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    Default Re: Why dont MMA fighter`s turn to boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manos de Piedra View Post
    I've tried both and I found boxing more difficult of the two. In my opinion and experience the sweet science is alot more difficult to master than grappling and take downs.
    That probably means you are more naturaly gifted at MMA than you are at boxing. Also the level of opposition you fought in either sport.
    Its nice to find someone who has done both sports. How did you find the ground game in MMA. Did it come easy to you or did you find people would be able to manouver there way around to always get the advantage. And when you go back into boxing do you find it hard not to try and throw a knee every time you get a fighter that puts his head down to avoid punches.

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    Default Re: Why dont MMA fighter`s turn to boxing?

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    I agreed with Miles' sentiments until he brought up Calzaghe as a plus point for boxing which really lowers the credibility of the arguement but alas, mistakes are made and can be forgiven..

    MMA fighters don't make the switch because they would be destroyed. While I accept that MMA is a more "complete" fighting art, the fighters themselves are more like Jacks of all trades and masters of none. Of course, they have their strengths..Brock was an NCAA wrestling champion but the skills of an elite boxer who has mastered his craft just cannot be found in MMA (Think Floyd, Marquez etc)

    Sure MMA is a more functional way to fight on the street but that doesn't make it any fun to watch. At least not for me. I have tried watching certain fights when friends on my Facebook post about how exhilarating the fight last night was..10 out
    I agree that a top MMA fighter would not have much of a chance against a top boxer. But a top boxer would not have much of a chance against a top MMA fighter. There are simply too many dangers for a boxer to avoid. If they get into a clinch, the fight would be over. I have not seen many boxing fights that end before a single clinch. Put your head down, turn your back.
    Same with a UFC fighter in boxing. He will have no where near as much boxing knowledge. He will be a much sloppier boxer. Less power with bigger gloves. Not the same upper body movement a boxer needs to learn. Less ahnd speed, etc.
    Now with time, either pesron from either sport could learn the other discipline and be just as good. It all depends on the person and not the fact they trained in another sport.
    I know I will never get equal ground here as im on a boxing forum. But I have seen so many top fighters from other sports come to UFC and get found out. They only improve and stand a chance when they learn the full array of MMA.
    The fact that you think a boxer has a better chance of doing well in UFC than the other way round shows ignorance of the other sport. If you took your time and watched UFC and the range of skills you need in the Octagon to survive, you would understand that a boxers chance with just the boxing discipline would not last very long at all.
    The fact that you understood my post to say "Boxers would do better in a cage than MMA fighters would do in a ring" befuddles me...did you even read my post before quoting it?

    I said that I acknowledged MMA was a more complete fighting style. Strange how you misinterpreted that.
    My apologies. I was reading and qouting as a continuation of a series of posts from other posters that proseed this conversation. When you said..... MMA fighters don't make the switch because they would be destroyed I thought you were siding with the poster who earlier said a boxer would be able to win an MMA fight but an MMA fighter would not be able to win a boxing match.
    I am simply saying that whoever switch from one sport to the other would not stand much of a chance untill they learnt the full game of the other sport.
    At the end of the day I think it is down to the fighter and not his origonal preference in sport.
    You say an elite fighter could not be found in MMA. I would say that people like Anderson Silva and now Jhon Bones Jones are there or close to being there. They have mixed the knowledge of all fighting styles to counter any other single style that can be used in MMA.
    I would say that boxers have over all mastered the skill of boxing more than MMA fighters have mastered the skill of MMA because MMA is a relitivly new sport compared to boxing. Not to mention the money pumped into boxing which always improves the quality of opponents in a sport.

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    Default Re: Why dont MMA fighter`s turn to boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by PUGWARRIOR View Post
    Why is it that MMA fighter`s never leave the cage to box while boxers seem to gravite to cage fighting? You would think it would be the other way around seeing theres so much more money to make in boxing(at the higher levels) but im sure if anderson silva would do ok and use his name to make the big bucks. MMA seems a lot harder than boxing(i box and have never tried cage fighting) the rounds are longer and they have so much more to deal with ,wrestling and so forth.
    Go back 10 years ago and there may be some substance to this but now, I have to say "WTF"

    UFC is nothing more than glorified strikers. Chuck Ruled the LHW being nothing more than a tough SOB who could foil a take down.

