel Julio and Andy Lee have been the biggest disappointments. Julio was suppposed to be a future superstar, and Manny Sterward boldly proclaimed Andy Lee would rule the middleweight division.

Both have fallen far short of those ideals.

I don't count Breidas Prescott either as he was never hyped from early on, he beat Amir Khan as an unknown and has since gone back to obscurity, but nobody was touting greatness for him from his very beginnings.

The current prospects as I said above are Landra, Rigondeaux, Korobov, Solis, Porter etc.

I think it's interesting to see who you guys think will succeed and fail, and especially interesting the polarising views we have, CFH thinking Landra will be a p4p star, and myself thinking him the most likely to underachieve.

Interesting debate I think, with the bonus that it's not about dead people at least, but only dead careers.

So Oliver qualifies then?

[Kev]

Bilbo's favorite fighter of all time Cristian Mijares probably fits this as well. Even though all three of his recent losses were against high level competition, he was held to standard he couldn't maintain.

Nah Mijares nor Donaire qualify. I am talking about fighters for whom great things were expected, who fell short before they got to fight for world title honours.

Mijares did demolish Jorge Arce so he can definitely be said to have reached the top, he just wasn't there for long.

I'm specifically talking about prospects here, who just fell far short of what people expected at one point.

From the list I mentioned in the original post I think Joel Julio and Andy Lee have been the biggest disappointments. Julio was suppposed to be a future superstar, and Manny Sterward boldly proclaimed Andy Lee would rule the middleweight division.

Both have fallen far short of those ideals.

I don't count Breidas Prescott either as he was never hyped from early on, he beat Amir Khan as an unknown and has since gone back to obscurity, but nobody was touting greatness for him from his very beginnings.

The current prospects as I said above are Landra, Rigondeaux, Korobov, Solis, Porter etc.

I think it's interesting to see who you guys think will succeed and fail, and especially interesting the polarising views we have, CFH thinking Landra will be a p4p star, and myself thinking him the most likely to underachieve.

Interesting debate I think, with the bonus that it's not about dead people at least, but only dead careers.

Who's Landra? You've mentioned him a few times now, I seriously haven't ever heard of him.

Sorry I mean Lara, I just call him Landra for short.