Amir Khan vs Erik Morales

[Mars_ax]

This fight is just another big name past his prime that will make Khan's resume look nice.

Right, another washed up "hall of famer" to fatten Khan's resume.

[Mars_ax]

I was against this when Roach first joked about it. Wanker.

That being said Morales would at least TRY which is a hell of a lot more than Judah looked to do.

Sure Morales would try, and he'd have to do more then Judah, who only landed 20 punches the entire fight against Khan, but at this stage of Erik's career, a fight with Khan would have to be a total mismatch.

[Kev]

Ok all you whiners who are such doomers about everything, who would you have Khan fight?

Bradley won't go near him, he's already beaten Maidana and Judah, who were the other highest rated challengers.

Morales just fought a thriller with Maidana in what was one of the very best fights of the year, he's a massive name and it's a big interwst fight. It's also dependent on Morales winning his next fight.

So, as it's such a shit fight, who should Khan fight? How does he pursuade them to fight him? And what do they bring to the table more than Eric Morales?

[Kev]

People on here just like to bitch without thinking. They want every fight to be the hardest and best fight possible across the board, which is a bit difficult to achieve when one of these top opponents is fighting somebody else.

Also, they resent big stars winning world titles or even fighting for them if they don't consider it "just", but then whine when there is a mediocre champion holding a belt.

So if Manny wins a world title at a catchweight it makes a mockery of the belt, it should be vacant and fought for by two journymen, the p4p best fighter on the planet is not good enough to be champ, but they are.

Or if a fighter like Berto loses his title in his sixth defence he shouldnt be allowed a shot to win another, again a journeyman should be given his chance.

Then if a fighter like Saul Alvarez wins a belt he doesn't deserve it, he's not proved he's world class yet, he should be made to earn his shot as he might be just a journeyman. Then when he chooses a journeyman to defend against it's an outrage. He's handpicking easy meat, he should fight an established, proven star, like a former world champ who has just lost a world title...and round and round the lunatic statements go.

It's like people think there is an unlimited pool of top level elite opponents available for top fighters to face at all times...

I just wish people would think before posting sometimes as the gripes are usually very very silly indeed.

[Kev]

Ok lets try and go through this.

Here are the Ring rankings at Jr Welterweight. Please someone explain who is the better fight that Amir must take.

1. Khan Top rated guy now according to the Ring
2. Bradley, Khan has offered him everything, but Bradley won't fight him.
3. Maidana, Khan already beat him, scraped a win over Morales last time out
4. D Alexander, dominated by Bradley, most think he lost to Matthyse,many think he lost to Kotelnik, a guy Khan breezed by.
5. Kotelnik, Khan already beat him in a one sided fight.
6. Matthyse, has lost his last two including one to Judah, who Khan blew away
7. Lamont Peterson, dominated by lightweight Brandon Rios. Was floored and should have lost a fairly one sided decision to Ortiz in what was a rather disgraceful draw.
8.Erik Morales, this guy makes sense to me. Big name, came so close to beating Maidana who gave Khan a war. Probably will be shortlisted for fight of the year.
9. Zab Judah. Khan just stomped him
10. Danny Garcia...err who?


So that's the shortlist, please someone explain why Morales is worse than the others on that list?

[Mars_ax]

People on here just like to bitch without thinking. They want every fight to be the hardest and best fight possible across the board, which is a bit difficult to achieve when one of these top opponents is fighting somebody else.

Also, they resent big stars winning world titles or even fighting for them if they don't consider it "just", but then whine when there is a mediocre champion holding a belt.

So if Manny wins a world title at a catchweight it makes a mockery of the belt, it should be vacant and fought for by two journymen, the p4p best fighter on the planet is not good enough to be champ, but they are.

Or if a fighter like Berto loses his title in his sixth defence he shouldnt be allowed a shot to win another, again a journeyman should be given his chance.

Then if a fighter like Saul Alvarez wins a belt he doesn't deserve it, he's not proved he's world class yet, he should be made to earn his shot as he might be just a journeyman. Then when he chooses a journeyman to defend against it's an outrage. He's handpicking easy meat, he should fight an established, proven star, like a former world champ who has just lost a world title...and round and round the lunatic statements go.

It's like people think there is an unlimited pool of top level elite opponents available for top fighters to face at all times...

I just wish people would think before posting sometimes as the gripes are usually very very silly indeed.

It might seem "very very silly" or like "bitching without thinking" to you Bilbo, but I have no interest in watching Morales in a mismatch with Khan.

[Kev]

Who does Khan fight then that won't be a mismatch?

[jon09]

Who does Khan fight then that won't be a mismatch?

Hmm well lets throw a few names out there. Humberto Soto could be an interesting fight. I'm sure Brandon Rios would pack on a few pounds and go after Khan. Rematch with Maidana or how about Joan Guzman?

[littlebif]

Who does Khan fight then that won't be a mismatch?

Hmm well lets throw a few names out there. Humberto Soto could be an interesting fight. I'm sure Brandon Rios would pack on a few pounds and go after Khan. Rematch with Maidana or how about Joan Guzman?

