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    Tough one. If he stays on the inside and makes it a rough fight, Ward could pull off a semi-boring ugly decision, maybe. the network kisses wards asshole, but he really hasn't impressed me that much so far. i thought he fought kinda dirty at times.
    But something tells me that Froch is gonna take him. He has looked like a beast lately and seems like one tough MF. I believe ultimately froch's heart & strength will overcome wards skill and inside grappling. so let's hope!!!

    it's a tough one.

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    I like both guys and I think Froch has been one of the bright spots in boxing for the past couple of years. That being said when I play this fight out in my mind I just don't see Froch getting to Ward. I think its going to be an ugly but intelligently fought bout by Ward and he wins a wide decision. I definitely think Froch will have his moments and may hurt Andre early but my gut and brain are saying Ward will be victorious.

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    I personally did not see anything specifically special about Froch except that he has an awkward style that meshes with Ward's style of boxing. The fight itself could be technical and Ward stays on the outside but truthfully Froch has been in some ugly ones coming up as well. Ward's jab and movement would prove difficult for Froch. Froch can be a bit of a beast as well as he was with Dirrell and Abraham. I like Ward but Froch has power I think Ward will win a decisision but not by a wide margin unless he suddenly KO's Froch

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    this thread will be full of posts about froch's lack of skill and ward will win by easy descision

    Froch by KO
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    Ward is going to make it looks easy. I'll predict a 117-111 UD.

    I'd love to see Froch win, but I just can't envision it happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Ward is going to make it looks easy. I'll predict a 117-111 UD.

    I'd love to see Froch win, but I just can't envision it happening.
    Admitedly I haven't seen a great deal of Ward, but from what I have seen, I agree with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    this thread will be full of posts about froch's lack of skill and ward will win by easy descision

    Froch by KO
    What makes you think Froch will win easily?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    this thread will be full of posts about froch's lack of skill and ward will win by easy descision

    Froch by KO
    What makes you think Froch will win easily?

    i dont think he will win easy, i reckon it will be a good fight, Ward is usually in shit fights but froch will make him fight on the inside rather than letting him smother as usual

    everyone is saying it is froch who will need a plan C but I dont think so, i reckon the styles clash in froch's favour and ward will have to adapt and fight out of his confort zone

    Ward will try his usual, get hit with some big punches early on, and by the late rounds it will take its toll and Froch will stop him
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    Im looking fprward to see Frochs physical strength against Ward. Look at Wards fight with Bika. Bika had good success against him by just fighting wild. Froch is a slightly more refined version. I think Ward will struggle with Froch who has good stamina and will still be strong in the last few rounds. I can see a very close decision either way but hope Froch wins. No one enjoys watching Ward smother opponents. Hatton got moaned at about it in his fights but with Ward its skillfull!

    I dont know why refs let it go on. Ok let the action continue but no effective punches can be thrown from a clinch anyway! It comes to something when part of your game plan is to have to hold. Froch doesnt mind taking a shot to give one and wont be intimidated as some were to let his hands go against Ward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    this thread will be full of posts about froch's lack of skill and ward will win by easy descision

    Froch by KO
    Erics44, you unabashedly support British fighters even when they miserably fail you (e.g. Haye) so I can't help but admire your pride. Froch, unlike Haye, is a proven warrior who brings the fight. I've picked against Froch in the past and been wrong. When I first heard of Froch, I rooted against him because he can come off like a brash, arrogant pr*ck, but he has grown on me so much so that now I believe he really is what's good about boxing. He travels to fight the best. He takes his training seriously and always comes intothe fight prepared well. I'm a Froch fan. I even was in the minority who thought he beat Kessler. Stand up Nottingham!

    I also am not a huge fan of Ward's style. Maybe it's because he seems to lack a killer instinct or because he can't punch. Maybe I wish he came down a little harder on Dirrell for dodging him. Maybe it's his preaching religous stuff. I can't put my finger on it. He just hasn't won me over yet for some reason.

    I'll be rooting for Froch in this fight against Ward, which is odd for me because usually I root for the American. I believe, however, Froch is the underdog for a reason. I don't see how Froch gets to Ward enough to win. His best chance is to hurt Ward and take him out, but Ward doesn't tire, he fought all 12 rounds against Sakio Bika without tiring. I've also noticed that Froch's power hasn't translated at the top level. When was the last time Froch knocked anyone down or out? 2 years ago? Ward will model his fight on the Direll fight, but he'll engage Froch more than Direll. It'll likely be another Ward stinker.