    There has never a UFC fighter who could match a boxer. The most stupid question I have seen!

    Yes money is better in boxing, but pick one UFC fighter who could accomplish something in boxing?

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    Default Re: Why dont MMA fighter`s turn to boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Preme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PUGWARRIOR View Post
    Why is it that MMA fighter`s never leave the cage to box while boxers seem to gravite to cage fighting? You would think it would be the other way around seeing theres so much more money to make in boxing(at the higher levels) but im sure if anderson silva would do ok and use his name to make the big bucks. MMA seems a lot harder than boxing(i box and have never tried cage fighting) the rounds are longer and they have so much more to deal with ,wrestling and so forth.
    Go back 10 years ago and there may be some substance to this but now, I have to say "WTF"

    UFC is nothing more than glorified strikers. Chuck Ruled the LHW being nothing more than a tough SOB who could foil a take down.

    There has never a UFC fighter who could match a boxer. The most stupid question I have seen!

    Yes money is better in boxing, but pick one UFC fighter who could accomplish something in boxing?
    Pick a boxer who could accomplish something in the UFC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
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    Why is it that MMA fighter`s never leave the cage to box while boxers seem to gravite to cage fighting? You would think it would be the other way around seeing theres so much more money to make in boxing(at the higher levels) but im sure if anderson silva would do ok and use his name to make the big bucks. MMA seems a lot harder than boxing(i box and have never tried cage fighting) the rounds are longer and they have so much more to deal with ,wrestling and so forth.
    Go back 10 years ago and there may be some substance to this but now, I have to say "WTF"

    UFC is nothing more than glorified strikers. Chuck Ruled the LHW being nothing more than a tough SOB who could foil a take down.

    There has never a UFC fighter who could match a boxer. The most stupid question I have seen!

    Yes money is better in boxing, but pick one UFC fighter who could accomplish something in boxing?
    Pick a boxer who could accomplish something in the UFC.
    Vitali Klitschko.....next question

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    Default Re: Why dont MMA fighter`s turn to boxing?

    Apples and oranges. You might well ask why billiards players don't take up pro golf. I mean both sports end with a ball going in a hole so must be pretty much the same thing. While yes both are combat sports, they are both tremendously different. Many of the comments on this thread stem from entertainment value which is subjective. Boxing is a single discipline sport and is more technical in nature. MMA is a more comprehensive combat sport and requires its participants to at least be competent in many facets. Which is better? Once again depends on what you like to watch and or train in. I can think of some MMA fighters that had they spent their lives training as boxers might be championship caliber boxers and vice versa but they didn't. They chose their sport and are succesful in it. I doubt Anderson Silva cries himself to sleep at night wishing he had been a pro-boxer. The end state is two completely different sports even when just looking at the striking component alone. Boxing fans always denigrate MMA striking b/c they are looking at it through a boxing lense. It just isn't the same thing, hence why it looks very different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Preme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PUGWARRIOR View Post
    Why is it that MMA fighter`s never leave the cage to box while boxers seem to gravite to cage fighting? You would think it would be the other way around seeing theres so much more money to make in boxing(at the higher levels) but im sure if anderson silva would do ok and use his name to make the big bucks. MMA seems a lot harder than boxing(i box and have never tried cage fighting) the rounds are longer and they have so much more to deal with ,wrestling and so forth.
    Go back 10 years ago and there may be some substance to this but now, I have to say "WTF"

    UFC is nothing more than glorified strikers. Chuck Ruled the LHW being nothing more than a tough SOB who could foil a take down.

    There has never a UFC fighter who could match a boxer. The most stupid question I have seen!

    Yes money is better in boxing, but pick one UFC fighter who could accomplish something in boxing?
    Pick a boxer who could accomplish something in the UFC.
    Vitali Klitschko.....next question
    If I remember Pela Read ko Vitali in a kickbxing match if I am correct.!

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    Default Re: Why dont MMA fighter`s turn to boxing?

    Vitali klitschko.lol that clumsy frankenstein would get taken down quick and get ground and pounded easily or he gets humped out. Vitali cant do shit in mma.



    Vitali is not a good canditate..