Joan Guzman is getting on now, he is a huge waste of talent and he strugles to make the weight in alot of his fight so i wouldnt fight him.

Brandon Rios would be an ok opponent even though he would have to move up aweight. There is the winner of Maidana - Guerrero fight which i think Guerrero wins. That would be a good opponent for Khan if Guerrrero wins imo.

[Kev]

Who does Khan fight then that won't be a mismatch?

Hmm well lets throw a few names out there. Humberto Soto could be an interesting fight. I'm sure Brandon Rios would pack on a few pounds and go after Khan. Rematch with Maidana or how about Joan Guzman?

Khan fights at junior welter, both Rios and Soto hold world title belts at lightweight.

They would be more likely to face each other no, and try and unify the lightweight division?

Rios has no intention of moving up yet, he's said he wants to carry on at lightweight.

I think it's hilarious that when guys like Manny and Floyd move through weight classes people criticise them for not cleaning out a division, and now Khan is cleaning out a division you want him to move through weight classes or bring smaller guys up.

You have agreed with me though, there is no better challenge at 140 for Khan than Morales.

Guzman is a ridiculous choice btw. Not only has he discredited the sport multiple times whilst failing to make weight and refusing to fight he got the biggest gift draw in years agiants Ali Funeka at lightweight, and then came in for the rematch massively overweight, didn't even attempt to make weight and rather disgracefully was allowed to win the rematch. He deserves nothing. Also, where is he ranked in the 140 lb division?


Also, what makes you think Soto is a better opponent than Morales? Didn't Morales just fight a war with Maidana and lose a razor thin decision in arguably the best fight of the year so far? What makes you think Soto at light welter would do better than him? Seeing as Morales is worldranked and now proven at this weight class following that performance shouldn't we follow the rankings and results and matchup the best ranked fighters? Soto is unranked at 140 and would almost certainly not want to give up his newly acquired belt at 135 anyway.

Your picks just prove that Khan has no better opponent to face than Morales right now. Yes I think he will win comfortably, but when you are the best in the division that tends to happen in most fights. There are only one or two fighters at 140 who can really teat Khan and he can't make a career out of fighting only those two over and over.

Morales is the best matchup available at this time, a massive name, a ticket seller, and coming off one of the best fights of the year.

[Kev]

Who does Khan fight then that won't be a mismatch?

Hmm well lets throw a few names out there. Humberto Soto could be an interesting fight. I'm sure Brandon Rios would pack on a few pounds and go after Khan. Rematch with Maidana or how about Joan Guzman?

Joan Guzman is getting on now, he is a huge waste of talent and he strugles to make the weight in alot of his fight so i wouldnt fight him.

Brandon Rios would be an ok opponent even though he would have to move up aweight. There is the winner of Maidana - Guerrero fight which i think Guerrero wins. That would be a good opponent for Khan if Guerrrero wins imo.

khan Gurrero would be a great fight. But whilst he's fighting Maidana who does Khan face in the meantime?

[Gandalf]

He avenges his loss to Prescott or else gives Maidana a rematch to prove that a crude slugger should not have made it such a close fight. Morales is clearly a step back, now if Morales had beated Maidana there would have been a case, but is stands it is clearly merely a treading water kind of fight. Morales is no JWW.

[Fenster]

He avenges his loss to Prescott or else gives Maidana a rematch to prove that a crude slugger should not have made it such a close fight. Morales is clearly a step back, now if Morales had beated Maidana there would have been a case, but is stands it is clearly merely a treading water kind of fight. Morales is no JWW.

You're out of touch.

Morales is ranked in the top 10 at lightwelter by The Ring. He is about to become WBC champion.

Khan-Morales will be a big selling unification fight between two of the worlds elite lightwelters. Fact.

[Master]

He avenges his loss to Prescott or else gives Maidana a rematch to prove that a crude slugger should not have made it such a close fight. Morales is clearly a step back, now if Morales had beated Maidana there would have been a case, but is stands it is clearly merely a treading water kind of fight. Morales is no JWW.

You're out of touch.

Morales is ranked in the top 10 at lightwelter by The Ring. He is about to become WBC champion.

Khan-Morales will be a big selling unification fight between two of the worlds elite lightwelters. Fact.

That is political and corporate manipulation, but agree with Khan's lawyer and advocate namely Bilbo, that Amir is not ducking anyone in the division.

[Gandalf]

He avenges his loss to Prescott or else gives Maidana a rematch to prove that a crude slugger should not have made it such a close fight. Morales is clearly a step back, now if Morales had beated Maidana there would have been a case, but is stands it is clearly merely a treading water kind of fight. Morales is no JWW.

You're out of touch.

Morales is ranked in the top 10 at lightwelter by The Ring. He is about to become WBC champion.

Khan-Morales will be a big selling unification fight between two of the worlds elite lightwelters. Fact.

That is political and corporate manipulation, but agree with Khan's lawyer and advocate namely Bilbo, that Amir is not ducking anyone in the division.

Exactly. Why is Morales fighting for a title on the back of a loss. Surely, he goes down a few places. And it is a basic fact, that Morales lost to Maidana and Maidana had Khan on queer street, that would have been the most logical matchup.