    I'll say this: I won't be surprised if Froch wins any fight because he is a legitimate solid fighter, but the odds are against him this time.

    On that note, I'm going to watch the Darnell Boone v. Andre Ward fight (Ward gets knocked down) and a few old Froch fights before I finalize my opinion.

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    Oh and Erics44, I'm sure you already know this but you got the heavyweight fights you were waiting for this weekend in Povetkin v. Chagaev and Helenius v. Liakovich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    this thread will be full of posts about froch's lack of skill and ward will win by easy descision

    Froch by KO
    Erics44, you unabashedly support British fighters even when they miserably fail you (e.g. Haye) so I can't help but admire your pride. Froch, unlike Haye, is a proven warrior who brings the fight. I've picked against Froch in the past and been wrong. When I first heard of Froch, I rooted against him because he can come off like a brash, arrogant pr*ck, but he has grown on me so much so that now I believe he really is what's good about boxing. He travels to fight the best. He takes his training seriously and always comes intothe fight prepared well. I'm a Froch fan. I even was in the minority who thought he beat Kessler. Stand up Nottingham!

    I also am not a huge fan of Ward's style. Maybe it's because he seems to lack a killer instinct or because he can't punch. Maybe I wish he came down a little harder on Dirrell for dodging him. Maybe it's his preaching religous stuff. I can't put my finger on it. He just hasn't won me over yet for some reason.

    I'll be rooting for Froch in this fight against Ward, which is odd for me because usually I root for the American. I believe, however, Froch is the underdog for a reason. I don't see how Froch gets to Ward enough to win. His best chance is to hurt Ward and take him out, but Ward doesn't tire, he fought all 12 rounds against Sakio Bika without tiring. I've also noticed that Froch's power hasn't translated at the top level. When was the last time Froch knocked anyone down or out? 2 years ago? Ward will model his fight on the Direll fight, but he'll engage Froch more than Direll. It'll likely be another Ward stinker.

    I'll say this: I won't be surprised if Froch wins any fight because he is a legitimate solid fighter, but the odds are against him this time.

    On that note, I'm going to watch the Darnell Boone v. Andre Ward fight (Ward gets knocked down) and a few old Froch fights before I finalize my opinion.
    Froch beat Kessler IMO too, i think if there was a little less hate for Froch then more people would see it that way

    he landed a lot more than Kessler and looked a lot stronger through out the fight, all Kessler did was come forward

    I am a fan of british fighters yes but i am not biast after a fight, I thought hatton lost to collazo, i thought haye was lucky to get the nod against Valuev (and there are many other examples i just cant think of right now). Ive watched the Froch Kessler fight 3 or 4 times and i just cant see a case for Kes

    I thought Froch beat Dirrell due to negativity but I can see a case for people thinking the other way round so i understand the argument, but again I dont see a case for Kes

    I supported David Haye for 2 reasons - because he is British and because I actually thought he might win and we might get a HW division back, and just to put the record straight he didnt miserably fail me. He was unified Cruiserweight Champ and HW champ and had some exciting fights along the way, I hope Britain get another fighter like that soon

    My view on the Klit Haye fight now is (and i think this is objective) people are a little hard on haye for his performance, yes it wasnt fun to watch. But He went to germany and gave away all of the advantages and for the last 10 years we have had no excitement in the HW division in or out of the ring and for the first time in that time haye created that. So yes he didnt deliver but he does deserve credit

    when is the next time we will have any excitement with the HWs?

    As for Froch and Ward, I think Ward is Overrated, who has he fought in his carear and then who to get to the supersix final? Abraham? Froch did a better job, his one shining result is Kessler

    You mention Bika, yes tough as old boots but beaten soundly a number of times before

    And Froch does have power, the people he has fought in the last 2 years dont get knocked out
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    I think Ward wins, maybe even puts on a clinic
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    Bad style match up for Froch. Ward is gonna look great in this one. Dirrel isn't as tough or versatile as Ward is and he probably should have gotten the win in his fight with Froch. Ward is going to be able to outbox Froch pretty handily, and when they do fight inside I think Ward will surprise many and hold his own. Ward by UD, call it 9 rounds to 3 (maybe). I think both/either will destroy Bute.

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