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Preme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PUGWARRIOR View Post
    Why is it that MMA fighter`s never leave the cage to box while boxers seem to gravite to cage fighting? You would think it would be the other way around seeing theres so much more money to make in boxing(at the higher levels) but im sure if anderson silva would do ok and use his name to make the big bucks. MMA seems a lot harder than boxing(i box and have never tried cage fighting) the rounds are longer and they have so much more to deal with ,wrestling and so forth.
    Go back 10 years ago and there may be some substance to this but now, I have to say "WTF"

    UFC is nothing more than glorified strikers. Chuck Ruled the LHW being nothing more than a tough SOB who could foil a take down.

    There has never a UFC fighter who could match a boxer. The most stupid question I have seen!

    Yes money is better in boxing, but pick one UFC fighter who could accomplish something in boxing?
    Pick a boxer who could accomplish something in the UFC.
    Vitali Klitschko.....next question
    Brock gets close. Vitali pushes his head down. Brock grabs his legs and finishes him. The end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by PUGWARRIOR View Post
    Why is it that MMA fighter`s never leave the cage to box while boxers seem to gravite to cage fighting? You would think it would be the other way around seeing theres so much more money to make in boxing(at the higher levels) but im sure if anderson silva would do ok and use his name to make the big bucks. MMA seems a lot harder than boxing(i box and have never tried cage fighting) the rounds are longer and they have so much more to deal with ,wrestling and so forth.
    Go back 10 years ago and there may be some substance to this but now, I have to say "WTF"

    UFC is nothing more than glorified strikers. Chuck Ruled the LHW being nothing more than a tough SOB who could foil a take down.

    There has never a UFC fighter who could match a boxer. The most stupid question I have seen!

    Yes money is better in boxing, but pick one UFC fighter who could accomplish something in boxing?
    Pick a boxer who could accomplish something in the UFC.
    Vitali Klitschko.....next question
    Brock gets close. Vitali pushes his head down. Brock grabs his legs and finishes him. The end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by PUGWARRIOR View Post
    Why is it that MMA fighter`s never leave the cage to box while boxers seem to gravite to cage fighting? You would think it would be the other way around seeing theres so much more money to make in boxing(at the higher levels) but im sure if anderson silva would do ok and use his name to make the big bucks. MMA seems a lot harder than boxing(i box and have never tried cage fighting) the rounds are longer and they have so much more to deal with ,wrestling and so forth.
    Go back 10 years ago and there may be some substance to this but now, I have to say "WTF"

    UFC is nothing more than glorified strikers. Chuck Ruled the LHW being nothing more than a tough SOB who could foil a take down.

    There has never a UFC fighter who could match a boxer. The most stupid question I have seen!

    Yes money is better in boxing, but pick one UFC fighter who could accomplish something in boxing?
    Pick a boxer who could accomplish something in the UFC.
    Vitali Klitschko.....next question
    Brock gets close. Vitali pushes his head down. Brock grabs his legs and finishes him. The end.
    Because Brock does so well with punchers You MIGHT want to re-think that answer. Vitali was a WORLD CHAMPION Kickboxer...it's not like he doesn't know how to keep people off of him

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    Default Re: Why dont MMA fighter`s turn to boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Preme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PUGWARRIOR View Post
    Why is it that MMA fighter`s never leave the cage to box while boxers seem to gravite to cage fighting? You would think it would be the other way around seeing theres so much more money to make in boxing(at the higher levels) but im sure if anderson silva would do ok and use his name to make the big bucks. MMA seems a lot harder than boxing(i box and have never tried cage fighting) the rounds are longer and they have so much more to deal with ,wrestling and so forth.
    Go back 10 years ago and there may be some substance to this but now, I have to say "WTF"

    UFC is nothing more than glorified strikers. Chuck Ruled the LHW being nothing more than a tough SOB who could foil a take down.

    There has never a UFC fighter who could match a boxer. The most stupid question I have seen!

    Yes money is better in boxing, but pick one UFC fighter who could accomplish something in boxing?
    Wow...the most stupid question you`ve ever seen ? hahahaha. Id say if anything the striking in MMA is way better now than 10 years ago...of the cage fighters now in mma id say BJ Penn would make the best transition...Freddie Roach has already stated the BJ has the best boxing in MMA and he was being trained by Mayweather sr recently who was also very impressed with his boxing skills.
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