Tavoris Cloud vs. Bernard Hopkins - Saturday night chat/fight thread

[Mars_ax]

TBH, I don't expect Hop-Cloud to be worth a fuck, but hey it's a Championship fight, so let's check it out. (just buy good beer)

March 9
At New York (HBO): Tavoris Cloud vs. Bernard Hopkins, 12 rounds, for Cloud's IBF light heavyweight title; Keith Thurman vs. Jan Zaveck, 12 rounds, WBO welterweight eliminator; Frank Galarza vs. TBA, 6 rounds, junior middleweights; Mike Perez vs. Lonnie Smith, 10 rounds, lightweights.

Also Saturday night (which may be better then the Hop-Cloud fight) is a Championship fight on HBO Latino. I don't care what language it's in as long as it's a good fight.

At Costa Mesa, Calif. (HBO Latino): Juan Carlos Salgado vs. Argenis Mendez, rematch, 12 rounds, for Salgado's IBF junior lightweight title; Javier Molina vs. Joseph Elegele, 8 rounds, welterweights; Oscar Molina vs. TBA, 4 rounds, welterweights.

[CFH]

Cloud by TKO. Hopkins is old and I don't think his 90 year old chin can stand up to Cloud's power.

[IamInuit]

I think if Hop has anything left this could look like the Pavlik fight. If there is one guy Hop can still beat in the division its Cloud. You don't get much more one dimensional then he is.

[Galaxy]

I think if Hop has anything left this could look like the Pavlik fight. If there is one guy Hop can still beat in the division its Cloud. You don't get much more one dimensional then he is.

I'm thinking the same thing, it all really depends on where Hopkins is at these days...

[Galaxy]

I hope Mendez avenges the bad decision given to him last time these 2 met

[killersheep]

I don't think Hopkins has the reflexes to overcome Cloud's power at this point. Cloud is one-dimensional yes, but it's the only dimension he needs in this fight. I am completely writing B-hop off and will gladly eat crow if I'm wrong.

[Spicoli]

I got Hopkins..still. Hopkins wrote and mastered the blueprint Campillo used to box the ears off of Cloud years ago. A terrible style for Cloud to come back to and he'll go in thinking outloud and looking to implement 'changes' he has no clue of. And if he tries to blitz in and over Hopkins he'll be even more screwed. Hopkins tko 11 or unam. dec.

[Hulk]

I got Hopkins..still. Hopkins wrote and mastered the blueprint Campillo used to box the ears off of Cloud years ago. A terrible style for Cloud to come back to and he'll go in thinking outloud and looking to implement 'changes' he has no clue of. And if he tries to blitz in and over Hopkins he'll be even more screwed. Hopkins tko 11 or unam. dec.

That is a bold prediction as Hopkins hasn't stopped anyone in years and years.

I am a long time B-hop fan and will pick him again. However, I am worried he may finally be getn old. Cloud does bring the heat early and is a powerhouse.

The early rounds will be nerve racking. After that, if Hopkins can get into a groove then it could be another Bernard boxing clinic.

[Mars_ax]

I got Hopkins..still. Hopkins wrote and mastered the blueprint Campillo used to box the ears off of Cloud years ago. A terrible style for Cloud to come back to and he'll go in thinking outloud and looking to implement 'changes' he has no clue of. And if he tries to blitz in and over Hopkins he'll be even more screwed. Hopkins tko 11 or unam. dec.

I tend to agree with this, but Hop was looking really old in the rematch with Dawson, so i'll just say that Cloud wins a stinky, boring UD.

[Mars_ax]

I think if Hop has anything left this could look like the Pavlik fight. If there is one guy Hop can still beat in the division its Cloud. You don't get much more one dimensional then he is.

You will eat many Crow with this prediction grasshopper..

[IamInuit]

I think if Hop has anything left this could look like the Pavlik fight. If there is one guy Hop can still beat in the division its Cloud. You don't get much more one dimensional then he is.

You will eat many Crow with this prediction grasshopper..

I prefaced that prediction my friend

For all those bringing up sad Chad,its not hard to look worse then you are against him. If I was a betting man I'd throw a few quid on the old technician. Cloud is a one dimensional plodder that cant move above the waist let alone get his dome out of the way of a counter. I have no dog in the fight but will cheer for the old underdog.

[Mars_ax]

I think if Hop has anything left this could look like the Pavlik fight. If there is one guy Hop can still beat in the division its Cloud. You don't get much more one dimensional then he is.

You will eat many Crow with this prediction grasshopper..

I prefaced that prediction my friend

For all those bringing up sad Chad,its not hard to look worse then you are against him. If I was a betting man I'd throw a few quid on the old technician. Cloud is a one dimensional plodder that cant move above the waist let alone get his dome out of the way of a counter. I have no dog in the fight but will cheer for the old underdog.

Hop used to be one of my favorite fighters, in his younger days, "X" was one of the best body punchers i've ever seen, you see flashes of this when he knocked out DeLaHoya with one. These days, Hop is just a shell of his former self, much like Roy Jones, who can't say no to another nice payday, that's why both these pugs are still fighting = money, it sure as fuck ain't because they love boxing.

Yes, Bernard we like you, we really, really like you, you're a legend, now get the fuck out of our faces and retire.

[Tam Seddon]

I loved B hops rant at the press conference, he's a rare breed of fighter and I wish him all of the best on Saturday. I would love him to put in a Pavlik type performance and I wouldn't be surprised if he does. I am looking forward to the fight and I hope he can win.

[Dia bando]

Cloud is not the best, will Hopkins old man him holding hitting, the occasional right hand, Hopkins
may win ugly, that's his style he fights ugly.

[Beanflicker]

I'll take Cloud by KO/TKO round 9.

But if the Ageless Wonder can pull another virtuoso performance out of his ass... it'd be great!